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Post by vs on Oct 16, 2014 5:13:55 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but I do not like it. Maybe the worst Noel's solo songs... I can't understand how "Revolution Song", which is a great tune, and "Freeky Teeth" could be excluded in favor of this boring song. First single should have been "She Must Be One of Us", another great song excluded from the album...
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Post by LlAM on Oct 16, 2014 5:15:14 GMT -5
Well, Oasis themselves can't be placed in line with legendary bands like the Beatles to me, and let's be honest, after Be Here Now they were still big but not legendary. They had the potential to be, but they just didn't continue in the same line. Noel has written a few all time classics while in Oasis, like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Live Forever etc. And while HFB was a good album, and this new single is alright too, he hasn't written a new Wonderwall yet. And with that I don't mean a song with the same chords, I mean a song that is so universal and that everyone, no matter where you are, can sing along to. A songwriter like McCartney isn't just remembered for his work in The Beatles. He also released some all time classics during his solo career, like Maybe I'm Amazed, Live and let die, Band on the run etc. Noel hasn't. And I don't know if he has any more Wonderwalls in store for us. I can't think of one fucking classic song made by anyone that everyone can sing along too being made in the last 10-15 years. Woop woop gangnam style... hep hep!!!!!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 16, 2014 5:17:43 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but I do not like it. Maybe the worst Noel's solo songs... I can't understand how "Revolution Song", which is a great tune, and "Freeky Teeth" could be excluded in favor of this boring song. First single should have been "She Must Be One of Us", another great song excluded from the album... No.
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Post by carlober on Oct 16, 2014 5:39:22 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but I do not like it. Maybe the worst Noel's solo songs... I can't understand how "Revolution Song", which is a great tune, and "Freeky Teeth" could be excluded in favor of this boring song. First single should have been "She Must Be One of Us", another great song excluded from the album... Ok, Freaky Teeth is a great song, but Revolution Song has been excluded from something like 4 different albums in 14 years: it's definitely not an highlight of Oasis/Noel's career. I do think that She Must Be One Of Us is a nice little song... but first single? Really? Maybe a good B-side, but not anything more than that...
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 16, 2014 5:46:03 GMT -5
For me, the acid test is always 'how quickly do I want to learn it on my guitar'. For all the singles bar What A Life last time round, I instantly picked up my guitar to try to figure out the chords. I remember getting frustrated at the TDOYAM riff at first until finally conquering it. That's what makes Noel's music great for me, it's easy guitar music that's interesting enough to make you want to learn it. In the Heat of the Moment simply doesn't have that appeal. I don't feel like learning it on the guitar because there's nothing interesting about it. Just simple chords with boring chord progressions. As has been said many times, it's soft safe music for boring people. A 7/10 at best with the Noel factor. 6/10 without. Same here ! Sadly last song i picked up guitar with excitement to learn was probably Let There Be Love if you look chronologically. I can play some of HFB and Dig Out Your Soul but that's because it's so dead easy that you just hear how it goes immediately. Gotta check out What A Life though, never tried that. Don't try the new song ! It's even discouraging when you'll find out how it took him 30 sec to write that P.S. Yesterday i learnt Cry Baby Cry by The Beatles. Try that, it's fun to play.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 16, 2014 5:51:48 GMT -5
Oh I thought we were talking about this one This is also a pretty good song. Love the outro.
