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Post by You're My van der Waal on Oct 14, 2014 0:33:40 GMT -5
TDOYAM kicks the ass of ITHOTM if I'm being honest. One song is a Noel classic, the other is pop for the masses
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 14, 2014 0:47:06 GMT -5
Love both, but I'm really digging ITHOTM right now. Where as I haven't intentionally listened to TDOYAM in quite a while.
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Post by footballdropout on Oct 14, 2014 1:28:57 GMT -5
We'll have to see how it leads up to the album, you know? Independently judged on their merits as songs, I'd say TDOYAM is better but maybe Heat of the Moment is 'warming' us up for something great. (pardon the pun)
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 14, 2014 2:57:55 GMT -5
I like TDOYAM better. When I first heard it on the radio it grabbed my attention because it was quite different from the rest that's on, whereas the new song took me a few listens and would fit in better
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 3:11:43 GMT -5
TDOYAM has more structure and thought behind it but ITHOTM just grabs you and stamps on your balls I think Noel went for this after seeing the success of WAL and thought this could get him noticed better Onions  |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 14, 2014 3:53:16 GMT -5
TDOYAM kicks the ass of ITHOTM if I'm being honest. One song is a Noel classic, the other is pop for the masses This. no need to go on with that poll. It's not an awful song but clearly Noel fell for the "single for the masses" rather than take a real risk. The record needs to be a lot different. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Oct 14, 2014 4:01:26 GMT -5
'The Death of You and Me' is one of the best songs I've heard in years....'In the Heat of the Moment' is not.
God bless.
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Post by carlober on Oct 14, 2014 4:17:45 GMT -5
I'm sorry to disagree with most of you.
I was never a big fan of TDOYAM: it's a very good song but quite far from Noel's best and surely among the weakest tracks on NGHFB. I've always thought that Noel should have chosen something different as his first solo artist single, like EOTR.
ITHOTM is the right choice for the comeback: catchy, modern, radio friendly: it's not a track from Definitely Maybe or Morning Glory, but I do like it. And I'm sure that casual listeners will like it too...
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 14, 2014 4:45:07 GMT -5
Yeah I found The Death Of You And Me was a massive let down. I hardly heard it on the radio. This new single seems to me like Noel regretted not releasing What A Life first last time around and wanted to come back with an upbeat tune and it works great. The chorus is better than What A Life as well.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 14, 2014 4:54:33 GMT -5
TDOYAM is a bit of a Noel classic. It's got shades of Half the world way / Importance of being idle etc. to it. ITHOTM is a great tune, too. But I can remember waking up at 8 in the morning to listen to it on Radio 2 that morning and just falling in love with it. I'd give TDOYAM a 8/10 and this new one a 7/10
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Post by shinealight on Oct 14, 2014 4:55:34 GMT -5
Give me a month and I ll tell u later.
TDOYAM was not typical NG song... when I heard it I was puzzled what to think and just hopes the rest of the album would be better.
ITHOTM is more friendly on the first listen, maybe too radio friendly... now I hope that there will not be more than 2-3 disco songs on the album. Brilliant tune, but Cmon outside is better IMO
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Post by space75gr on Oct 14, 2014 4:59:34 GMT -5
"The Death of You and Me" is a pure timeless classic, a genious moment from Noel Gallagher, one of his greatest songs ever. it has the sharpness and edge, the thunder, the melancholy and power of Noel's best moments.
it was a love with the first listen and every time i hear it i feel the same.
on the other hand "In the Heat of the Moment" is exactly the opposite ...
