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Post by mystoryisgory on May 7, 2020 12:51:11 GMT -5
Also, it's high time we killed the Urban Hymns worship. Yes, it's a good record, but it's nothing compared to the savage, primal maelstrom of records that came before it. Plus, it's two or three songs too long and weighed down by the excess of Richard solo tunes as opposed to actual band grooves. The back half before Come On especially drags because of this. Worst of all, it cemented people's perception of The Verve as a ballad band instead of the raging psychedelic monsters they more often were. And then Richard became convinced that The Verve's genius was solely due to him instead of decentralized collaboration between members of a band. Urban Hymns is a good album, don't get me wrong, but it's very much undeserving of its massive acclaim, especially when A Storm in Heaven and A Northern Soul are always overlooked.
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2020 13:06:08 GMT -5
I hated it on first listen but Love Is Noise is a fantastic song, and by far the greatest thing Ashcroft has written on his own since Urban Hymns. It's brilliant. Obviously Nick had a lot to do with making the songs what they are but when figuring out to play Verve tunes it's brilliant as as soon as you realise that (stripping it down to an acoustic) these sprawling songs are usually just 3-4 chords repeated over and over it's easy to get the hang of. Ashcroft's greatest skill is being able to make choruses out of verse melodies. Bittersweet Symphony, Lucky Man, Rather Be, Love Is Noise, This Is Music, A New Decade, Are You Ready etc, and there's loads more, all just 3-4 chord songs that hardly change but they still work.
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2020 13:11:48 GMT -5
Also, it's high time we killed the Urban Hymns worship. Yes, it's a good record, but it's nothing compared to the savage, primal maelstrom of records that came before it. Plus, it's two or three songs too long and weighed down by the excess of Richard solo tunes as opposed to actual band grooves. The back half before Come On especially drags because of this. Worst of all, it cemented people's perception of The Verve as a ballad band instead of the raging psychedelic monsters they more often were. And then Richard became convinced that The Verve's genius was solely due to him instead of decentralized collaboration between members of a band. Urban Hymns is a good album, don't get me wrong, but it's very much undeserving of its massive acclaim, especially when A Storm in Heaven and A Northern Soul are always overlooked. Oh I don't know mate. I agree on the length (though Come On is 15 minutes!) but it's a great album. I love both of their first two albums. Love them. But Urban Hymns is great in its own right. Every song on there is worthy of its place even though I agree that one or two could have been left as b-sides (and great b-sides they would be). I can't even knock Ashcroft because at the end of the day the songs he was writing around that time have stood the test of time - a lot of them ended up being his best solo work, too (C'mon People, A Song For The Lovers, New York, Brave New World, Lord I've Been Trying, Are You Ready etc). In isolation (no pun intended!) it is a fantastic album.
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2020 13:13:45 GMT -5
Look at some of the other tunes knocking about at that time too (along with those I've listed):
Wednesday Madness, Oh Sister, All Ways Are Maybes, Monte Carlo, This Could Be My Moment.
An absolute peak.
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Post by glider on May 7, 2020 13:42:51 GMT -5
I hated it on first listen but Love Is Noise is a fantastic song, and by far the greatest thing Ashcroft has written on his own since Urban Hymns. He didn't really write Love Is Noise in terms of songwriting-wise, the track stemmed from the Columbo jam initially and he just added lyrics to it like he's done for years with all the Verve-penned tunes. The "songwriting" credit that was placed on it was for him to get more royalties or some nonsense. Aside from Appalachian Springs, the tracks he brought to the Forth sessions were very poor - the rest of band's masterful musicianship elevate Richard's mediocrity on tracks like Vallium Skies to sound like textured, spacey songs.
