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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 2, 2015 16:39:32 GMT -5
It makes more sense to release this in 2017, but that's too long and strange. "Hey we're going to re-release our first three albums, but we're going to release 2 of them in 2014 and the other one 3 years later" If releasing this would mean it'd get in the way of another Noel album, then forget it. If I had to choose I'd pick a new Noel album over this. I just don't get Noel or his people (management). He says they can only handle one release at a time. What year is it 1958? Gimme a break Noel. Also its not gonna impact sales of CY. We are all going to buy it regardless of when the release date falls. Just get it the fuck out already. I don't get them anyway. There are some things they've handled very poorly. Also, CY's been out for almost a year already. It won't do much anymore (although it did make a big leap in the album top 100). If anything I think this reissue could help CY's sales. Anyway, about this reissue, how would they go about it? They announced it'd be the first 3 right? And then they released DM and MG. Would be strange to just release BHN now, one and a half years later. Also would be weird to have this campaign just for one album, and this album too, which doesn't have the greatest reputation. On the other hand, Christmas is near. It would be smart to do something with that.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2015 16:40:43 GMT -5
It makes more sense to release this in 2017, but that's too long and strange. "Hey we're going to re-release our first three albums, but we're going to release 2 of them in 2014 and the other one 3 years later" If releasing this would mean it'd get in the way of another Noel album, then forget it. If I had to choose I'd pick a new Noel album over this. I just don't get Noel or his people (management). He says they can only handle one release at a time. What year is it 1958? Gimme a break Noel. Also its not gonna impact sales of CY. We are all going to buy it regardless of when the release date falls. Just get it the fuck out already. well like we know we can't trust anything that he says re: this subject its all lies. If his 'office' cant manage more than one release after all their experience with big releases (as oasis / big brother), how running an 'indie label' so expensive etc. How do these smaller acts do it that don't sell millions of records and sell out arenas / good sized venues around the world?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 2, 2015 16:47:53 GMT -5
I just don't get Noel or his people (management). He says they can only handle one release at a time. What year is it 1958? Gimme a break Noel. Also its not gonna impact sales of CY. We are all going to buy it regardless of when the release date falls. Just get it the fuck out already. I don't get them anyway. There are some things they've handled very poorly. Also, CY's been out for almost a year already. It won't do much anymore (although it did make a big leap in the album top 100). If anything I think this reissue could help CY's sales. Anyway, about this reissue, how would they go about it? They announced it'd be the first 3 right? And then they released DM and MG. Would be strange to just release BHN now, one and a half years later. Also would be weird to have this campaign just for one album, and this album too, which doesn't have the greatest reputation. On the other hand, Christmas is near. It would be smart to do something with that. They all should have come out in 2014. It is weird to do BHN 3 years later. Outside Oasis fans, there is no cries for a Be Here Now reissue. Shit, most people probably would have been fine with no DM or MG reissue either. Those are the "classics" that casual music fans might own. If you aren't hardcore, you don't listen to Be Here Now in 2015.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 2, 2015 16:49:13 GMT -5
I just don't get Noel or his people (management). He says they can only handle one release at a time. What year is it 1958? Gimme a break Noel. Also its not gonna impact sales of CY. We are all going to buy it regardless of when the release date falls. Just get it the fuck out already. well like we know we can't trust anything that he says re: this subject its all lies. If his 'office' cant manage more than one release after all their experience with big releases (as oasis / big brother), how running an 'indie label' so expensive etc. How do these smaller acts do it that don't sell millions of records and sell out arenas / good sized venues around the world? Noel's Definitely Full of Shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 16:51:21 GMT -5
if they released this in 2017 and it was a remastered album on disc one, an edited album on disc 2 and the demos on disc 3 then.... If they released this in 2017 with an average remaster on disc 1 and disc 2 / disc 3 is filled with the same lazy assed extras as the other two resissues then..... just about sums up my expectations.
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Post by morning_rain on Nov 2, 2015 17:07:25 GMT -5
Thanks so much everyone for bumping this thread. Brilliant.
