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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 8, 2014 11:33:05 GMT -5
As of today, 1.37 million views between the three videos. Not bad at all. However, I was hoping for a bit more. The Death Of You And Me gained a lot more views than ITHOTM on it's release. And for In The Heat Of The Moment, it's been a 3 year break since any new material has been heard which was the same as TDOYAM. It could have done much better. I don't think November 17th will make much of a difference in views, as it technically already has been released. Only the b-side will get attention and that's if it's not leaked before then. And more so, ITHOTM is more in line with what mainstream listeners want to hear. The fact that it hasn't done better is not a good sign, especially in comparison to TDOYAM which I wouldn't consider pop rock and yet it gained far more views. 3 years from now, I don't see ITHOTM with 5 million views. I wonder if we can expect a decline in popularity and sales, like what happened with BE? I hope not. Spot on. A decline is most likely though I hope not ..... Side note. Well jrr isn't listening to us. Today as usual. Supernova was on while I was working out , no mention or sniff f single or even a promo li,e new noel coming , li,e you hear a lot on jrr for bands l..so im not having high hopes in states , sadly EXAMPLE : jrr promoed tne crap out of foo fighters new tune for months. Every time they played foo fighters they would say new music coming soon ,,, and they play that new tune like 10 times a day ....it would be nice after oasis if they did same for noel To give that kind of promotion for Foo Fighters, they probably have their hand in someones pocket and I don't think Noel's too interested for that kind of promotion at least not here in the states. For 101.1 to play Noel tunes, there would have to be a demand by the listeners. A lot more than just a few people. Maybe the 17th will make a difference, might be the perfect time to call again. As I said though, I don't listen to radio much at all anymore, so if they do end up playing it, let us know. We could consider that a victory!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 11:47:30 GMT -5
Spot on. A decline is most likely though I hope not ..... Side note. Well jrr isn't listening to us. Today as usual. Supernova was on while I was working out , no mention or sniff f single or even a promo li,e new noel coming , li,e you hear a lot on jrr for bands l..so im not having high hopes in states , sadly EXAMPLE : jrr promoed tne crap out of foo fighters new tune for months. Every time they played foo fighters they would say new music coming soon ,,, and they play that new tune like 10 times a day ....it would be nice after oasis if they did same for noel To give that kind of promotion for Foo Fighters, they probably have their hand in someones pocket and I don't think Noel's too interested for that kind of promotion at least not here in the states. For 101.1 to play Noel tunes, there would have to be a demand by the listeners. A lot more than just a few people. Maybe the 17th will make a difference, might be the perfect time to call again. As I said though, I don't listen to radio much at all anymore, so if they do end up playing it, let us know. We could consider that a victory! I agree I only listen to radio at gym cause that's all they got , and I'll turn on in car to see what crap is on , but your right man ....the promotion grohl gets is sickening to me , and if he wasn't connected to the allright nirvana machine im sure the promotion would not be same I really wish kurt would have been stronger and not pulled triger , would have loved to have seen if he would have sustained brilliance , unlike noel , or the stones , or most we only heard his best , so he is glorified for his genius ( rightfully so ) ...but would he have kept it up ?? I personaly say no ,don't think his anger would have lasted as his kid grew up , but who knows ?? Why he , Marylyn , James dean , buddy holly , are so revered , we never saw them age or do wrong in there craft Grohl definatly gets more play cause of that , not Harting on that , but would love noel to get that treatment ........ Edit : not hating nirvana , love them but we never got to hear a misstep , so there fame just grows while noel gets hammered for not writing like he's in his 20 s anymore
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 8, 2014 12:38:08 GMT -5
I guess the 17th will make difference, cause radio stations will probably start to play it more, especially stations around the world, and then when the album comes out people will go and listen to it agains etc. So views will increase, I'd say it'll get to 2 millions edventually
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 8, 2014 14:53:39 GMT -5
I guess the 17th will make difference, cause radio stations will probably start to play it more, especially stations around the world, and then when the album comes out people will go and listen to it agains etc. So views will increase, I'd say it'll get to 2 millions edventually With any luck, maybe it will explode. 2 million wouldn't be bad for one of the weakest songs on the album, as I think Noel has claimed it to be. TDOYAM, at least in my opinion, was one of the strongest of the bunch on HFB. Ballad of The Mighty I will be the real test if it really is the best song.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 8, 2014 14:58:27 GMT -5
Like I said before, I think this song was just meant to grab the attention again. It would be nice if it did well, but I'm not sure that was the main aim with this song. Why would you release one of the worst songs on your album then?
