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Post by spud on May 11, 2015 14:43:19 GMT -5
I genuinely thought The Right Stuff and The Mexican were the best songs on the album before I even knew about this AA involvement. Says a lot.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 14:48:59 GMT -5
Noel does have a habit of playing it safe unfortunately. If I could give him some advice?
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Post by Manualex on May 11, 2015 15:01:21 GMT -5
I genuinely thought The Right Stuff and The Mexican were the best songs on the album before I even knew about this AA involvement. Says a lot. The right stuff, yeah. The Mexican? Nah.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 15:10:17 GMT -5
Does he really think The Mexican is "far out" ? Really... As for the rest, i suppose, if true, kinda sad yeah. But is it actually true ? Seems like he thinks he's more than a producer when in fact, what he describes kinda is... Seems like it's, as he describes, a matter of point of view about who comes up with what. The description he gives makes me want to hear it, but the way he shits on "pop" music Noel Gallagher makes is kinda weird too. A beautiful tune is a beautiful tune, psychedelic or just plain acoustic. As far as we know, Noel can write some (and sometimes steal bits), this guy cant. To be honest, I would probably describe more songs by Future Sound of London/Amorphous Androgynous as beautiful than I would with Oasis (just my opinion though...)
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 11, 2015 15:26:15 GMT -5
Does he really think The Mexican is "far out" ? Really... As for the rest, i suppose, if true, kinda sad yeah. But is it actually true ? Seems like he thinks he's more than a producer when in fact, what he describes kinda is... Seems like it's, as he describes, a matter of point of view about who comes up with what. The description he gives makes me want to hear it, but the way he shits on "pop" music Noel Gallagher makes is kinda weird too. A beautiful tune is a beautiful tune, psychedelic or just plain acoustic. As far as we know, Noel can write some (and sometimes steal bits), this guy cant. Love songs with no depth
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Post by eleysium on May 11, 2015 21:01:30 GMT -5
Didn't Noel mention an album of remixes recently for CY?
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2015 1:43:41 GMT -5
Didn't Noel mention an album of remixes recently for CY? He mentioned an EP and Massive Attack were one of the artists in the frame to do a remix. It's news that the AA were working on CY remixes.
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Post by andymorris on May 12, 2015 2:23:28 GMT -5
To be honest, I would probably describe more songs by Future Sound of London/Amorphous Androgynous as beautiful than I would with Oasis (just my opinion though...) not my cup of tea, but i get it. Beautiful can be different things : to me, a beautiful tune by Oasis is Half the World Away. It's beautiful in that it expresses a feeling, something you can relate to. This is ambient music to me, doesn't make me feel anything. But i can understand why people like it.
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Post by andymorris on May 12, 2015 2:25:02 GMT -5
I don't think The Mexican is that far out for Noel actually. I mean, what's so far out about it? I dont even think the Right Stuff is far out tbh.
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2015 5:23:31 GMT -5
“Supersonic was the first thing I ever recorded and The Right Stuff is the last thing I recorded, and I like that. The journey in between has been f**king amazing as well. My songwriting is hopefully still going somewhere.” - Noely (y'all know me, the same old) G
“The Right Stuff, although it’s as far removed from Supersonic as you’re ever gonna get, it still sounds like me to me." - Noely (hail to the chief) G
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 12, 2015 8:42:25 GMT -5
Well he was right about that. It's not anything like Supersonic but it still sounds like him.
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Post by andymorris on May 12, 2015 8:54:21 GMT -5
Well he was right about that. It's not anything like Supersonic but it still sounds like him... ... And the AA apparently. I'd like a lawsuit to be honest, to be perfectly clear about the situation. I once gave a demo tape to Noel, he never stole anything from our band, too bad, i wish...
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2015 9:11:31 GMT -5
Well he was right about that. It's not anything like Supersonic but it still sounds like him. It sounds suspiciously like the AA too.
