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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Oct 15, 2014 12:39:08 GMT -5
Nope, I rate it highly. Not entirely sure, but it sounds like people can't get past the lyrics on the chorus. Sure, they aren't great, but it's the music that counts no? If I had to create a list of my top 15 post 90s Oasis songs, it'd get on it. Come at me motherfuckers  What's wrong with the lyrics of the chorus? It's an angry song and the lyrics do the job. I actually think the verse is worse "I'll make you sing like a bird released. If what you seek is the wiseman's treasure, well it's buried beneath your feet" Have always hated that bit. Nothing at all, i've always liked them, but I'm sure i've read multiple people quote that bit when they're telling everyone how the song is the unholy love child of Satan & Piers Morgan. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 15, 2014 12:40:44 GMT -5
I finally gave "In The Heat of The Moment" the car test. It passed wonderfully. Sounds terrific pumping out of the car stereo speakers. A good sign!  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 15, 2014 12:41:53 GMT -5
I think we all now Noel's best days have gone,I don't expect him to write Morning Glory again,I'm just happy he wrote it once That being said,it's not like we won't have good music from him anymore,HFB was really good and I've got the feeling Chasing Yesterday will be too,it doesn't make any sense to listen to his solo songs and think "yeah this is alright but it's not Live Forever innit?",just enjoy the fucking music I didn't expected him to write another Live Forever or Wonderwall, and i do enjoy the music. I just expected his solo career to be a bigger deal. Okay,HFB was the first album and it was well recieved (I think it's great,other people don't,but it's generally seen as a pretty good record),now there's another album coming out in March which we haven't heard yet...his solo career has just started |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 15, 2014 12:43:30 GMT -5
Far catchier than The Turning (which I never quite understood the love for) but hope it's one of the weaker, if not the weakest, song on the album. Noel did say it was a throwaway track on the radio. Though it doesn't have to be the weakest tune for me, I think it's very catchy - if it is, then we are in for a treat. In the end it's all a matter of taste anyway. What one considers a throwaway could be the other's favourite song. Oh and my last comment wasn't meant demeaning nor am I the kind of person who listens to TDOYAM and goes "hmm alright but no Live Forever". This was just an observation of the fact there have been no classics yet and why he wouldn't end up in the Hall of fame for his solo career. Of course I loved HFB and this album will probably be great, but will it have any classics on it? Will he ever write one again? I don't mind it, as I love them anyway, I was just wondering about it. I don't mind Noel not having a spectacular solo career so far either, Oasis wasn't that huge here either so whatever |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 15, 2014 12:44:24 GMT -5
Noel did say it was a throwaway track on the radio. Though it doesn't have to be the weakest tune for me, I think it's very catchy - if it is, then we are in for a treat. In the end it's all a matter of taste anyway. What one considers a throwaway could be the other's favourite song. Oh and my last comment wasn't meant demeaning nor am I the kind of person who listens to TDOYAM and goes "hmm alright but no Live Forever". This was just an observation of the fact there have been no classics yet and why he wouldn't end up in the Hall of fame for his solo career. Of course I loved HFB I was talking in general,that comment wasn't aimed at you  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 15, 2014 12:50:15 GMT -5
Accidentally pressed "create post" in the middle of a sentence hehehe
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Post by Thomas on Oct 15, 2014 13:08:35 GMT -5
Noel said that 'Ballad Of The Mighty I' is one of the best he's ever wrote. What are you guys expecting? I feel like there's a new Don't Look Back In Anger waiting for us |
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Post by carlober on Oct 15, 2014 13:13:27 GMT -5
Noel said that 'Ballad Of The Mighty I' is one of the best he's ever wrote. What are you guys expecting? I feel like there's a new Don't Look Back In Anger waiting for us Noel says that about nearly every new song he writes...  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 15, 2014 13:24:51 GMT -5
Noel said that 'Ballad Of The Mighty I' is one of the best he's ever wrote. What are you guys expecting? I feel like there's a new Don't Look Back In Anger waiting for us Noel says that about nearly every new song he writes... He seems genuinely excited about that one tho I wonder what it sounds like |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 13:32:46 GMT -5