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Post by losingmyhead on Oct 16, 2014 6:01:43 GMT -5
Talk about needing some reality pills. Of course his very best days are behind him--he's in his 40s and he's already written Morning Glory and Definitely Maybe two of the greatest albums of all time. Even if he wrote another Definitely Maybe, it still wouldn't be viewed as another Definitely Maybe because that's just the way people perceive things. Virtually noone does their best work in their 40s and 50s. 99 percent peak in their 20s and early 30s. As much as people go on about Bob Dylan's later work, it hasn't a patch on Blonde on Blonde and Highway 61 Revisited. And as much as I love me some Paul McCartney, he hasn't done anything Hall of Fame worthy since about 1975, when he was still in his early 30s. Noel turned solo in his early 40s. Big difference. And you thought Noel would be bigger than NGHFB? That album sold three quarters of a million copies in the UK, an huge amount of albums in this day and age. No sane person would have predicted any better before NGHFB came out. Well I wouldn't even have Blonde on Blonde or Highway 61 in my top three. There is a big difference between Bob and Noel. Bob's work in the late 90's, 2000's might not be up there with Blood on The Tracks or Blonde on Blonde but it is still some of his best work and of a consistently high quality. I think all we can hope for from Noel are 3 or 4 really great tunes per album. I think this post, as thoughtful as it is, reflects the lack of perspective some people have on this site. Fine, you want to put Time Out Of Mind and Modern Times up that high--I wouldn't, but let's call them near-classics. But what about the dozen or so subpar albums Dylan put out from 1977 to 1992, most of them complete and utter dog's breakfasts? If you had asked a Bob Dylan fan about how his career had turned out after he hit 35 in 1992, I think you would get some pretty awful sounding answers. And Bob Dylan is probably one of the top 3-4 artists of the last 100 years. I think even the most grandiose fans on this site would put Noel many, many, many notches below that. You say the best we can expect are 3-4 really great tunes per album from Noel, and imply that this is some sort of disappointment. I have the exact same expectations and think that that would be great. When was the last time Noel wrote more than 3 or 4 great tunes per album? 1995? 3 or 4 great tunes per album is pretty darn great. When was the last time the Rolling Stones wrote even 2 great tunes for an album. 1977? Paul McCartney? 1974?
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Post by squire on Oct 16, 2014 7:05:53 GMT -5
I was also skeptical when I heard that Noel was playing Supersonic acoustically, turned out being a great version of a total classic. I believe he can pull off the same with this song. Don't underestimate what the Chief can do with a capo.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Oct 16, 2014 7:45:26 GMT -5
Only one song pops in mind Seven Nation Army Hey ya! - Outkast Bohemian like you - Dandy Warhols, which is very popular becaus of the Vodaphone spot in 2001 or so are you gonna be my girl - Jet seven nation army - white stripes
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Post by vs on Oct 16, 2014 7:51:41 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but I do not like it. Maybe the worst Noel's solo songs... I can't understand how "Revolution Song", which is a great tune, and "Freeky Teeth" could be excluded in favor of this boring song. First single should have been "She Must Be One of Us", another great song excluded from the album... Ok, Freaky Teeth is a great song, but Revolution Song has been excluded from something like 4 different albums in 14 years: it's definitely not an highlight of Oasis/Noel's career. I do think that She Must Be One Of Us is a nice little song... but first single? Really? Maybe a good B-side, but not anything more than that... "She Must Be One of Us is a great great song compared to "In the Heat of the Moment", IMHO...
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Oct 16, 2014 7:56:18 GMT -5
I loved "oh lord" thought the tanpura and the guitar solo worked really well! but I think everybody hated this song back then . it seemd so.
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Post by stevemeister on Oct 16, 2014 7:56:39 GMT -5
Dude I barely even know Arcade Fire exist....that says something. Well that's on you pal. Absolutely ....but that's the point I'm trying to make. Name me a fucking mind bending classic song that everyone with decent musical should at least know of. Who cares anyway this NG tune is pretty shit.
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Post by stevemeister on Oct 16, 2014 7:59:19 GMT -5
I can't think of one fucking classic song made by anyone that everyone can sing along too being made in the last 10-15 years. Woop woop gangnam style... hep hep!!!!! Well fuck me then lets add the Macarena and the Ketchup song as well lol....20 year range now.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Oct 16, 2014 7:59:42 GMT -5
for me the weird thing is. I like the fact, that this is sounding fresher more .... kind of electric, with the nananas and the distorted bass and all the little things in the background, BUT I haven't felt the need to listen to it, since it came out. I have listened to it I think 3-4 times and its fun. the thing that botheres me the most is that it feels like, that I get bored by the typical Noel chorus's. its building and then a phrase where one word is stretched and everything is a little more powerful. I know ... a great formula for a chorus but I miss the surprise a bit. Maybe thats the reason why I liked "BE", because it was "chorus? ... can't find one ... fuck it! make a hook line and give it a droney feeling!"
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Post by nsb86 on Oct 16, 2014 8:00:12 GMT -5
Just played it again on XFM and it actually gets better each time I hear it and i loved it the first time. To all the haters, doesn't it make you want to dance or is that the problem? I seriously can't wait for the remix.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 16, 2014 8:01:41 GMT -5
Well that's on you pal. Absolutely ....but that's the point I'm trying to make. Name me a fucking mind bending classic song that everyone with decent musical should at least know of. Who cares anyway this NG tune is pretty shit. Everybody knows Hey Ya!