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 14, 2014 5:13:19 GMT -5
TDOYAM has more structure and thought behind it but ITHOTM just grabs you and stamps on your balls I think Noel went for this after seeing the success of WAL and thought this could get him noticed better Onions This. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 14, 2014 5:39:58 GMT -5
I loved TDOYAM right away and still do, but I don't believe he could have just done the same thing again for this album. He went for something completely different and it's still pretty amazing - probably the worse song of the two, but as a lead single, to create hype and get played on the radio, I dare say ITHOTM is better.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 14, 2014 5:46:38 GMT -5
"The Death of You and Me" is a pure timeless classic, a genious moment from Noel Gallagher, one of his greatest songs ever. it has the sharpness and edge, the thunder, the melancholy and power of Noel's best moments. it was a love with the first listen and every time i hear it i feel the same. on the other hand "In the Heat of the Moment" is exactly the opposite ... Exactly. I dont hate the song but Noel is gonna regret releasing it as a single in a few years time. The fact that he says that it was recorded at the last minute makes me think his management wanted a What a Life 2. Or a Lyla 2. Dont know, from the facebook webcast he didnt seem too fond of the song. I understand that you gotta appeal to the masses but to me it's the song that falls into the category of Horse Lady. Filler quality, or at least i hope it is. Let's hope the rest of the record is much more adventurous and isn't a tracklist for a club night for the whooo girls to sing to. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 14, 2014 7:09:29 GMT -5
In The Heat of The Moment is the type of song I wanted Noel to kick off his solo career with. Something fresh and modern. Don't get me wrong, I really like The Death of You and Me buts it's kinda the second cousin to The Importance of Being Idle. We've heard Noel do this plenty of times. I also believe like many of you have stated that What A Life also would have been an excellent kickoff to his solo career. Love that tune!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 14, 2014 7:13:13 GMT -5
Exactly. I dont hate the song but Noel is gonna regret releasing it as a single in a few years time. The fact that he says that it was recorded at the last minute makes me think his management wanted a What a Life 2. Or a Lyla 2. Dont know, from the facebook webcast he didnt seem too fond of the song. I understand that you gotta appeal to the masses but to me it's the song that falls into the category of Horse Lady. Filler quality, or at least i hope it is. Let's hope the rest of the record is much more adventurous and isn't a tracklist for a club night for the whooo girls to sing to. All of you people waiting with baited breath for Noel to be adventurous are going to die disappointed. Noel is not, never, going to release something that is particularly adventurous. It's just not in his character or skill set to put out his own Kid A. He was born to write great pop-rock songs, and any experimentation is always going to be around the margins. Noel is going to regret releasing this as much as he regrets releasing WAL or Lyla. Which is to say he'll not regret it one bit. Adventurous for Noel is wanting to have the "Force of Nature" and "Mucky Fingers" be the lead singles off HC and DBTT. Thankfully cooler heads (record executives) prevailed.  |
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Post by waynegretzky on Oct 14, 2014 7:24:38 GMT -5
All of you people waiting with baited breath for Noel to be adventurous are going to die disappointed. Noel is not, never, going to release something that is particularly adventurous. It's just not in his character or skill set to put out his own Kid A. He was born to write great pop-rock songs, and any experimentation is always going to be around the margins. Noel is going to regret releasing this as much as he regrets releasing WAL or Lyla. Which is to say he'll not regret it one bit. Adventurous for Noel is wanting to have the "Force of Nature" and "Mucky Fingers" be the lead singles off HC and DBTT. Thankfully cooler heads (record executives) prevailed. People are fucking complainers. Noel puts out The Death of You and Me and they whine that it's too old timey, too stodgy. What A life is too dancehall. If I Had A Gun sounds too much like Oasis. In The heat of the Moment is too mainstream! Fuck, just enjoy the guy for who he is. Noel is still writing Noel music after all these years. Big bold and melodic. Embrace it. |
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Post by beentherenow on Oct 14, 2014 7:25:20 GMT -5
