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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 22, 2014 17:50:26 GMT -5
So what do you provide ? Will it be out as Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds as well ? New tour band or the same guys ? What it would be sound like , more like What A Life experimenting or the classic Noel's songwriting ? Important, breaking album for Noel or just collection of his new songs ? Simillar to the first one or totally different ? Choir or not ? That female that was posted on fb ? Big choruses, coming back to writing hit songs or more jazzy, bluesy gentle, ambient, atmospheric songs ? Far out or just usual ? More rock n roll or less than the first one ? 100 % inspiration, passion and finding himself again as a songwriter, a totally new thing that will suprise us , or just a solid next album ? New path or just another step ? Some songs that we know from somewhere or all new ? A boom first single or quiet (listen to the trumpets) ? Producer, tracklist, fuckin artwork colour. So many questions, i personally don't know what to expect. Got a feeling it will be something a bit different than the first one though. That's not album related but i'm also guessing Noel will obviously start doing interviews by the time the album and tour start rolling and he will tell us he and Liam are texting or something and tell us some funny stories again It's gonna be all different this time. More relaxed.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 22, 2014 23:08:19 GMT -5
I expect it to be good
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 23, 2014 1:30:30 GMT -5
I don't want another dance album. But I wouldn't mind a song or two of that caliber like What A Life. I'm a fan of atmospheric songs, so I wouldn't mind a few stadium anthems either. Noel's gentle songs are always nice, it's good to have a couple of those placed in between any rockers/anthems too. Just looking for a variety I guess.
I'd prefer he doesn't put any throwaway songs on it and picks the absolute best material for each track.
I'd also like to see Noel push the boundaries of traditional rock formula. I have no idea what that might sound like, maybe something akin to an even more whacked out Gas Panic!. I just want something refreshing and preferably to the entire genre as a whole.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 23, 2014 1:51:19 GMT -5
Noel will go schlager.
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Post by shinealight on Sept 23, 2014 3:18:17 GMT -5
I wish his second album was a bit more rockier. More songs like Cmon outside, 2- 3 for ladies... 1 which will a bit unusual for Noel ( he will describe it as I ve never done this kind of song before )
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 23, 2014 5:02:14 GMT -5
A bit darker would be good and less choir.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2014 7:50:00 GMT -5
I expect 10 songs (ideally want 12).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 8:06:29 GMT -5
Same as I had for Bdi. Hope for great tunes. Expect mediocre, but of couse on here by the zealouts it will be hailed as brilliant , both have fell woefully short imo , and to be fair I felt the same about dig out your soul , Lennon2217 convinced me it's not as bad as I said , but still woefully short of oasis standard as were Bdi 2 lps and HFB last , imo so expect more mediocrity , not hating , just realistic imo
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Sept 23, 2014 9:43:16 GMT -5
So what do you provide ? Will it be out as Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds as well ? New tour band or the same guys ? What it would be sound like , more like What A Life experimenting or the classic Noel's songwriting ? Important, breaking album for Noel or just collection of his new songs ? Simillar to the first one or totally different ? Choir or not ?  That female that was posted on fb ? Big choruses, coming back to writing hit songs or more jazzy, bluesy gentle, ambient, atmospheric songs ? Far out or just usual ? More rock n roll or less than the first one ?  100 % inspiration, passion and finding himself again as a songwriter, a totally new thing that will suprise us , or just a solid next album ?  New path or just another step ? Some songs that we know from somewhere or all new ? A boom first single or quiet (listen to the trumpets) ? Producer, tracklist, fuckin artwork colour. So many questions, i personally don't know what to expect. Got a feeling it will be something a bit different than the first one though. That's not album related but i'm also guessing Noel will obviously start doing interviews by the time the album and tour start rolling and he will tell us he and Liam are texting or something and tell us some funny stories again It's gonna be all different this time. More relaxed. Most questions ever in a forum post