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Post by stevemeister on Oct 16, 2014 8:04:39 GMT -5
Ok so back in 2008 when I first came back to Canada after a 15 year absence I was at Olympic Plaza in Calgary and I was showing my wife how to ice skate and this Russian fellow comes up to us and starts giving her some tips...eventually I ask the dude what he was listening to since he had headphones on.
The Ruskie says, think of the best song ever made that everyone loves, I thought well probably Imagine by Lennon and I was right...he put his headphones on me man! If that doesn't describe what a classic song is well fuck us all.
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Post by carlober on Oct 16, 2014 8:13:43 GMT -5
Ok, Freaky Teeth is a great song, but Revolution Song has been excluded from something like 4 different albums in 14 years: it's definitely not an highlight of Oasis/Noel's career. I do think that She Must Be One Of Us is a nice little song... but first single? Really? Maybe a good B-side, but not anything more than that... "She Must Be One of Us is a great great song compared to "In the Heat of the Moment", IMHO... I can imagine the reaction of most people on here if the first single was She Must Be One Of Us... And it's best not to mention the reaction of the casual listeners (given that they would be any, since She Must Be One Of Us would probably get zero airplay on the radio)
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 16, 2014 9:06:33 GMT -5
I would interpret all this rant as an overreacted backlash to the new single. I dont think anybody was expecting another wonderwall, but a song that would bring as much satisfaction as TDOYAM brought (to me anyway). The new song could have easily been a b-side to the last album, and you all know it. In my opinion, I heard it for about 7 times yesterday, trying to force myself to like it, but havent listened to it again since. Now that's rare for me when it comes to Oasis/Noel music. That's how bad I think the song is. I can totally get the frustration, after 4 years of nothing new. But that's not to say that his whole solo career is gonna be underwhelming. People just overreact, that's all. You don't speak for me or for many others. Stop pretending as if you do. Ok, man, I get your frustation. I shouldn't have said it like that, and I'll be sure to choose my words wisely on my other posts. I'll probably take a linguistics course to learn how to say the correct words, so I won't insult you or others when posting on na internet forum. Starting now, so here we go. I loved NGHFB, so I'm not a nostalgic fan that wants to listen the same song over and over again. Therefore, my problem with it being "modern" or whatever, it's because I think it's a poor attempt. I would very much appreciate it if you could get back to me on your opinion of this song, say, a couple of months from now.
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Post by carlober on Oct 16, 2014 9:11:19 GMT -5
This is one hell of a bizarre cover...
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Post by andymorris on Oct 16, 2014 9:16:14 GMT -5
haha this is great Can't say i had a urge to listen to the proper version in the past couple of days, that's a first for a Gallagher, Noel tune. F.I.L.L.E.R
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Post by AubreyOasis on Oct 16, 2014 9:41:55 GMT -5
I liked it at first listen, but now I simply love it. Would have been a perfect b -side of the early years (yes, I like it THAT much) .
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Post by LlAM on Oct 16, 2014 9:59:44 GMT -5
Ok so back in 2008 when I first came back to Canada after a 15 year absence I was at Olympic Plaza in Calgary and I was showing my wife how to ice skate and this Russian fellow comes up to us and starts giving her some tips...eventually I ask the dude what he was listening to since he had headphones on. The Ruskie says, think of the best song ever made that everyone loves, I thought well probably Imagine by Lennon and I was right...he put his headphones on me man! If that doesn't describe what a classic song is well fuck us all. Ask my son the same question and he'd tell you it's Gangnam Style.
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Post by stevemeister on Oct 16, 2014 10:29:38 GMT -5
Ok so back in 2008 when I first came back to Canada after a 15 year absence I was at Olympic Plaza in Calgary and I was showing my wife how to ice skate and this Russian fellow comes up to us and starts giving her some tips...eventually I ask the dude what he was listening to since he had headphones on. The Ruskie says, think of the best song ever made that everyone loves, I thought well probably Imagine by Lennon and I was right...he put his headphones on me man! If that doesn't describe what a classic song is well fuck us all. Ask my son the same question and he'd tell you it's Gangnam Style. You need to steer him away from that!
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Post by bestwick8 on Oct 16, 2014 10:33:08 GMT -5
I wonder if liam would have been able to handle the vocals?
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