All of you people waiting with baited breath for Noel to be adventurous are going to die disappointed. Noel is not, never, going to release something that is particularly adventurous. It's just not in his character or skill set to put out his own Kid A. He was born to write great pop-rock songs, and any experimentation is always going to be around the margins. Noel is going to regret releasing this as much as he regrets releasing WAL or Lyla. Which is to say he'll not regret it one bit. Adventurous for Noel is wanting to have the "Force of Nature" and "Mucky Fingers" be the lead singles off HC and DBTT. Thankfully cooler heads (record executives) prevailed. Wasn't BOADC also considered for the first single off HC? Now that would have been interesting! |
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Oct 14, 2014 7:30:12 GMT -5
Perhaps the most damning thing I can say about ITHOTM is that it reminds my of Maroon 5. Especially the way Noel sings "pleaseee...", really reminds me of the vagina from Maroon 5. Doesn't Noel hate that band? He's sure doing his best to copy them.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 14, 2014 7:33:02 GMT -5
A lot of the same people who profess their undying love for TDOYAM, probably slated it as shit when it first came out. Loved it the first time i heard. It's the kinda song that is timeless and instant classic. Chills all over your body. In the moment i heard the new song, didn't feel any Heat, just "ok, it's alright". Adventurous for Noel is wanting to have the "Force of Nature" and "Mucky Fingers" be the lead singles off HC and DBTT. Thankfully cooler heads (record executives) prevailed. Those could have been bad choices, indeed. Once again, not saying this is a bad choice for a single, it's probably the best choice. But i hate that Noel has to do that, write a song for the radio, with a formula and all that : You can check all the bits that sell singles nowadays : groovy bassline, pounding drums, chorus repeated over and over again, over the top nananna's interlude. Just lacks a featuring Pharell Williams really. It's ok, that's how you sell records. That's perfect, perfect for say, an ad for cars... oh wait he's done that already  And he probably hates it too. |
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Oct 14, 2014 7:36:09 GMT -5
Perhaps the most damning thing I can say about ITHOTM is that it reminds my of Maroon 5. Especially the way Noel sings "pleaseee...", really reminds me of the vagina from Maroon 5. Doesn't Noel hate that band? He's sure doing his best to copy them. Now you're just trolling. I'm not but I really wish I was. Doesn't the harmonised "pleaseee..." sound like something Maroon 5 would do? |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 14, 2014 7:40:52 GMT -5
Now you're just trolling. I'm not but I really wish I was. Doesn't the harmonised "pleaseee..." sound like something Maroon 5 would do? Kinda agree here, it sounds like a song those kinda band would do. It's Noel, so he gets aways with it, almost. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 14, 2014 8:12:13 GMT -5
Exactly, that's just what it is. A catchy, radio friendly, easily accessible sing-along song that is pretty much guaranteed to get him some attention, possibly new fans. TDOYAM, great as it is, wasn't all that; it was a superb Noel Gallagher song, but it was a weird choice for the first single. No surprise that it was What a Life, a later single, that was most successfull.
Don't worry guys, there will be TDOYAMs on the album. It just makes sense not to use one as a lead single.
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Post by Cast on Oct 14, 2014 8:14:54 GMT -5
I think TDOYM is one of Noel's best songs since 00. I'm a really big fan of that song. It has one of Noel's best melodies ever. It is up there in terms of melody with the best of his work. That chorus is sublime and the verses are a change of pace for Noel. It is a "idle"/"kinks" rewrite, I'm not gonna deny that but it is weird tune. Love the horns and banjo on there.
ITHOTM is a nice change of direction with regards to sound. It is bluesy and pumping disco beat. Noel doesn't really have anything that sounds like it. It has traditional disco beat, bells, and cackling percussion, instruments he rarely uses or utilizes in the ways we hear on ITHOTM. There's nothing that sounds like it but the melody is less unique for Noel. It is more classic Noel than TDOYM is terms of melody.
TDOYM - classic Noel song, but with a unique and outstanding melody
ITHOTM - different sounding Noel song, but with a relatively traditional Noel melody/chorus
I prefer TDOYM but ITHOTM is an exciting change of pace. I could see the argument that the latter is a better 1st single.
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