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Post by asimarx on Nov 2, 2015 17:11:01 GMT -5
I just don't get Noel or his people (management). He says they can only handle one release at a time. What year is it 1958? Gimme a break Noel. Also its not gonna impact sales of CY. We are all going to buy it regardless of when the release date falls. Just get it the fuck out already. I don't get them anyway. There are some things they've handled very poorly. Also, CY's been out for almost a year already. It won't do much anymore (although it did make a big leap in the album top 100). If anything I think this reissue could help CY's sales. Anyway, about this reissue, how would they go about it? They announced it'd be the first 3 right? And then they released DM and MG. Would be strange to just release BHN now, one and a half years later. Also would be weird to have this campaign just for one album, and this album too, which doesn't have the greatest reputation. On the other hand, Christmas is near. It would be smart to do something with that. Agreed. The reissue would have fitted perfectly into Noel's CY touring break for this year's christmas. It's too late now anyway. They should have scheduled the radio/Royal Albert Hall shows and the TDOTL single release for early next year to built up momentum for the world tour. Like you said, a Be Here Now reissue and the media coverage surrounding it, would have surely helped to promote CY just as well, if not better, than a a couple of shows and a fifth single that's probably just plodding along with poor airplay on the radio.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2015 17:21:29 GMT -5
I don't get them anyway. There are some things they've handled very poorly. Also, CY's been out for almost a year already. It won't do much anymore (although it did make a big leap in the album top 100). If anything I think this reissue could help CY's sales. Anyway, about this reissue, how would they go about it? They announced it'd be the first 3 right? And then they released DM and MG. Would be strange to just release BHN now, one and a half years later. Also would be weird to have this campaign just for one album, and this album too, which doesn't have the greatest reputation. On the other hand, Christmas is near. It would be smart to do something with that. Agreed. The reissue would have fitted perfectly into Noel's CY touring break for this year's christmas. It's too late now anyway. They should have scheduled the radio/Royal Albert Hall shows and the TDOTL single release for early next year to built up momentum for the world tour. Like you said, a Be Here Now reissue and the media coverage surrounding it, would have surely helped to promote CY just as well, if not better, than a a couple of shows and a fifth single that's probably just plodding along with poor airplay on the radio. As i wrote in the new docu thread as that (potentially) see's oasis go from pre DM to Knebworth then its obv been held back to fit the knebworth bluray, the docu/film and the Be here now remaster all into some combination last 1/2 of 2016 (i'd guess). Releasing as that package will create a lot of hype.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 17:24:10 GMT -5
I don't understand why Noel agreed with the whole Chasing the Sun thing. He knew he was working on an album.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2015 17:27:28 GMT -5
I don't understand why Noel agreed with the whole Chasing the Sun thing. He knew he was working on an album. i don't believe thats the issue personally i think the reissues didnt quite make the impact/sales they thought they would. Instead of 'wasting' Be here now they've saved it to another time where they can raise more momentum for releases
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Post by jupi on Nov 2, 2015 17:46:56 GMT -5
Thanks so much everyone for bumping this thread. Brilliant. Fun. Nice. Youth. Beautiful. I'm all for it!.
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Post by spud on Nov 2, 2015 17:55:41 GMT -5
There's no way this will still happen. The previous two reissues probably didn't sell as well as expected and then Chasing Yesterday coming out was the scapegoat they were looking for.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 2, 2015 18:44:42 GMT -5
There's no way this will still happen. The previous two reissues probably didn't sell as well as expected and then Chasing Yesterday coming out was the scapegoat they were looking for.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 2, 2015 22:15:04 GMT -5
There's no way this will still happen. The previous two reissues probably didn't sell as well as expected and then Chasing Yesterday coming out was the scapegoat they were looking for. This has got to be the funniest thing I've seen on the forum in a long time.
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Post by carryusall on Nov 2, 2015 22:28:03 GMT -5
I never understood why they'd reissue Be Here Now anyway. Only we would buy it. There's no market for it. It's just not going to come out. iT's been covered pretty well already, but it's been too long a gap,just put us our of our misery ignition
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 3, 2015 1:43:02 GMT -5
I can't help but think that the reason why this hasn't been released yet is because Noel hates BHN. From that, we can deduce that the HC reissue is confirmed for a 2022 release.