The song is alright, but the sad part is that Noel is not going to the hall of fame with his solo carrer. He's nothing like Weller, Morrissey, Mccartney. I'm sure he always wished that but, he is just going to be the Oasis songwriter with some little solo albums later. I expected him to be even bigger after the split, always waited for his solo , but it's not going to be spectacular. I think we can all agree on that. That's what bothers kalas for example, i believe. Best days are behind him. Exactly !  ........ I said im no longer posting in these threads ,I still read, and that was my whole point , his best days are yeaterdays news sadly ,......I still say if this song was released by someone else 99.9 percent here would not be gushing about it ...it's bad to me , bad to my friends , if it was not noel most hear wouldn't be commenting on its brilliance most wouldn't even comment most like.y cause it's bland , that is the sad part , noel did so much better , but when you consider he had the first two Lps written badically before signed , his legs as a songwriter have to be questioned if your objective. He's still great to me , but as a legend , not a continuing genius ,that's long gone imo .. And hey. Nobody loves ZEP more than me , but robert plant solo lyrically was far below his Zep writing , im objective , I know crap when I hear it , be it noel , liam , plant , page , or anyone , sorry |
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Post by stevemeister on Oct 15, 2014 13:37:07 GMT -5
Well, Oasis themselves can't be placed in line with legendary bands like the Beatles to me, and let's be honest, after Be Here Now they were still big but not legendary. They had the potential to be, but they just didn't continue in the same line. Noel has written a few all time classics while in Oasis, like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Live Forever etc. And while HFB was a good album, and this new single is alright too, he hasn't written a new Wonderwall yet. And with that I don't mean a song with the same chords, I mean a song that is so universal and that everyone, no matter where you are, can sing along to. A songwriter like McCartney isn't just remembered for his work in The Beatles. He also released some all time classics during his solo career, like Maybe I'm Amazed, Live and let die, Band on the run etc. Noel hasn't. And I don't know if he has any more Wonderwalls in store for us. I can't think of one fucking classic song made by anyone that everyone can sing along too being made in the last 10-15 years. |
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Post by losingmyhead on Oct 15, 2014 13:37:19 GMT -5
The song is alright, but the sad part is that Noel is not going to the hall of fame with his solo carrer. He's nothing like Weller, Morrissey, Mccartney. I'm sure he always wished that but, he is just going to be the Oasis songwriter with some little solo albums later. I expected him to be even bigger after the split, always waited for his solo carrer, but it's not going to be spectacular. I think we can all agree on that. That's what bothers kalas for example, i believe. Best days are behind him. Talk about needing some reality pills. Of course his very best days are behind him--he's in his 40s and he's already written Morning Glory and Definitely Maybe two of the greatest albums of all time. Even if he wrote another Definitely Maybe, it still wouldn't be viewed as another Definitely Maybe because that's just the way people perceive things. Virtually noone does their best work in their 40s and 50s. 99 percent peak in their 20s and early 30s. As much as people go on about Bob Dylan's later work, it hasn't a patch on Blonde on Blonde and Highway 61 Revisited. And as much as I love me some Paul McCartney, he hasn't done anything Hall of Fame worthy since about 1975, when he was still in his early 30s. Noel turned solo in his early 40s. Big difference. And you thought Noel would be bigger than NGHFB? That album sold three quarters of a million copies in the UK, an huge amount of albums in this day and age. No sane person would have predicted any better before NGHFB came out. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 15, 2014 13:39:51 GMT -5
Noel says that about nearly every new song he writes... He seems genuinely excited about that one tho I wonder what it sounds like It sounds like Pink Floyd doing The Animals on percocets. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 15, 2014 13:40:47 GMT -5
Well, Oasis themselves can't be placed in line with legendary bands like the Beatles to me, and let's be honest, after Be Here Now they were still big but not legendary. They had the potential to be, but they just didn't continue in the same line. Noel has written a few all time classics while in Oasis, like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Live Forever etc. And while HFB was a good album, and this new single is alright too, he hasn't written a new Wonderwall yet. And with that I don't mean a song with the same chords, I mean a song that is so universal and that everyone, no matter where you are, can sing along to. A songwriter like McCartney isn't just remembered for his work in The Beatles. He also released some all time classics during his solo career, like Maybe I'm Amazed, Live and let die, Band on the run etc. Noel hasn't. And I don't know if he has any more Wonderwalls in store for us. I can't think of one fucking classic song made by anyone that everyone can sing along too being made in the last 10-15 years. Try Arcade Fire's "Wake Up". Seen it three times in an arena setting. Amazing. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 15, 2014 13:50:15 GMT -5