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Post by glider on May 7, 2020 13:51:23 GMT -5
Also, it's high time we killed the Urban Hymns worship. Yes, it's a good record, but it's nothing compared to the savage, primal maelstrom of records that came before it. Plus, it's two or three songs too long and weighed down by the excess of Richard solo tunes as opposed to actual band grooves. The back half before Come On especially drags because of this. Worst of all, it cemented people's perception of The Verve as a ballad band instead of the raging psychedelic monsters they more often were. And then Richard became convinced that The Verve's genius was solely due to him instead of decentralized collaboration between members of a band. Urban Hymns is a good album, don't get me wrong, but it's very much undeserving of its massive acclaim, especially when A Storm in Heaven and A Northern Soul are always overlooked. Oh I don't know mate. I agree on the length (though Come On is 15 minutes!) but it's a great album. I love both of their first two albums. Love them. But Urban Hymns is great in its own right. Every song on there is worthy of its place even though I agree that one or two could have been left as b-sides (and great b-sides they would be). I can't even knock Ashcroft because at the end of the day the songs he was writing around that time have stood the test of time - a lot of them ended up being his best solo work, too (C'mon People, A Song For The Lovers, New York, Brave New World, Lord I've Been Trying, Are You Ready etc). In isolation (no pun intended!) it is a fantastic album. As much as Urban Hymns is a downgrade in being a full scale onslaught of pure Verve songs, its a masterful pop record, mixed in with just enough substance of what made the Verve great to begin with. For every Drugs Don't Work and Sonnet, you still get Catching the Butterfly, Come On, The Rolling People and Neon Wilderness, etc. and the psychedelic brillance of the band cannot be understated on Lucky Man - combining Richard's songwriting with otherworldly guitarwork. Everyone who knows about the band know that if Richard didn't bring Nick back, Urban Hymns would've been a failure. Nick even gave the input to have the string intro at the beginning of Bitter Sweet Symphony, stated in this interview from the 20th anniversary release: (start at 16 minute mark)
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Post by mystoryisgory on May 7, 2020 14:29:45 GMT -5
I hated it on first listen but Love Is Noise is a fantastic song, and by far the greatest thing Ashcroft has written on his own since Urban Hymns. He didn't really write Love Is Noise in terms of songwriting-wise, the track stemmed from the Columbo jam initially and he just added lyrics to it like he's done for years with all the Verve-penned tunes. The "songwriting" credit that was placed on it was for him to get more royalties or some nonsense. Aside from Appalachian Springs, the tracks he brought to the Forth sessions were very poor - the rest of band's masterful musicianship elevate Richard's mediocrity on tracks like Vallium Skies to sound like textured, spacey songs. Interesting, didn't know it was mostly a band-written tune! What a shameless hypocrite Richard is for stealing songwriting royalties from the rest of the band while at the same time complaining that Jagger/Richards stole Bittersweet Symphony from him.
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Post by mystoryisgory on May 7, 2020 14:55:02 GMT -5
Oh I don't know mate. I agree on the length (though Come On is 15 minutes!) but it's a great album. I love both of their first two albums. Love them. But Urban Hymns is great in its own right. Every song on there is worthy of its place even though I agree that one or two could have been left as b-sides (and great b-sides they would be). I can't even knock Ashcroft because at the end of the day the songs he was writing around that time have stood the test of time - a lot of them ended up being his best solo work, too (C'mon People, A Song For The Lovers, New York, Brave New World, Lord I've Been Trying, Are You Ready etc). In isolation (no pun intended!) it is a fantastic album. As much as Urban Hymns is a downgrade in being a full scale onslaught of pure Verve songs, its a masterful pop record, mixed in with just enough substance of what made the Verve great to begin with. For every Drugs Don't Work and Sonnet, you still get Catching the Butterfly, Come On, The Rolling People and Neon Wilderness, etc. and the psychedelic brillance of the band cannot be understated on Lucky Man - combining Richard's songwriting with otherworldly guitarwork. Everyone who knows about the band know that if Richard didn't bring Nick back, Urban Hymns would've been a failure. Nick even gave the input to have the string intro at the beginning of Bitter Sweet Symphony, stated in this interview from the 20th anniversary release: (start at 16 minute mark)
Defo agree that Lucky Man is the best example of The Verve making a Richard solo tune into something great. I'd say that Weeping Willow is also up there in that regard. But tbh, while I know Nick has his fingerprints all over Urban Hymns in nonobvious ways and it wouldn't be a good record without him, I still wish that full-band songs like Rolling People, Catching the Butterfly, Come On, Neon Wilderness were more than just a fourth of the record. The Verve were always better as the post-rock band with a singer that Nick McCabe once described them as. Had Urban Hymns looked like this, it would've been truer to the psychedelic grooves of their earlier work.
1. Bittersweet Symphony 2. Three Steps 3. Weeping Willow 4. King Riff 2
5. All Ways Are Maybes 6. Stamped 7. The Rolling People 8. Catching the Butterfly 9. Echo Bass 10. Lucky Man 11. Come On
Is this better than the Urban Hymns we got? Maybe or maybe not, but at the very least it feels like a 100% Verve album and not half Verve and half Richard debut solo album.
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2020 15:43:28 GMT -5
Been wanting to figure out Catching The Butterfly (acoustic) for ages. I don't have an electric guitar and the tabs online are either for that or the chords seem properly off.
Was determined to do it last week and had a loose working of it figured in about 10 mins after all that. Just tuned my guitar down half a step and play an A (lift off to A7) to Dsus2 (hammer on for D) for the verses and then just do an A-C/G-D(554030)-A for the chorus/refrain whatever it is.
It won't be 'right' obviously but it sounds good to my ear and works when playing along to the record.
If anyone does know the actual chords then feel free to let me know, haha!
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Post by Jack on May 7, 2020 16:05:13 GMT -5
'Jalfrezi' might be my favourite Verve tune. How did this not end up as a released b-side?