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Post by mossy on Nov 3, 2015 1:43:47 GMT -5
I don't understand why Noel agreed with the whole Chasing the Sun thing. He knew he was working on an album. The pension fund doesn't pay into itself! In the Facebook interview he sounded pretty uninvolved with the reissues and described them as "money for old rope."
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 3, 2015 11:46:26 GMT -5
I don't understand why Noel agreed with the whole Chasing the Sun thing. He knew he was working on an album. The pension fund doesn't pay into itself! In the Facebook interview he sounded pretty uninvolved with the reissues and described them as "money for old rope." You know you've seen serious money from a career when a $20M/£12M pension fund that increases yearly through careful investment simply isn't enough to sustain a lifestyle In all seriousness it's very easy for anyone in his position to simply to remain in the background for these sort of projects and simply collect the due royalties every three months.
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Post by mossy on Nov 7, 2015 5:05:48 GMT -5
The pension fund doesn't pay into itself! In the Facebook interview he sounded pretty uninvolved with the reissues and described them as "money for old rope." You know you've seen serious money from a career when a $20M/£12M pension fund that increases yearly through careful investment simply isn't enough to sustain a lifestyle In all seriousness it's very easy for anyone in his position to simply to remain in the background for these sort of projects and simply collect the due royalties every three months. I was being a bit facetious with that pension comment. I'm sure it's actually Noel's whole management team who pushed for the reissues thinking about their own pension funds!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2015 6:14:28 GMT -5
You know you've seen serious money from a career when a $20M/£12M pension fund that increases yearly through careful investment simply isn't enough to sustain a lifestyle In all seriousness it's very easy for anyone in his position to simply to remain in the background for these sort of projects and simply collect the due royalties every three months. I was being a bit facetious with that pension comment. I'm sure it's actually Noel's whole management team who pushed for the reissues thinking about their own pension funds! Yeah, if there's money to be made then someone will put it out. Its a shame that he won't put more into them. They already add little to Oasis and yet they can really add to a bands or artists history (See Dylan's anthology series).
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Post by mossy on Nov 7, 2015 6:22:41 GMT -5
I was being a bit facetious with that pension comment. I'm sure it's actually Noel's whole management team who pushed for the reissues thinking about their own pension funds! Yeah, if there's money to be made then someone will put it out. Its a shame that he won't put more into them. They already add little to Oasis and yet they can really add to a bands or artists history (See Dylan's anthology series). The Dylan bootleg series is awesome. We need the equivalent of the 1-3 box set for Oasis.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2015 6:35:13 GMT -5
Yeah, if there's money to be made then someone will put it out. Its a shame that he won't put more into them. They already add little to Oasis and yet they can really add to a bands or artists history (See Dylan's anthology series). The Dylan bootleg series is awesome. We need the equivalent of the 1-3 box set for Oasis. That would be amazing, unfortunately the people at ignition putting the reissues together don't seem to be anywhere the same intelligence or thoughtfulness of Dylan's people. Even in there love for the actual subject of them. I mean the live tracks on the MG reissue Its just shoddy isn't it.
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 7, 2015 6:44:16 GMT -5
The Dylan bootleg series is awesome. We need the equivalent of the 1-3 box set for Oasis. That would be amazing, unfortunately the people at ignition putting the reissues together don't seem to be anywhere the same intelligence or thoughtfulness of Dylan's people. Even in there love for the actual subject of them. I mean the live tracks on the MG reissue Its just shoddy isn't it. The dylan bootleg series is brilliant, I picked up his new one yesterday. Covering Bringing it all back home / highway 61 / blonde on blonde. The collectors edition has no fewer than 18 discs!! I just got the best of 2 disc set. Imagine a DM / MG / BHN set of out-takes rehearsals and unreleased tracks. My head would explode I think.
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Post by space75gr on Nov 7, 2015 7:22:19 GMT -5
Be Here Now is a a classic, an amazing oasis album, an amazing album, a 9/10 and Noel is a c*nt for slagging it off and not releasin' the BHN Reissue.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 7, 2015 9:26:19 GMT -5
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