Ballad Of The Mighty I will be the real test indeed. If this is truly the best one, it should do well. But we'll see.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 8, 2014 18:26:41 GMT -5
The song on Youtube is pushing 1 million views in 3 weeks. Not that bad considering it hasn't officially been released yet and he isn't Justin Bieber. His VEVO account has a few thousand too so theres obviously some mixing and matching going on As of today, 1.37 million views between the three videos. Not bad at all. However, I was hoping for a bit more. The Death Of You And Me gained a lot more views than ITHOTM on it's release. And for In The Heat Of The Moment, it's been a 3 year break since any new material has been heard which was the same as TDOYAM. It could have done much better. I don't think November 17th will make much of a difference in views, as it technically already has been released. Only the b-side will get attention and that's if it's not leaked before then. And more so, ITHOTM is more in line with what mainstream listeners want to hear. The fact that it hasn't done better is not a good sign, especially in comparison to TDOYAM which I wouldn't consider pop rock and yet it gained far more views. 3 years from now, I don't see ITHOTM with 5 million views. I wonder if we can expect a decline in popularity and sales, like what happened with BE? I hope not. It wasn't the 3 year gap that got TDOYAM those views. It was the fact that it was Noel's first post Oasis outing. That isn't the case this time. Plus if you will remember it got featured on the YouTube homepage which was one of the reasons that TDOYAM views increased so quickly in comparison to ITHOTM. Additionally I think with the fact that CY isn't out until March this single was more intended as a taster because they are aware it has been so long. Noel said it was a bit throwaway. I think the bigger promotional push will be in January to start actually amping up to the album release in March. There is no point in putting in too much effort in this far out to promote one single that far in advance of the album. Noel will struggle outside of the UK a bit drumming up interest but I don't think that we have to worry about Noel sliding into obscurity. At least not in the UK like BDI did.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 8, 2014 18:39:35 GMT -5
As of today, 1.37 million views between the three videos. Not bad at all. However, I was hoping for a bit more. The Death Of You And Me gained a lot more views than ITHOTM on it's release. And for In The Heat Of The Moment, it's been a 3 year break since any new material has been heard which was the same as TDOYAM. It could have done much better. I don't think November 17th will make much of a difference in views, as it technically already has been released. Only the b-side will get attention and that's if it's not leaked before then. And more so, ITHOTM is more in line with what mainstream listeners want to hear. The fact that it hasn't done better is not a good sign, especially in comparison to TDOYAM which I wouldn't consider pop rock and yet it gained far more views. 3 years from now, I don't see ITHOTM with 5 million views. I wonder if we can expect a decline in popularity and sales, like what happened with BE? I hope not. It wasn't the 3 year gap that got TDOYAM those views. It was the fact that it was Noel's first post Oasis outing. That isn't the case this time. Plus if you will remember it got featured on the YouTube homepage which was one of the reasons that TDOYAM views increased so quickly in comparison to ITHOTM. Additionally I think with the fact that CY isn't out until March this single was more intended as a taster because they are aware it has been so long. Noel said it was a bit throwaway. I think the bigger promotional push will be in January to start actually amping up to the album release in March. There is no point in putting in too much effort in this far out to promote one single that far in advance of the album. Noel will struggle outside of the UK a bit drumming up interest but I don't think that we have to worry about Noel sliding into obscurity. At least not in the UK like BDI did. Good points. I forgot that TDOYAM was featured on YouTube homepage. Any chance that might happen again with future singles? If I Had A Gun did fairly well too, at 4m views, was that also featured?
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Post by spaneli on Nov 8, 2014 18:42:08 GMT -5
Like I said before, I think this song was just meant to grab the attention again. It would be nice if it did well, but I'm not sure that was the main aim with this song. Why would you release one of the worst songs on your album then? Ballad Of The Mighty I will be the real test indeed. If this is truly the best one, it should do well. But we'll see. This. With the way Noel has released this single of course it won't be high in views. I still think he won't be able to replicate what he did last album cycle. It was just too perfect. But I don't think there will be a significant drop in album sales like Beady Eye. Beady Eye suffered 33% to 66% drops in their sales in every country because of a debut album that wasn't received well by the casuals. Noel is no where near that. He built up a nice support base last time out. I think he ends up somewhere between 500-600k in album sales in the UK. He'll easily get platinum in the UK. Remember, there were two things that worked in TDOYAM's favour last time out: 1.) It was Noel's first single post-Oasis 2.) The press conference. When Noel had that press conference everyone was looking at him. Because he smartly sold the story of the last night of Oasis for attention to his music. He then went on a media barrage. It appears right now, he's content to let this single simmer. Once Noel's name was out there, then everyone rushed to hear his new song because it was his first post-Oasis release. Doing that got the TDOYAM good Youtube plays and #15 on the charts. I don't think ITHOTM will perform near that well. And why should it? He's done no live tv appearances to promote it, no live radio plays, he's staggered the release dates. It appears he's using this single as more of a bridge to his main promotional push. So, when he releases the Ballad of the Mighty I in January. I suspect that will look much more like his usual album push. As I've said, right now it seems he's more content letting ITHOTM sit out there and do the work itself, so lay the groundwork for him. Also, it appears the single was more to drum up early pre-sales. This album will have 5 months worth of pre-sales on it. Just about every hardcore fan went out there and probably pre-ordered by now. Just like when TDOYAM was released. Whereas, when IIHAG and WAL were released, they were clearly to drum up support amongst the masses. I suspect the drop in interest because it's not Noel releasing his first album again will be off-set by this long pre-order spin. If not for the five month pre-order then I think 120k would be expecting a lot this time around. I think he'll match the opening week 120k he had last time only because he'll have time on his side with the 5 months. I think he follows the same pattern as last time and gets one of his songs in a commercial so it should get that 500-600k mark fairly easily. But for sure right now, I'd say he'll get platinum at least with worldwide sales being 900k-1 mill. Which obviously could change depending on well the Might I does or how soon he releases a third single and how good it is.