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2020 17:08:26 GMT -5
'Jalfrezi' might be my favourite Verve tune. How did this not end up as a released b-side? Another one from those Urban Hymns sessions. Stand by it - it's a band at their peak. Regardless if the output ended up being weighted to Ashcroft's penned stuff, they're still Verve songs to me (and brilliant ones at that).
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Post by glider on May 7, 2020 19:36:46 GMT -5
As much as Urban Hymns is a downgrade in being a full scale onslaught of pure Verve songs, its a masterful pop record, mixed in with just enough substance of what made the Verve great to begin with. For every Drugs Don't Work and Sonnet, you still get Catching the Butterfly, Come On, The Rolling People and Neon Wilderness, etc. and the psychedelic brillance of the band cannot be understated on Lucky Man - combining Richard's songwriting with otherworldly guitarwork. Everyone who knows about the band know that if Richard didn't bring Nick back, Urban Hymns would've been a failure. Nick even gave the input to have the string intro at the beginning of Bitter Sweet Symphony, stated in this interview from the 20th anniversary release: (start at 16 minute mark)
Defo agree that Lucky Man is the best example of The Verve making a Richard solo tune into something great. I'd say that Weeping Willow is also up there in that regard. But tbh, while I know Nick has his fingerprints all over Urban Hymns in nonobvious ways and it wouldn't be a good record without him, I still wish that full-band songs like Rolling People, Catching the Butterfly, Come On, Neon Wilderness were more than just a fourth of the record. The Verve were always better as the post-rock band with a singer that Nick McCabe once described them as. Had Urban Hymns looked like this, it would've been truer to the psychedelic grooves of their earlier work.
1. Bittersweet Symphony 2. Three Steps 3. Weeping Willow 4. King Riff 2
5. All Ways Are Maybes 6. Stamped 7. The Rolling People 8. Catching the Butterfly 9. Echo Bass 10. Lucky Man 11. Come On
Is this better than the Urban Hymns we got? Maybe or maybe not, but at the very least it feels like a 100% Verve album and not half Verve and half Richard debut solo album.
Everything here is amazing music, but it just doesn't flow as well I find. I consider Urban Hymns 100 percent a Verve album. Nick's contributions to Ashcroft's tracks cannot be understated. Weeping Willow was transformed from what probably was a lukewarm ballad with great lyrics to a dirty ambient, ethereal juggernaut. The Drugs Don't Work with the haunting slide guitar effects, Sonnet's guitar solo, the Lucky Man ambient, the licks on This Time (listen to the BeatNick mix). Si's basswork is the 2nd best of his career (his work on Forth is unreal, steals the show in some areas on that album, see Columbo, Love Is Noise, etc.), Pete's a great drummer in his own right as well, one of the underrated ones from the British rock scene of the 90s, and Si Tong's contributions on keys and made major changes in the way the songs sounded (Nick and Si have their guitar parts on two different channels for instance on Sonnet and Lucky Man (Nick on the left for the majority of the time, Si Tong on the right). Urban Hymns is the prime example of why Richard solo could never, ever reach the height of what was done on it. Richard for two decades has been chasing the success of his Urban Hymns output, thinking its brillance was all him, but not realizing how much of a support foundation the rest of the band was.
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Post by glider on May 7, 2020 19:40:54 GMT -5
He didn't really write Love Is Noise in terms of songwriting-wise, the track stemmed from the Columbo jam initially and he just added lyrics to it like he's done for years with all the Verve-penned tunes. The "songwriting" credit that was placed on it was for him to get more royalties or some nonsense. Aside from Appalachian Springs, the tracks he brought to the Forth sessions were very poor - the rest of band's masterful musicianship elevate Richard's mediocrity on tracks like Vallium Skies to sound like textured, spacey songs. Interesting, didn't know it was mostly a band-written tune! What a shameless hypocrite Richard is for stealing songwriting royalties from the rest of the band while at the same time complaining that Jagger/Richards stole Bittersweet Symphony from him. I say that with a grain of salt taken, I don't know the full story just remember reading somewhere about him stating the vocoder contribution was a major part in taking credit - the track is officially penned as Richard Ashcroft / The Verve, similar to Nick with Neon Wilderness.
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Post by mystoryisgory on May 7, 2020 22:35:09 GMT -5
Defo agree that Lucky Man is the best example of The Verve making a Richard solo tune into something great. I'd say that Weeping Willow is also up there in that regard. But tbh, while I know Nick has his fingerprints all over Urban Hymns in nonobvious ways and it wouldn't be a good record without him, I still wish that full-band songs like Rolling People, Catching the Butterfly, Come On, Neon Wilderness were more than just a fourth of the record. The Verve were always better as the post-rock band with a singer that Nick McCabe once described them as. Had Urban Hymns looked like this, it would've been truer to the psychedelic grooves of their earlier work.
1. Bittersweet Symphony 2. Three Steps 3. