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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Dec 29, 2014 13:56:54 GMT -5
I just get that sense. Personally, I like NGHFB's but it's lacking in the energy that Liam would provide (an aspect that is pretty much accepted on this forum). I normally would be okay with this prospect - I like Noel's song writing, and we're just going to get the same Noel songs as albums past. And for this it will get the same meddling reviews as his 2011 effort, NGHFB. From what we've heard, it's even hitting the same pattern: In The Heat Of The Moment (which now bores the fuck out of me, mind), is the AKA...What A Life, and Dying of the Light is the If I Had A Gun, and to some extent Lock the Box Chorus is the Record Machine, and Revolution Song the Stop The Clocks (albeit left for the bonus tracks). Biggest shame of Noel's solo career is that he's hitting peak song-writing form again, but it's not under the Oasis moniker with the Oasis members. NGHFB and CY with Liam's vocals and charisma, along with Gem's guitar work would have propelled Oasis fully out of the dark ages, fully completing what both DBTT and DOYS threatened to do with their glimpses of brilliance. I like Noel's songs and consequential albums. He always performs consistently good and puts on a show in his own way. But the magic spark is missing, and that's where the indifference comes from. For me "Do The damage" alone has Moore energy than the whole hfb album. |
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Post by Praetorian on Dec 29, 2014 15:34:44 GMT -5
Aren't most people saying CY is a bit more "dancy" than NGHFB?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 29, 2014 15:38:55 GMT -5
It will be so strange to have Revolution Song...finally in a finished form. I think the Oasis demo is pretty good on its own. Do we know for a fact that it'll be different than the unreleased version? Knowing Noel, he'll just add a choir and call it quits. Cough, Record Machine. It also bothers me that it's not on the album proper, but just a bonus track, kind of cementing the notion that it'll always be a lost track, never getting the proper release if deserved. |
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Post by LlAM on Dec 29, 2014 15:55:53 GMT -5
It will be so strange to have Revolution Song...finally in a finished form. I think the Oasis demo is pretty good on its own. Do we know for a fact bat it'll be different than the unreleased version? Knowing Noel, he'll just add a choir and call it quits. Cough, Record Machine. It also bothers me that it's not on the album proper, but just a bonus track, kind of cementing the notion that it'll always be a lost track, never getting the proper release if deserved. I'm confused. You want something different from Noel and with more energy, you reckon Revolution Song will be just like the demo... BUT YET YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE ON THE ALBUM!? FFS make your mind up woman! |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 29, 2014 15:58:15 GMT -5
It will be so strange to have Revolution Song...finally in a finished form. I think the Oasis demo is pretty good on its own. Do we know for a fact bat it'll be different than the unreleased version? Knowing Noel, he'll just add a choir and call it quits. Cough, Record Machine. It also bothers me that it's not on the album proper, but just a bonus track, kind of cementing the notion that it'll always be a lost track, never getting the proper release if deserved. I'll be disappointed if that's the case. I really hope he does something more with it. But I see what you mean, it sounds completed already, there's not much more he can do with it. Maybe he figured it's good enough to be released officially, but everyone already knows about it, and have for years so it wouldn't be worthy of being on the album. Did he learn his lesson with Record Machine, perhaps? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 29, 2014 16:10:37 GMT -5
^
That's what I think. Maybe he feels as if he's bullshitting people if it would appear as a proper albumtrack.
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Post by Manualex on Dec 29, 2014 17:40:26 GMT -5
Do we know for a fact bat it'll be different than the unreleased version? Knowing Noel, he'll just add a choir and call it quits. Cough, Record Machine. It also bothers me that it's not on the album proper, but just a bonus track, kind of cementing the notion that it'll always be a lost track, never getting the proper release if deserved. I'll be disappointed if that's the case. I really hope he does something more with it. But I see what you mean, it sounds completed already, there's not much more he can do with it. Maybe he figured it's good enough to be released officially, but everyone already knows about it, and have for years so it wouldn't be worthy of being on the album. Did he learn his lesson with Record Machine, perhaps? wasnt the choir on tender one of the reasons of why revolution song wasnt released? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 29, 2014 17:41:56 GMT -5
The choir on Tender? Wha? Tender as in Tender by Blur?