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Post by spaneli on Sept 23, 2014 12:19:29 GMT -5
A bit darker would be good and less choir. I think this has the best chance of happening. We haven't heard much about Noel using the Crouch End choir this time around. Also, there was the picture of Noel spotted outside his studio with a synth and it's likely that the singer who sung on Let the Lord Shine on a Light on me will probably be on one album track with Noel (her voice fits a darker tone). Lastly, we only know of one songs that might have strings. I believe this album will be less grand. The first album Noel was very conscious of trying to have the full band experience while being a solo artist. I think for his first album he was afraid of it being too bare. Of it being too much of himself. He went for the things that he knew would work because he knew his debut album would set the tone through him keeping the Oasis fanbase (he learned from Beady Eye's mistake with DGSS). However, this time around, the pressure is off. He has his hit album. He's established himself as a solo artist and has gotten back to arena level. I don't think he'll feel as much need to make every song grander or greater in scope. I think this will be a more intimate album and not intimate in the sense of straight acoustic numbers, but darker and less choir as you put it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2014 12:24:22 GMT -5
A bit darker would be good and less choir. I think this has the best chance of happening. We haven't heard much about Noel using the Crouch End choir this time around. Also, there was the picture of Noel spotted outside his studio with a synth and it's likely that the singer who sung on Let the Lord Shine on a Light on me will probably be on one album track with Noel (her voice fits a darker tone). Lastly, we only know of one songs that might have strings. I believe this album will be less grand. The first album Noel was very conscious of trying to have the full band experience while being a solo artist. I think for his first album he was afraid of it being too bare. Of it being too much of himself. He went for the things that he knew would work because he knew his debut album would set the tone through him keeping the Oasis fanbase (he learned from Beady Eye's mistake with DGSS). However, this time around, the pressure is off. He has his hit album. He's established himself as a solo artist and has gotten back to arena level. I don't think he'll feel as much need to make every song grander or greater in scope. I think this will be a more intimate album and not intimate in the sense of straight acoustic numbers, but darker and less choir as you put it. I'm kinda over the female backing singing we heard on Falling Down, What A Life, Shoot A Hole Into The Sun and Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 23, 2014 12:32:18 GMT -5
I think this has the best chance of happening. We haven't heard much about Noel using the Crouch End choir this time around. Also, there was the picture of Noel spotted outside his studio with a synth and it's likely that the singer who sung on Let the Lord Shine on a Light on me will probably be on one album track with Noel (her voice fits a darker tone). Lastly, we only know of one songs that might have strings. I believe this album will be less grand. The first album Noel was very conscious of trying to have the full band experience while being a solo artist. I think for his first album he was afraid of it being too bare. Of it being too much of himself. He went for the things that he knew would work because he knew his debut album would set the tone through him keeping the Oasis fanbase (he learned from Beady Eye's mistake with DGSS). However, this time around, the pressure is off. He has his hit album. He's established himself as a solo artist and has gotten back to arena level. I don't think he'll feel as much need to make every song grander or greater in scope. I think this will be a more intimate album and not intimate in the sense of straight acoustic numbers, but darker and less choir as you put it. I'm kinda over the female backing singing we heard on Falling Down, What A Life, Shoot A Hole Into The Sun and Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me. Yes, but those are completely different cases. Falling Down, What a Life and Shoot a Hole in the Sun were completely AA. The female vocals were just typical "psychedelic" cliches. Like, seriously idiotic cliches. I thought the vocals and the purpose of the vocals on Let the Lord Shine a Light on me were far more effective than the previous three. Mainly because it wasn't just slapped on as this is "psychedelic", so let's put it on and repeat it a million times over a period of 7-22 minutes. But I'm more than fine with what Noel himself did with the placement and purpose of the female vocal on Let the Lord Shine a Light on me.