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 8, 2014 18:46:12 GMT -5
As of today, 1.37 million views between the three videos. Not bad at all. However, I was hoping for a bit more. The Death Of You And Me gained a lot more views than ITHOTM on it's release. And for In The Heat Of The Moment, it's been a 3 year break since any new material has been heard which was the same as TDOYAM. It could have done much better. I don't think November 17th will make much of a difference in views, as it technically already has been released. Only the b-side will get attention and that's if it's not leaked before then. And more so, ITHOTM is more in line with what mainstream listeners want to hear. The fact that it hasn't done better is not a good sign, especially in comparison to TDOYAM which I wouldn't consider pop rock and yet it gained far more views. 3 years from now, I don't see ITHOTM with 5 million views. I wonder if we can expect a decline in popularity and sales, like what happened with BE? I hope not. It wasn't the 3 year gap that got TDOYAM those views. It was the fact that it was Noel's first post Oasis outing. That isn't the case this time. Plus if you will remember it got featured on the YouTube homepage which was one of the reasons that TDOYAM views increased so quickly in comparison to ITHOTM. Additionally I think with the fact that CY isn't out until March this single was more intended as a taster because they are aware it has been so long. Noel said it was a bit throwaway. I think the bigger promotional push will be in January to start actually amping up to the album release in March. There is no point in putting in too much effort in this far out to promote one single that far in advance of the album. Noel will struggle outside of the UK a bit drumming up interest but I don't think that we have to worry about Noel sliding into obscurity. At least not in the UK like BDI did.Bdi will always be HUGE in the Live4ever Forum BDi section. God bless.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 8, 2014 18:53:16 GMT -5
As of today, 1.37 million views between the three videos. Not bad at all. However, I was hoping for a bit more. The Death Of You And Me gained a lot more views than ITHOTM on it's release. And for In The Heat Of The Moment, it's been a 3 year break since any new material has been heard which was the same as TDOYAM. It could have done much better. I don't think November 17th will make much of a difference in views, as it technically already has been released. Only the b-side will get attention and that's if it's not leaked before then. And more so, ITHOTM is more in line with what mainstream listeners want to hear. The fact that it hasn't done better is not a good sign, especially in comparison to TDOYAM which I wouldn't consider pop rock and yet it gained far more views. 3 years from now, I don't see ITHOTM with 5 million views. I wonder if we can expect a decline in popularity and sales, like what happened with BE? I hope not. It wasn't the 3 year gap that got TDOYAM those views. It was the fact that it was Noel's first post Oasis outing. That isn't the case this time. Plus if you will remember it got featured on the YouTube homepage which was one of the reasons that TDOYAM views increased so quickly in comparison to ITHOTM. Additionally I think with the fact that CY isn't out until March this single was more intended as a taster because they are aware it has been so long. Noel said it was a bit throwaway. I think the bigger promotional push will be in January to start actually amping up to the album release in March. There is no point in putting in too much effort in this far out to promote one single that far in advance of the album. Noel will struggle outside of the UK a bit drumming up interest but I don't think that we have to worry about Noel sliding into obscurity. At least not in the UK like BDI did. I honestly think Noel should premier the Ballad of the Mighty I in America. Go to LA or Chicago where the larger alt. rock stations exist. IIHAG got to the top 25 on the alt. rock songs chart because he came directly here to release it. Releasing a song here does make a difference in plays. If he had stayed for maybe a week or two longer to actually do a promotional push last time out, I think his sales in the US would have been much better and IIHAG would have a bigger song, possibly a Top 15. Instead, he came, premiered the song, went to New York for a couple of days and left. When really, he should have hit up the five major alt. rock radio stations and done a couple of tv appearances. Personally, there's less point in making an extensive push in the UK where he knows he'll sell well. He'll have two months before that album drops. I say go to other territories to promote the Might I. Spend two weeks in the US then two weeks in Japan doing radio and tv. Then head back to the UK for the final one month push. I really believe that if he makes the effort here in the states he will get the plays. And really, it only take a two week push. Just enough to get the large regional adds on the larger alt. radio stations, then the smaller ones follow (it's what IIHAG nearly did, but Noel let it die here). The US and Japan are two places where he under performed immensely last time. He needs to get those two markets back. It's nice to have UK album sales to fall back on, but he should be looking to get his audience back up in the other countries early on. Especially in the former Oasis stronghold that is Japan.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 8, 2014 19:18:59 GMT -5
I hope he'll do better in my country as well. The album peaked at 11 and none of the singles charted in the top40.
