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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 15, 2014 15:41:25 GMT -5
A song doesn't go anywhere when it has potential but...it just doesn't go anywhere
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 15, 2014 15:57:52 GMT -5
Too many people expect too much here. Some say Noel should do more fast, rocking, modern songs - well there you have it. Others expect him to do more stuff in the vein of Oasis - yeah, I'm kinda sure there will be SOME of that on the album, no worries.
And that "best times behind him" talk - he wrote DM, WTSMG and BHN some twenty years ago, and the number of songwriters coming up with really great stuff after twenty years is very very low. Noel still does songs that are pretty much as good as most of the songs back then, he just never did another Live Forever or Wonderwall which happen to be two of the best songs of all time. Even the few singers/songwriters who had success after their band split ran dry after twenty years. Paul McCartney? Definitely had his "best days behind him" in the 80s. Even the all time greats don't release new songs that are instant classics all the time.
Noel is a great songwriter, he might never do another Wonderwall (how's that supposed to work anyway? The second we hear a new song in that vein a la If I Had A Gun everybody goes "boring!", "same chords again"...) but he is still writing amazing songs, worthy of any Oasis album, as good as any songwriter in his 40s and better than pretty much everything out there right now.
BTW, same thing with Wonderwall/IIHAG etc and the dad rock thing. If Noel released, as said above me, Stand By Me or even Some Might Say in 2015, that would absolutely be dad rock. Of course a song is going to sound younger and more energetic when you have Liam Gallagher at the peak of his career singing it.
Ranting a little right now but I don't get the negativity on here.
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Post by Praetorian on Oct 15, 2014 16:03:37 GMT -5
Hell, if Noel Gallagher had written Morning Glory last year and released it as the single, people would be calling it dad rock.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 15, 2014 16:05:07 GMT -5
And he's playing arenas  Think about that. One solo album in and he had a double platinum and is playing to arenas. With two Top 20 hits under his belt in the UK. I think he's doing fine. The only thing I'd like to see him do is try to push for an expansion of his american fan base. I want to say he sold 16-21k records in the US last time. I'd be nice if he could get it to a solid 30-50k. Which would be a doubling of his buying audience and a LARGE jump, but it would mean that he got part of the casual American Oasis fan base to buy back in, which would give him a more sustained tour. But for his first album without the oasis name behind him he did fine for the most part. It would be a wise idea for Noel to link up with a larger act, sorta like what he did with Snow Patrol, and open for them in America. At least one leg like that. It's a great opportunity for new fans to discover Mr. Noel Gallagher. Opening for The Black Keys, Kings of Leon, U2, etc would be the worst ideas in the world. Definitely agree. I'd really like for him to do that type of arrangement again. Really gave him a chance to be in some markets that he wouldn't have normally been in. |
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Post by magicman on Oct 15, 2014 16:05:41 GMT -5
classic sing-along-song in the last 15 years? off the top.. american idiot-greenday seven nation army- white stripes yellow-coldplay in the end-linkin park also, wings big hits didn't come until the 3rd album (band on the run) with songs like "jet" and title track "band on the run" regarding the "na na" song (surely i'd prefer a guitar riff) noel finds a sound with this track that we heard with aka.what a life, but this time stronger effort in that direction (dance/rock radio) idk if that's good or bad  it will be booming live i do like the mix though and the percussion on 2nd verse is nice a touch |
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Post by plaskins1 on Oct 15, 2014 16:08:04 GMT -5
I realised today what the na na na's were reminding me of..
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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 15, 2014 16:13:39 GMT -5
3 words: Kaiser fuckin Chiefs. Not a bad song but nobody will remember this in few years from now. And this tour will be our only chance to hear song live
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 15, 2014 16:14:11 GMT -5
I noticed that some people haven't read certain posts well while replying and sometimes they give off the feeling that they themselves don't even know what the fuck they're talking about.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 15, 2014 16:16:45 GMT -5
I would interpret all this rant as an overreacted backlash to the new single. I dont think anybody was expecting another wonderwall, but a song that would bring as much satisfaction as TDOYAM brought (to me anyway).
The new song could have easily been a b-side to the last album, and you all know it. In my opinion, I heard it for about 7 times yesterday, trying to force myself to like it, but havent listened to it again since. Now that's rare for me when it comes to Oasis/Noel music. That's how bad I think the song is.
I can totally get the frustration, after 4 years of nothing new. But that's not to say that his whole solo career is gonna be underwhelming. People just overreact, that's all.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 15, 2014 16:18:59 GMT -5
Hell, if Noel Gallagher had written Morning Glory last year and released it as the single, people would be calling it dad rock Today is the day that all our kids will see. |
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 15, 2014 16:28:32 GMT -5
I have to say I don't understand how people rate The Death Of You And Me so much. It's utterly forgettable and I doubt if you picked 10 people in the street more than 2 would remember hearing it. This has better chance because it sounds modern and contemporary and it's got a big chorus and nanananas in it. It's done a similar job to What A Life which along with Everybody's On The Run was the single that was still being played on Absolute Radio last week. I can imagine the remix of this being played in clubs.