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2014 12:36:31 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the female backing singing we heard on Falling Down, What A Life, Shoot A Hole Into The Sun and Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me. Yes, but those are completely different cases. Falling Down, What a Life and Shoot a Hole in the Sun were completely AA. The female vocals were just typical "psychedelic" cliches. Like, seriously idiotic cliches. I thought the vocals and the purpose of the vocals on Let the Lord Shine a Light on me were far more effective than the previous three. Mainly because it wasn't just slapped on as this is "psychedelic", so let's put it on and repeat it a million times over a period of 7-22 minutes. But I'm more than fine with what Noel himself did with the placement and purpose of the female vocal on Let the Lord Shine a Light on me. Be that as it may I'm still over with hearing more of it on any potential material moving forward. This reminds me some what of when Noel got hung up with the fake choirs.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 23, 2014 12:50:21 GMT -5
Yes, but those are completely different cases. Falling Down, What a Life and Shoot a Hole in the Sun were completely AA. The female vocals were just typical "psychedelic" cliches. Like, seriously idiotic cliches. I thought the vocals and the purpose of the vocals on Let the Lord Shine a Light on me were far more effective than the previous three. Mainly because it wasn't just slapped on as this is "psychedelic", so let's put it on and repeat it a million times over a period of 7-22 minutes. But I'm more than fine with what Noel himself did with the placement and purpose of the female vocal on Let the Lord Shine a Light on me. Be that as it may I'm still over with hearing more of it on any potential material moving forward. This reminds me some what of when Noel got hung up with the fake choirs. Maybe? The fake choir kind of falls into the AA argument. Slapping on fake choirs for the sake of having a fake choir. I'm far more into the intent and purpose than the actual thing being used, whether it's female vocals or fake choirs.I mean, he could decide to do a song with flugelhorns, sequenced synth patterns, and a keytar, but it wouldn't matter if he's just slapping it on with no intent. I'll take female vocals on future material if it's done with the right intent and purpose rather than just being slapped on.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2014 12:52:28 GMT -5
Be that as it may I'm still over with hearing more of it on any potential material moving forward. This reminds me some what of when Noel got hung up with the fake choirs. Maybe? The fake choir kind of falls into the AA argument. Slapping on fake choirs for the sake of having a fake choir. I'm far more into the intent and purpose than the actual thing being used, whether it's female vocals or fake choirs.I mean, he could decide to do a song with flugelhorns, sequenced synth patterns, and a keytar, but it wouldn't matter if he's just slapping it on with no intent. I'll take female vocals on future material if it's done with the right intent and purpose rather than just being slapped on. I guess my opinion would be different if we didn't already hear it so many times between 2008 and now. I'm all down for if it is used correctly.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 23, 2014 13:17:40 GMT -5
Darker you say, never thought about that, could be.
I was listening to Burt Bacharach a bit yesterday and i thought i'd love more piano on the record, like Idler's Dream for example. Of course he's always thinking ahead of touring and i can't imagine Noel sitting by the piano or standing still without the guitar but i don't know if i wouldn't rather him to do it Bowie's way which is no touring but to whatever you want in the studio and make a brilliant record with no musical limits.
I'm not too much into Noel's "rocking" songs like Force Of Nature or Stranded On The Wrong Beach. Leave that to his brother. I prefer him in slower, more complicated songs, nostalgic. For today i wish the album was warm, slow, good produced and Mccartneyish. Not over produced, no choir. Piano. Quiet and gentle. To sound good on vinyl.