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Post by mouth on Nov 10, 2014 15:48:42 GMT -5
i actually can't be arsed to listen to it anymore. no patch on the death of you and me as a first single from a new album. i hope that in the heat of the moment is by far the weakest track of the new album. i really hope so.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 13, 2014 11:39:36 GMT -5
So the release will be in a few days. How will it perform in the charts? #1 single? Top 3? Top 10? Top 100? Will it even chart at all? Make your prediction.
I say top 30.
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Post by carlober on Nov 13, 2014 12:10:08 GMT -5
So the release will be in a few days. How will it perform in the charts? #1 single? Top 3? Top 10? Top 100? Will it even chart at all? Make your prediction. I say top 30. Most people have had one entire fuckin' month (and 3 different videos) to download it off Youtube. Only the fans will buy it.
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 13, 2014 12:15:25 GMT -5
So the release will be in a few days. How will it perform in the charts? #1 single? Top 3? Top 10? Top 100? Will it even chart at all? Make your prediction. I say top 30. If it's going to be released on iTunes I say top 30 too. Maybe top 20 because it is overplayed on BBC Radio 2.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 13, 2014 12:21:37 GMT -5
So the release will be in a few days. How will it perform in the charts? #1 single? Top 3? Top 10? Top 100? Will it even chart at all? Make your prediction. I say top 30. If it's going to be released on iTunes I say top 30 too. Maybe top 20 because it is overplayed on BBC Radio 2. Oh, I assumed it would be up for digital download. Fingers crossed that it will be.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 13, 2014 12:22:48 GMT -5
So the release will be in a few days. How will it perform in the charts? #1 single? Top 3? Top 10? Top 100? Will it even chart at all? Make your prediction. I say top 30. Most people have had one entire fuckin' month (and 3 different videos) to download it off Youtube. Only the fans will buy it. Yeah, but many won't mind kicking out a few bucks or less for a digital download (if released this way), just to show support. Plus they'll get the b-side too.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 13, 2014 12:46:50 GMT -5
Am I interpreting this right that the song is getting quite some airplay in the UK? Not sure how that would affect how well the single does, but it would be a good sign anyway.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 13, 2014 12:49:35 GMT -5
I don't think many people will buy it, just hardcore fans. "How many people don't mind spending a few quid" etc. I'll tell you. Not many. Especially if it's up for grabs on Youtube and has been for over a month
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 13, 2014 12:50:09 GMT -5
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 13, 2014 12:50:20 GMT -5
BBC Radio 2 is playing it a lot,XFM and Absolute Radio too obviously
Anyway I'd say Top 40,it's true that people could have downloaded it off Youtube,but he's got a quite strong fanbase and Youtube quality is so fucking shit It won't make the Top 20 though
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Post by carlober on Nov 13, 2014 12:51:03 GMT -5
Most people have had one entire fuckin' month (and 3 different videos) to download it off Youtube. Only the fans will buy it. Yeah, but many won't mind kicking out a few bucks or less for a digital download (if released this way), just to show support. Plus they'll get the b-side too. Of course, but what if they had put the single on iTunes right after the album announcement? That would have been 21st century marketing, this looks just lame to me. I've said it many times, but one month of waiting (and for a single!) is simply unacceptable. We're nearly in 2015.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 13, 2014 13:09:22 GMT -5
Yeah, but many won't mind kicking out a few bucks or less for a digital download (if released this way), just to show support. Plus they'll get the b-side too. Of course, but what if they had put the single on iTunes right after the album announcement? That would have been 21st century marketing, this looks just lame to me. I've said it many times, but one month of waiting (and for a single!) is simply unacceptable. We're nearly in 2015. Well, at least they have a lot of time to plan what they're going to do for the remaining singles. They'll see whether or not this strategy works for ITHOTM, if it doesn't, they have about 2 months to plan to get it right for Mighty I.
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Post by nghfbs on Nov 13, 2014 13:36:08 GMT -5
Noel = Genius
Noel's Management = Morons
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 13, 2014 15:29:57 GMT -5
Noel = Genius Noel's Management = Morons Noels a genius, sadly not on ITHOTM.
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