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2015 9:12:57 GMT -5
Well he was right about that. It's not anything like Supersonic but it still sounds like him... ... And the AA apparently. I'd like a lawsuit to be honest, to be perfectly clear about the situation. I once gave a demo tape to Noel, he never stole anything from our band, too bad, i wish... Your band clearly didn't have enough backwards sitar or orgasm samples.
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Post by andymorris on May 12, 2015 10:25:08 GMT -5
... And the AA apparently. I'd like a lawsuit to be honest, to be perfectly clear about the situation. I once gave a demo tape to Noel, he never stole anything from our band, too bad, i wish... Your band clearly didn't have enough backwards sitar or orgasm samples. hehe yeah. Well we were ripping off Oasis back then, that's how you begin in music right, by stealing your heroes... but the melodies were ok. There's still hope for NGHFB 3. I mean this time he wont be able to "borrow" from the AA. he's gonna have to dig in the vault
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Post by matt on May 12, 2015 11:20:06 GMT -5
A comment in that Quietus article says 'I wish Noel would pull his head out of his arse and expand production wise' Couldn't agree more. He's like the Mourinho of music at the moment - very talented and successful, but it's all getting rather stale and boring. You appreciate it, but it will never catch your imagination.
Another comment quite pertinent is that some thought Dig Out Your Soul was 'a trip too far'. Again, I totally agree - copying 1960s studio trickery from The Beatles isn't actually experimental. In fact, at best, it's so unoriginal to the point of mind numbingly dull (my personal opinion of the album), and at it's worst, its downright cringeworthy. I wouldn't take much heed of Noel and experimentation if I believed he couldn't do it, but it's obvious with past collaborations and instrumentals that he obviously does have the talent. So why he doesn't utilise it when we start to hear the same old songs time and time again is beyond me.
If The Beatles were in their prime today, they wouldn't be using 1960s recording equipment or try to capture a 60s sound - they would still want to be the revolutionary trend setters like they were in the 60s. Perhaps Noel AND Liam should think about that for a moment.
At this stage in Noel's career, it's better to be ambitious and fail rather than fail to be ambitious.
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2015 17:51:48 GMT -5
Gaz on how these recent articles came about:
Hi all - thanks for comments and support ! I Posted this link (to the Quietus piece) on the move yesterday and didn't have time to say something about its context ( which many of your comments highlight ) -most notably that I knew nothing about it - like the Guardian piece it's an offcut of another interview done for another magazine ( this time DJ magazine where I was discussing only PAPUA New Guinea NOT Noel ) . I had no idea the journalist worked for other publications or that he would take the informal conversation about Noel at the end and edit it into a separate article for another magazine ! So no not exactly me sitting down and focussing on the full story with someone .The Guardian piece was extracted from an interview with PROG magazine ' Noel is antithesis of what we write about and what our readership want to read about ' made me chuckle and I liked the journalist so I let my guard down and we chatted about Noel for a while me NOT knowing he worked for the Guardian - I never knew this kinda journalism existed 'offcuts ' for different magazines ! So YEH these opportunistic journalism moments are all good 'fire and smoke 'stuff at creating boxing ring mentality ME vs NOEL and OASIS fans vs dwindling AA fans LOL but still really leave me cold cos missing the heart of the matter somewhat ..... Shame it's propogating like this but I ain't in control of it that's for sure .... So as I say ' gotta sausage roll with it '
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Post by Zorro On Donuts on May 12, 2015 19:01:19 GMT -5
I'm all for Noel trying some new stuff, but they would have ruined all his great songs.
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Post by Zorro On Donuts on May 12, 2015 19:06:00 GMT -5
This is all getting weird. If the AA could just for once, in simple words, describe in a chronologic way how the recording process went along and why exactly they think it would have been groundbreaking. I'm really interested in how the songs developed, sounded and were arranged. How should we as fans comprehend their position and why Noel abandoned it, if we have no idea what the album was like. They should just leak it. There, I said it. Hope we get to see the video they've recorded of the interview. I really can't imagine how groundbreaking it would have all been. We had demos of many of the songs that existed long before AA were in the picture. Noel had it all figured out.
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 12, 2015 19:15:59 GMT -5
I can't believe this is all still being discussed.
Thanks.
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Post by andymorris on May 13, 2015 4:50:47 GMT -5
Gaz on how these recent articles came about: Hi all - thanks for comments and support ! I Posted this link (to the Quietus piece) on the move yesterday and didn't have time to say something about its context ( which many of your comments highlight ) -most notably that I knew nothing about it - like the Guardian piece it's an offcut of another interview done for another magazine ( this time DJ magazine where I was discussing only PAPUA New Guinea NOT Noel ) . I had no idea the journalist worked for other publications or that he would take the informal conversation about Noel at the end and edit it into a separate article for another magazine ! So no not exactly me sitting down and focussing on the full story with someone .The Guardian piece was extracted from an interview with PROG magazine ' Noel is antithesis of what we write about and what our readership want to read about ' made me chuckle and I liked the journalist so I let my guard down and we chatted about Noel for a while me NOT knowing he worked for the Guardian - I never knew this kinda journalism existed 'offcuts ' for different magazines ! So YEH these opportunistic journalism moments are all good 'fire and smoke 'stuff at creating boxing ring mentality ME vs NOEL and OASIS fans vs dwindling AA fans LOL but still really leave me cold cos missing the heart of the matter somewhat ..... Shame it's propogating like this but I ain't in control of it that's for sure .... So as I say ' gotta sausage roll with it ' Is the guy trying to back down from his angry comments ? I mean, the press is evil comment is getting old now, he's been in the business for a long time. He should know. EVERYBODY knows.
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Post by andymorris on May 13, 2015 4:52:49 GMT -5
At this stage in Noel's career, it's better to be ambitious and fail rather than fail to be ambitious. I agree, but in those days, the music industry being what it is, keeping the fanbase happy is priority #1. Noel could easily do both, and that's what he tried to do apparently. Shame he couldn't release it as double album : same tracklisting, side 1 NGHFB and side 2 AA... oh well.. I guess Marcus "Dad" Russell got the final word.
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Post by Manualex on May 13, 2015 9:23:51 GMT -5
Gaz on how these recent articles came about: Hi all - thanks for comments and support ! I Posted this link (to the Quietus piece) on the move yesterday and didn't have time to say something about its context ( which many of your comments highlight ) -most notably that I knew nothing about it - like the Guardian piece it's an offcut of another interview done for another magazine ( this time DJ magazine where I was discussing only PAPUA New Guinea NOT Noel ) . I had no idea the journalist worked for other publications or that he would take the informal conversation about Noel at the end and edit it into a separate article for another magazine ! So no not exactly me sitting down and focussing on the full story with someone .The Guardian piece was extracted from an interview with PROG magazine ' Noel is antithesis of what we write about and what our readership want to read about ' made me chuckle and I liked the journalist so I let my guard down and we chatted about Noel for a while me NOT knowing he worked for the Guardian - I never knew this kinda journalism existed 'offcuts ' for different magazines ! So YEH these opportunistic journalism moments are all good 'fire and smoke 'stuff at creating boxing ring mentality ME vs NOEL and OASIS fans vs dwindling AA fans LOL but still really leave me cold cos missing the heart of the matter somewhat ..... Shame it's propogating like this but I ain't in control of it that's for sure .... So as I say ' gotta sausage roll with it ' Is the guy trying to back down from his angry comments ? I mean, the press is evil comment is getting old now, he's been in the business for a long time. He should know. EVERYBODY knows. But, no one saying nothing...
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Post by mossy on May 13, 2015 10:56:03 GMT -5
I can't believe this is all still being discussed. Thanks. Well it sure beats discussing Noel's instagram posts...
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Post by Manualex on May 13, 2015 11:13:45 GMT -5
I can't believe this is all still being discussed. Thanks. Well it sure beats discussing Noel's instagram posts... Or Tom Brady's shit.
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