For Noel's songwriting talent and his voice there is still so much great things to do if he go that direction. His solo career can be like Morrissey's, a whole new chapter, he can go far from Oasis here. Just no Russel Brand in videos. More control of it. Make it more serious and mature. Just look at Smiths and Morrissey's path. He can learn a lot from him. Or Mark Lanegan. There are a few examples. To be a succesful globaly recognizaible solo artist after a band split is a skill. But Noel has all ingredients to do it perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 13:33:21 GMT -5
A bit darker would be good and less choir. I think this has the best chance of happening. We haven't heard much about Noel using the Crouch End choir this time around. Also, there was the picture of Noel spotted outside his studio with a synth and it's likely that the singer who sung on Let the Lord Shine on a Light on me will probably be on one album track with Noel (her voice fits a darker tone). Lastly, we only know of one songs that might have strings. I believe this album will be less grand. The first album Noel was very conscious of trying to have the full band experience while being a solo artist. I think for his first album he was afraid of it being too bare. Of it being too much of himself. He went for the things that he knew would work because he knew his debut album would set the tone through him keeping the Oasis fanbase (he learned from Beady Eye's mistake with DGSS). However, this time around, the pressure is off. He has his hit album. He's established himself as a solo artist and has gotten back to arena level. I don't think he'll feel as much need to make every song grander or greater in scope. I think this will be a more intimate album and not intimate in the sense of straight acoustic numbers, but darker and less choir as you put it. good post Spaneli, got a fair few right there Crouch End have not been involved, unless they got involved right at the very end Joy Rose has recorded another track
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Post by Jailbird on Sept 23, 2014 13:38:45 GMT -5
I expect it to have 11 tracks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:10:26 GMT -5
I want more guitar-based music personally, it would be great if Noel could go back to his roots with this one. Every song seemed to have the same lighthearted instrumentation on the last album, which was just a little bit too radio-friendly for my liking.
More tunes in the same vein as 'Waiting For The Rapture', 'The Shock Of The Lighting' and (dare I say it) 'Cigarettes & Alcohol' would be great. I'm sure Noel still has a few of 'em left in him!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:14:18 GMT -5
Not related to the album I know but if he could refrain from playing 'Don't Look Back In Anger' completely at every non stadium or festival gig on the tour then I'd be a very happy chap. That's assuming there will be a tour... *strokes cat*
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 23, 2014 18:59:09 GMT -5
One honest thing and i mean it. If he don't change the drummer and will stay with this guy, now that's the demention already, he's not thinking clearly anymore and i don't trust him, he's like James Hetfield for me then, he's too old for rock n roll. I'm making Beady Eye tatoo on my neck the day i find out this guy plays on the record. Seriously.
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Post by Manualex on Sept 23, 2014 21:05:45 GMT -5
To be released in this year or the first half of the next one. Other than that I don't feel entitled to expect a thing from NG anymore. That way the music will talk to me. Sorry if it sounds pretentious, but this is a way I experience music better than expecting something and getting a curveball and striking out.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 24, 2014 1:32:51 GMT -5
Not related to the album I know but if he could refrain from playing 'Don't Look Back In Anger' completely at every non stadium or festival gig on the tour then I'd be a very happy chap. That's assuming there will be a tour... *strokes cat* No. I must and will hear this song live before I die.
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Post by ledlunar on Sept 24, 2014 3:04:52 GMT -5
1 Scorpio rising a song like this but better & weirder 2 something instinct and awesome like Supersonic but not like Shock of the lightning 3 who feels love a song like this but better that you can smoke a joint in the sun too and relax 4 dying of the light (hope it makes it rework the lyrics a tad and make it a bit atmosheric I'd love Johnny Marr on this one) 5 something heavier than he has ever done before. Something that could be 6-7 minutes and really transform w/ lots of instruments layered to hell by the end 6 gas panic a song like this but better.. eerie and atmospheric & takes off into a cool direction towards something like "bag it up" meets Pow. R Toc. H off pink Floyd's "piper at the gates of dawn" 7 something light and refreshing I imagine a waterfall but a tall skinny one with bongo drums also I kind of imagine "wots... uh the deal" by pink Floyd from obscured by clouds 8 let forever be something like this but better w/lots of horns and weird loops 9 what a life something like it but better & more fun something that could get played on the radio here in Canada so I can hear something descent on the radio 10 alone on a rope something like it but better I just love this song I think it's great but I want it's big sister song a bit cooler but I love the style which noel sings on AOTR 11 let it come down over me I would like this to close the album tie song 7 into it lyrically but this will be more introspective ender before 12 reprise of #5 bam I love reprise songs I don't even like "all around the world" I just like when albums leave on a boom. Give us 3 minutes of smashing
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Post by ledlunar on Sept 24, 2014 3:07:03 GMT -5
^ I mean I don't like "all around the world" but I like the reprise
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