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Post by Manualex on Dec 29, 2014 17:50:41 GMT -5
The choir on Tender? Wha? Tender as in Tender by Blur? Yes Noel said something like that on 2001. |
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Post by LlAM on Dec 29, 2014 17:57:09 GMT -5
The choir on Tender? Wha? Tender as in Tender by Blur? Yes Noel said something like that on 2001. "We did have one track which didn't go on called 'Revolution Song'. It was demoed two years ago and it's on out-and-out gospel song, but not in the sense that 'I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For' by U2 is a gospel song. I think it's a really, really good song. We were going to have the full-on gospel choir singing it until f***ing Blur put out 'Tender' and then we went, 'F***ing bastards!' That'll have to wait for the next one. They always nick our ideas!" |
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Post by mossy on Dec 29, 2014 18:03:31 GMT -5
It will be so strange to have Revolution Song...finally in a finished form. I think the Oasis demo is pretty good on its own. Do we know for a fact bat it'll be different than the unreleased version? Knowing Noel, he'll just add a choir and call it quits. Cough, Record Machine. It also bothers me that it's not on the album proper, but just a bonus track, kind of cementing the notion that it'll always be a lost track, never getting the proper release if deserved. You forgot remove the Bassline and replace it with a worse one... |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 29, 2014 18:04:25 GMT -5
I just get that sense. Personally, I like NGHFB's but it's lacking in the energy that Liam would provide (an aspect that is pretty much accepted on this forum). I normally would be okay with this prospect - I like Noel's song writing, and we're just going to get the same Noel songs as albums past. And for this it will get the same meddling reviews as his 2011 effort, NGHFB. From what we've heard, it's even hitting the same pattern: In The Heat Of The Moment (which now bores the fuck out of me, mind), is the AKA...What A Life, and Dying of the Light is the If I Had A Gun, and to some extent Lock the Box Chorus is the Record Machine, and Revolution Song the Stop The Clocks (albeit left for the bonus tracks). Biggest shame of Noel's solo career is that he's hitting peak song-writing form again, but it's not under the Oasis moniker with the Oasis members. NGHFB and CY with Liam's vocals and charisma, along with Gem's guitar work would have propelled Oasis fully out of the dark ages, fully completing what both DBTT and DOYS threatened to do with their glimpses of brilliance. I like Noel's songs and consequential albums. He always performs consistently good and puts on a show in his own way. But the magic spark is missing, and that's where the indifference comes from. For me "Do The damage" alone has Moore energy than the whole hfb album. Maybe so, but that tune's pretty lacklustre to say the least (imo) |
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Post by mossy on Dec 29, 2014 18:14:10 GMT -5
I've definitely listened to DTD more than ITHOTM. Love it, so saxy.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 29, 2014 18:15:30 GMT -5
Do we know for a fact bat it'll be different than the unreleased version? Knowing Noel, he'll just add a choir and call it quits. Cough, Record Machine. It also bothers me that it's not on the album proper, but just a bonus track, kind of cementing the notion that it'll always be a lost track, never getting the proper release if deserved. You forgot remove the Bassline and replace it with a worse one... Is there even a bassline in it? It doesn't have a bite at all, that song. |
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Post by mossy on Dec 29, 2014 18:17:49 GMT -5
You forgot remove the Bassline and replace it with a worse one... Is there even a bassline in it? It doesn't have a bite at all, that song. Go back and listen to the demo, it has a much more prominent McCartney style bass line. I'm all about that bass. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 29, 2014 18:20:25 GMT -5
I'll be disappointed if that's the case. I really hope he does something more with it. But I see what you mean, it sounds completed already, there's not much more he can do with it. Maybe he figured it's good enough to be released officially, but everyone already knows about it, and have for years so it wouldn't be worthy of being on the album. Did he learn his lesson with Record Machine, perhaps? wasnt the choir on tender one of the reasons of why revolution song wasnt released? I learned something new today. Honestly though, that's seems to be a pretty weak reason to not kick out a song. |
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Post by mossy on Dec 29, 2014 18:29:26 GMT -5
wasnt the choir on tender one of the reasons of why revolution song wasnt released? I learned something new today. Honestly though, that's seems to be a pretty weak reason to not kick out a song. Such a shame Blur didn't release a nursery rhyme about trampolines... |
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Post by matt on Dec 29, 2014 19:07:18 GMT -5
Only heard it in demo format, but is it me, or does Revolution Song lack something?
I really love that verse melody, but I can't quite put my finger on what is wrong with it. Perhaps a bit slow, chorus doesn't 'touch the sky' so to speak, dull production (as expected from a demo)?
Dunno, but I think Noel is right in releasing it as a bonus track.
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Post by Gas Panic on Dec 29, 2014 19:20:14 GMT -5
I really hope Revolution Song is radically different from the 1999 demo, it has been 15 years after all.
2 ancient oasis demos on one new NG album would be a bit much I think, I'm expecting big things from Lock all the Doors.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 29, 2014 19:37:28 GMT -5
Is there even a bassline in it? It doesn't have a bite at all, that song. Go back and listen to the demo, it has a much more prominent McCartney style bass line. I'm all about that bass. I was talking about the album version. |
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Post by mossy on Dec 29, 2014 19:45:35 GMT -5
I really hope Revolution Song is radically different from the 1999 demo, it has been 15 years after all. 2 ancient oasis demos on one new NG album would be a bit much I think, I'm expecting big things from Lock all the Doors. I doubt it'll be radically different but Noel did say he'd "finished it off" so something will have been added/changed. NME article, Feb 2012: |
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Post by carlober on Dec 30, 2014 4:38:00 GMT -5
Only heard it in demo format, but is it me, or does Revolution Song lack something? I really love that verse melody, but I can't quite put my finger on what is wrong with it. Perhaps a bit slow, chorus doesn't 'touch the sky' so to speak, dull production (as expected from a demo)? Dunno, but I think Noel is right in releasing it as a bonus track. I agree. I've always seen Revolution Song as a little brother to One Way Road or Carry Us All (which are from the same era), but both of them are far superior to RS IMHO. It just doesn't catch me, I don't know why: maybe it's the chorus (where even Noel's vocals get a bit annoying), or the plodding rhythm... |
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Post by LlAM on Dec 30, 2014 4:48:21 GMT -5
'Gospel' is the last word I'd use to describe it and Tender is the last song it reminds me of.
His "its not called its a crime (let there be loves alleged title)" is confusing too.
Maybe Noel is talking about a totally different song?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 30, 2014 13:42:26 GMT -5
'Gospel' is the last word I'd use to describe it and Tender is the last song it reminds me of. His "its not called its a crime (let there be loves alleged title)" is confusing too. Maybe Noel is talking about a totally different song? See Lock All The Doors/Setting Sun. |
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