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Post by AdidasNG72 on Mar 14, 2015 5:41:32 GMT -5
I was watching a Noel interview from the other day and he said when he was in Oasis he felt the need to write "Stadium rock" I'd assume that meant big choruses etc. CY is a more swirly melodic album, it doesn't need it. I'd say theres a few powerful choruses on NGHFB like EOTR and Dream On etc. The funny thing is people would be saying he's not "moving on" if he was still writing Stadium rock with giant choruses. I think we need something more refrained and though out now from him which CY seems to be starting, it's quite a mature and thought out release. I do get the whole `Noel isn't moving on' thing if his new album was full of tracks like Lock all the Doors, and that he hasn't matured, and stuck in the past writing stadium rock numbers.
But unfortunately this is kind of stuff I loved about Noel's songwriting. It's why I became a huge Oasis fan, and its ultimately what I am still looking for, and still expect, when I hear something from the man who once wrote huge numbers like Rock n Roll Star, Live Forever, Some Might Say, Stand By Me and DYKWIM.
I don't care if the album would get criticised, if Noel got criticised for writing such songs. Hell, he gets criticised even now for trying to move away, mature and depart from his past, and write songs that sound very different from Oasis, so what's the difference? He'll be slated regardless.
At least he would be writing stuff which would unite the fans together again, and would be a record the public would love, even if the critics didn't, instead of writing drab, offbeat tracks that are trying desperately to be different from what he has done before. It's about time Noel stopped trying to depart from where he came from, and go back to what he's best at. I get the impression there is still a rock star inside Noel trying to get out, and deep down he would still prefer to write songs like Supersonic and Cigarettes & Alcohol, even if it sounded old and dated, but he is now too afraid to anymore, instead trying desperately to please the critics, and prove that he has matured as a songwriter, which in many respects he has. It's just that I don't like what he has matured into.
I get the impression many die-hard fans are trying to like the new album because it's Noel Gallagher, and cannot bring themselves round to the idea that he could be losing it, so will accept anything he does, even if its not a patch on the stuff he was once famous for.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Mar 15, 2015 16:37:10 GMT -5
I'm actually in the middle of doing a huge U turn here.....the album is really starting to grow on me as a whole.
I'll review it again after a few more listens, which could be a bit different to my earlier posts above...
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 15, 2015 16:49:47 GMT -5
I'm actually in the middle of doing a huge U turn here.....the album is really starting to grow on me as a whole. I'll review it again after a few more listens, which could be a bit different to my earlier posts above... I hated what Oasis had become after around HC onwards. Apart from a few songs, they were boring and very much dying. NGHFB is edging slowly into new Noel territory, it's not a massive change but I think it's Noels music being reborn. There's something new and special just now about the concerts and music.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 15, 2015 16:50:46 GMT -5
Guys you're telling me Riverman and You Know We Can't Go Back have not a big chorus?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 15, 2015 16:55:02 GMT -5
Guys you're telling me Riverman and You Know We Can't Go Back have not a big chorus? When I think of a BIG chorus I think of Don't Look Back In Anger, and neither of those have such an explosive chorus.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 15, 2015 17:00:44 GMT -5
Guys you're telling me Riverman and You Know We Can't Go Back have not a big chorus? When I think of a BIG chorus I think of Don't Look Back In Anger, and neither of those have such an explosive chorus. No song in the world does tbh But those two are choruses you want to sing along to,especially YKWCGB
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 15, 2015 17:10:45 GMT -5
Guys you're telling me Riverman and You Know We Can't Go Back have not a big chorus? When I think of a BIG chorus I think of Don't Look Back In Anger, and neither of those have such an explosive chorus. Absurd to bring up DLBIAs chorus! That's like saying Arctic Monkeys aren't a good band because they aren't the Beatles!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 15, 2015 17:15:47 GMT -5
When I think of a BIG chorus I think of Don't Look Back In Anger, and neither of those have such an explosive chorus. No song in the world does tbh But those two are choruses you want to sing along to,especially YKWCGB True. I believe it was once voted for as Most Explosive Chorus ever or something Riverman doesn't really (to me), but YKWCGB does! That's such an enthusiastic song.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 15, 2015 17:17:18 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand the definition of a big chorus though When is a chorus big? When you want to sing along with it? I always sing along with basically everything.
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Post by Manualex on Mar 15, 2015 17:20:19 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand the definition of a big chorus though When is a chorus big? When you want to sing along with it? I always sing along with basically everything. even "your ass belongs to me now"?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 15, 2015 17:20:26 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand the definition of a big chorus though When is a chorus big? When you want to sing along with it? I always sing along with basically everything. I do too But when you can't help but sing along to it,and it does get struck in your brain after just a couple of listens,that's a big chorus I think
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 15, 2015 17:47:22 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand the definition of a big chorus though When is a chorus big? When you want to sing along with it? I always sing along with basically everything. even "your ass belongs to me now"? Well, before I realized those were the lyrics, I was mumbling along to it yeah
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 15, 2015 23:41:34 GMT -5
The Mexican has grown on me big time. Love the guitar solo in the middle. Still think the crack line is silly but whatever.