Noel did say it was a throwaway track on the radio. Though it doesn't have to be the weakest tune for me, I think it's very catchy - if it is, then we are in for a treat. In the end it's all a matter of taste anyway. What one considers a throwaway could be the other's favourite song. Oh and my last comment wasn't meant demeaning nor am I the kind of person who listens to TDOYAM and goes "hmm alright but no Live Forever". This was just an observation of the fact there have been no classics yet and why he wouldn't end up in the Hall of fame for his solo career. Of course I loved HFB and this album will probably be great, but will it have any classics on it? Will he ever write one again? I don't mind it, as I love them anyway, I was just wondering about it. I don't mind Noel not having a spectacular solo career so far either, Oasis wasn't that huge here either so whatever I mean Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes that everybody liked. They left that to the Bee Gees. |
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Post by icebreath on Oct 15, 2014 14:12:13 GMT -5
Well, Oasis themselves can't be placed in line with legendary bands like the Beatles to me, and let's be honest, after Be Here Now they were still big but not legendary. They had the potential to be, but they just didn't continue in the same line. Noel has written a few all time classics while in Oasis, like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Live Forever etc. And while HFB was a good album, and this new single is alright too, he hasn't written a new Wonderwall yet. And with that I don't mean a song with the same chords, I mean a song that is so universal and that everyone, no matter where you are, can sing along to. A songwriter like McCartney isn't just remembered for his work in The Beatles. He also released some all time classics during his solo career, like Maybe I'm Amazed, Live and let die, Band on the run etc. Noel hasn't. And I don't know if he has any more Wonderwalls in store for us. I can't think of one fucking classic song made by anyone that everyone can sing along too being made in the last 10-15 years. Only one song pops in mind Seven Nation Army |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 15, 2014 14:30:40 GMT -5
I can't think of one fucking classic song made by anyone that everyone can sing along too being made in the last 10-15 years. Only one song pops in mind Seven Nation Army Hey ya! - Outkast |
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Post by zigzag on Oct 15, 2014 14:51:26 GMT -5
I really do wonder what some of you do expect from Noel Gallagher?! A prog rock single? A tune with rap parts in? Noel Gallagher is a pop song writer and therefore he writes pop songs !!! This might explain why ITHOTM is a nice catchy ... tadaaa... pop song. Whats wrong with this? Nothing!
I don't want Noel Gallagher trying to repeat the 90ies or behave like a 30 year old rock n roll star. In fact I don't want him trying to write a new "rock n roll star" or "cigarettes and alcohol". I am thankful he does not. Leave those things to the youth.
Imagine the following: The new single would have been...lets say an to date unheard Stand by me. Be honest: Stand by me is an alltime Oasis-classic from the golden age. BUT if it would have been released on Tuesday for the first time most of you guys bashing Noel for his new single would also be like "Is he fuckin kidding us?!". Think about it ...
Oh, one last word regarding the dad rock thing: First, Noel is a dad. Second, why is his new single "dad rock" and why are totally overrated sleeping pills like "half the world away" or "talk tonight" not?! Because they have been written under the banner of Oasis?! Makes no sense to me.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 15, 2014 14:57:22 GMT -5
I really do wonder what some of you do expect from Noel Gallagher?! A prog rock single? A tune with rap parts in? Noel Gallagher is a pop song writer and therefore he writes pop songs !!! This might explain why ITHOTM is a nice catchy ... tadaaa... pop song. Whats wrong with this? Nothing! I don't want Noel Gallagher trying to repeat the 90ies or behave like a 30 year old rock n roll star. In fact I don't want him trying to write a new "rock n roll star" or "cigarettes and alcohol". I am thankful he does not. Leave those things to the youth. Imagine the following: The new single would have been...lets say an to date unheard Stand by me. Be honest: Stand by me is an alltime Oasis-classic from the golden age. BUT if it would have been released on Tuesday for the first time most of you guys bashing Noel for his new single would also be like "Is he fuckin kidding us?!". Think about it ... Oh, one last word regarding the dad rock thing: First, Noel is a dad. Second, why is his new single "dad rock" and why are totally overrated sleeping pills like "half the world away" or "talk tonight" not?! Because they have been written under the banner of Oasis?! Makes no sense to me. I'd rather Noel look forwards than backwards when it comes to the "sound" of his solo material. We all got tired of the nostalgia act Oasis had become between 2000 and 2008. Much like how I wanted Beady Eye to "lift" their sonic landscape on LP #2, I only wish Noel the same ambition. |