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 15, 2014 16:33:46 GMT -5
I would interpret all this rant as an overreacted backlash to the new single. I dont think anybody was expecting another wonderwall, but a song that would bring as much satisfaction as TDOYAM brought (to me anyway). The new song could have easily been a b-side to the last album, and you all know it. In my opinion, I heard it for about 7 times yesterday, trying to force myself to like it, but havent listened to it again since. Now that's rare for me when it comes to Oasis/Noel music. That's how bad I think the song is. I can totally get the frustration, after 4 years of nothing new. But that's not to say that his whole solo career is gonna be underwhelming. People just overreact, that's all. Its just a nothing song which after a few listens is boring and I dont really want to hear again. Its a sub par b-side at best. The rest of the album may be great but this shouldn't be on it. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 15, 2014 16:45:58 GMT -5
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Post by carlober on Oct 15, 2014 16:49:38 GMT -5
Its just a nothing song which after a few listens is boring and I dont really want to hear again. Its a sub par b-side at best. The rest of the album may be great but this shouldn't be on it. I respect your opinion, mate... but I had a look at your posts from the last couple of years: is there anything you like? Maroon 5, maybe? |
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Post by maybedefinitely on Oct 15, 2014 16:51:04 GMT -5
That's just, like, your opinion, man. There are many facets to this thing.. many ins and outs.. many 'what have you's'... I've got it... it's the chick's backing vocals that ruin this song. If it was just Noel going "nanana" it would be so much better! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 15, 2014 16:53:16 GMT -5
The nananas sound very mechanical to me.,
Today's observation of this forum: either some of you lot are offended easily or you're just PMSing like hell
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 15, 2014 16:55:08 GMT -5
Its just a nothing song which after a few listens is boring and I dont really want to hear again. Its a sub par b-side at best. The rest of the album may be great but this shouldn't be on it. I respect your opinion, mate... but I had a look at your posts from the last couple of years: is there anything you like? Maroon 5, maybe? Eh? I loved the first album. "Alone On The Rope" was one of the best Noel songs in years. The rest of the "Chasing" may be stunning, just not digging this one at all. |
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Post by spud on Oct 15, 2014 16:59:20 GMT -5
The na na na's are pretty grating but that aside there's nothing really wrong with it as such, it just totally lacks any substance. Think more than any single he's released in his career so far this one reeks the most of 'making music cos I've got nothing else to do'.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 15, 2014 17:05:49 GMT -5
I love all the sexual aggression around here.
Thanks.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Oct 15, 2014 17:17:25 GMT -5
I would interpret all this rant as an overreacted backlash to the new single. I dont think anybody was expecting another wonderwall, but a song that would bring as much satisfaction as TDOYAM brought (to me anyway). The new song could have easily been a b-side to the last album, and you all know it. In my opinion, I heard it for about 7 times yesterday, trying to force myself to like it, but havent listened to it again since. Now that's rare for me when it comes to Oasis/Noel music. That's how bad I think the song is. I can totally get the frustration, after 4 years of nothing new. But that's not to say that his whole solo career is gonna be underwhelming. People just overreact, that's all. Who the hell wants another wonderwall? It's THE most overrated oasis song ever. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 17:20:17 GMT -5
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 15, 2014 17:49:22 GMT -5
I love all the sexual aggression around here. Thanks. This thread is somehow like this song. Should be something special and exciting but instead it's just like throwing stuff at each other in a closen room with no passion to it, just bored you know. -take that bitch - oh wait a minute, i have to grab that from the floor - let's go out and have some food, i'm hungry -sure -alright then |
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Post by jordan71421 on Oct 15, 2014 18:02:16 GMT -5
Still jamming to it rn, I'm getting really excited for the album, I'm trying to block out a lot of the negativity until I actually listen to the album when it comes out. I'm just excited I might get the chance to see him live again! |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 15, 2014 18:08:33 GMT -5
I like that Noel is adapting to the modern age. Too often artists are sort of lost in their own past, trying to write the same songs that made them famous. Noel tried a little bit to adapt on the last two Oasis albums, but he didn't go full at it until HFB. I think it's a smart move, because it keeps him relevant in the music industry. And it's really great when an artist can blend their former work with a modern sound, just like Noel has with songs like What A Life and ITHOTM.
I can understand why many would resent this, because they'd prefer to hear, as someone on this thread put it, 'nostalgia music'.
If you can't adapt with Noel, at least you have everything he's already written to still enjoy. Just wish him a successful career, even if you don't care for the new stuff and keep hoping he writes something new you will enjoy.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 15, 2014 18:12:13 GMT -5
I would interpret all this rant as an overreacted backlash to the new single. I dont think anybody was expecting another wonderwall, but a song that would bring as much satisfaction as TDOYAM brought (to me anyway). The new song could have easily been a b-side to the last album, and you all know it. In my opinion, I heard it for about 7 times yesterday, trying to force myself to like it, but havent listened to it again since. Now that's rare for me when it comes to Oasis/Noel music. That's how bad I think the song is. I can totally get the frustration, after 4 years of nothing new. But that's not to say that his whole solo career is gonna be underwhelming. People just overreact, that's all. You don't speak for me or for many others. Stop pretending as if you do. |
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