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Post by carlober on Mar 16, 2015 4:08:07 GMT -5
I've always thought that The Mexican was the weakest song on the album, but since I've heard it live in Milan I'm not so sure about that. Sure, the lyrics are pretty bad but live it's a MONSTER.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 16, 2015 13:05:19 GMT -5
This is an absoultely stunning album, I've only been a fan since DBTT but this is by far the best album thats come from either Gallagher in the last 10 years. Riverman 8/10 In the Heat of the Moment 8/10 The Girl with X-Ray Eyes 8/10 Lock All the Doors 8.5/10 The Dying of the Light 9/10 The Right Stuff 8/10 While the Song Remains the Same 8.5/10 The Mexican 7.5/10 You Know We Can't Go Back 8/10 Ballad of the Mighty I 9/10
Leave My Guitar Alone 7.5/10 Do The Damage 8/10 Revolution Song 8/10 Freaky Teeth 8.5/10 ITHOTM Remix 6.5/10 (Should have just used Alone On The Rope)
Overall a VERY solid 8/10 from me, I just hope Noel keeps this up and hopefully treats us to another album in a year or two, not three or four.
PS more b-sides please.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 16, 2015 13:37:33 GMT -5
This is an absoultely stunning album, I've only been a fan since DBTT but this is by far the best album thats come from either Gallagher in the last 10 years. Riverman 8/10 In the Heat of the Moment 8/10 The Girl with X-Ray Eyes 8/10 Lock All the Doors 8.5/10 The Dying of the Light 9/10 The Right Stuff 8/10 While the Song Remains the Same 8.5/10 The Mexican 7.5/10 You Know We Can't Go Back 8/10 Ballad of the Mighty I 9/10 Leave My Guitar Alone 7.5/10 Do The Damage 8/10 Revolution Song 8/10 Freaky Teeth 8.5/10 ITHOTM Remix 6.5/10 ( Should have just used Alone On The Rope) Overall a VERY solid 8/10 from me, I just hope Noel keeps this up and hopefully treats us to another album in a year or two, not three or four. PS more b-sides please. eh?
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 16, 2015 13:37:55 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand the definition of a big chorus though When is a chorus big? When you want to sing along with it? I always sing along with basically everything. The big chorus is when the song from the very beginning speaks to you: hi, i have big chorus, nevermind the verse, wait a second, the verse is nothing,, wait for the chorus, lalalalalala, here it comes, ok are you ready ? 1, 2, 3 , HERE IT IS LISTEN TO THAT CHORUS BITCH !
And you go, fuckin' hell what a chorus this song has.
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 16, 2015 13:48:18 GMT -5
This is an absoultely stunning album, I've only been a fan since DBTT but this is by far the best album thats come from either Gallagher in the last 10 years. Riverman 8/10 In the Heat of the Moment 8/10 The Girl with X-Ray Eyes 8/10 Lock All the Doors 8.5/10 The Dying of the Light 9/10 The Right Stuff 8/10 While the Song Remains the Same 8.5/10 The Mexican 7.5/10 You Know We Can't Go Back 8/10 Ballad of the Mighty I 9/10 Leave My Guitar Alone 7.5/10 Do The Damage 8/10 Revolution Song 8/10 Freaky Teeth 8.5/10 ITHOTM Remix 6.5/10 (Should have just used Alone On The Rope) Overall a VERY solid 8/10 from me, I just hope Noel keeps this up and hopefully treats us to another album in a year or two, not three or four. PS more b-sides please. I keep on saying it, but it's touching WTSMG in greatness. DM, WTSMG then CY (just), it really is that good. Even after a month of listening to it.
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Post by allingoodtime on Mar 16, 2015 14:01:08 GMT -5
CY is nowhere near WTSMG or DM..
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 16, 2015 14:04:44 GMT -5
Feeling a little bored with it already, but there is nevertheless, some really great stuff on it... I fully expect to still be listening to the likes of The Dying Of The Light and While The Song Remains The Same in ten years time.
In my opinion... Riverman 9/10 In The Heat Of The Moment 8/10 The Girl With X-Ray Eyes 6/10 Lock All Doors 5/10 The Dying Of The Light 9/10 The Right Stuff 8/10 While The Song Remains The Same 9/10 (great little run of songs there...) The Mexican 6/10 You Know We Can't Go Back 5/10 The Ballad Of The Mighty I 8/10
As I say, some smashing tunes, but for a ten track album penned by someone as good as Noel is, just like with HFB, there is an awful lot of filler for my liking. At least four tunes, only a few weeks after it came out, that I've already branded 'mediocre' and plan to seldom listen to from now on. Therefore, the fact that it IS my favourite Gallagher album since Be Here Now, does make me a little bit sad, I've got to say.
Overall, I'd give it a 7/10.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 16, 2015 14:05:11 GMT -5
CY is nowhere near WTSMG or DM..
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 16, 2015 14:09:38 GMT -5
CY is nowhere near WTSMG or DM.. Indeed.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 16, 2015 14:11:06 GMT -5
CY is nowhere near WTSMG or DM.. Nothing is TBH
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 16, 2015 14:45:52 GMT -5
CY is nowhere near WTSMG or DM.. Nothing is TBH I dunno, I think there's a few.
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 16, 2015 14:48:21 GMT -5
I dunno, I think there's a few. The Joshua Tree.
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