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 15, 2014 15:08:53 GMT -5
I really do wonder what some of you do expect from Noel Gallagher?! A prog rock single? A tune with rap parts in? Noel Gallagher is a pop song writer and therefore he writes pop songs !!! This might explain why ITHOTM is a nice catchy ... tadaaa... pop song. Whats wrong with this? Nothing! I don't want Noel Gallagher trying to repeat the 90ies or behave like a 30 year old rock n roll star. In fact I don't want him trying to write a new "rock n roll star" or "cigarettes and alcohol". I am thankful he does not. Leave those things to the youth. Imagine the following: The new single would have been...lets say an to date unheard Stand by me. Be honest: Stand by me is an alltime Oasis-classic from the golden age. BUT if it would have been released on Tuesday for the first time most of you guys bashing Noel for his new single would also be like "Is he fuckin kidding us?!". Think about it ... Oh, one last word regarding the dad rock thing: First, Noel is a dad. Second, why is his new single "dad rock" and why are totally overrated sleeping pills like "half the world away" or "talk tonight" not?! Because they have been written under the banner of Oasis?! Makes no sense to me. The melody just isn't there on ITHOTM, its poor. The production is good and I don't mind the "poppyness" of it, but at its heart its a poor melody and tune that doesn't go anywhere. |
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Post by spaneli on Oct 15, 2014 15:15:32 GMT -5
I didn't expected him to write another Live Forever or Wonderwall, and i do enjoy the music. I just expected his solo career to be a bigger deal. Okay,HFB was the first album and it was well recieved (I think it's great,other people don't,but it's generally seen as a pretty good record),now there's another album coming out in March which we haven't heard yet...his solo career has just started And he's playing arenas  Think about that. One solo album in and he had a double platinum and is playing to arenas. With two Top 20 hits under his belt in the UK. I think he's doing fine. The only thing I'd like to see him do is try to push for an expansion of his american fan base. I want to say he sold 16-21k records in the US last time. I'd be nice if he could get it to a solid 30-50k. Which would be a doubling of his buying audience and a LARGE jump, but it would mean that he got part of the casual American Oasis fan base to buy back in, which would give him a more sustained tour. But for his first album without the oasis name behind him he did fine for the most part. |
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Post by carlober on Oct 15, 2014 15:18:10 GMT -5
The melody just isn't there on ITHOTM, its poor. The production is good and I don't mind the "poppyness" of it, but at its heart its a poor melody and tune that doesn't go anywhere. I disagree. The melody is there and is quite good, even if it's not anything groundbreaking or experimental. Proof of this is the fact that ITHOTM works well even in acoustic, as in this excellent cover by our forum member I Built The Moon: The song doesn't go anywhere exactly like Flick Of The Finger didn't go anywhere. I don't understand... where should the songs go? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 15, 2014 15:22:31 GMT -5
Okay,HFB was the first album and it was well recieved (I think it's great,other people don't,but it's generally seen as a pretty good record),now there's another album coming out in March which we haven't heard yet...his solo career has just started And he's playing arenas Think about that. One solo album in and he had a double platinum and is playing to arenas. With two Top 20 hits under his belt in the UK. I think he's doing fine. The only thing I'd like to see him do is try to push for an expansion of his american fan base. I want to say he sold 16-21k records in the US last time. I'd be nice if he could get it to a solid 30-50k. Which would be a doubling of his buying audience and a LARGE jump, but it would mean that he got part of the casual American Oasis fan base to buy back in, which would give him a more sustained tour. But for his first album without the oasis name behind him he did fine for the most part. It would be a wise idea for Noel to link up with a larger act, sorta like what he did with Snow Patrol, and open for them in America. At least one leg like that. It's a great opportunity for new fans to discover Mr. Noel Gallagher. Opening for The Black Keys, Kings of Leon, U2, etc would be the worst ideas in the world. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Oct 15, 2014 15:25:24 GMT -5
The song doesn't go anywhere exactly like Flick Of The Finger didn't go anywhere. I don't understand... where should the songs go? exactly. this has been said numerous times with early releases. 'it doesnt go anywhere'.. where should it go?! it's not supposed to go anywhere. it's a song. what's a song that.. goes somewhere? and where the hell is that? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 15, 2014 15:39:44 GMT -5
I recently brought that point up for discussion on a Beatles forum as well. How can a song not go anywhere, what does that mean?
And dad rock is also a nonsense term. Wtf is dad rock? Rock made by dads? How is that problematic?
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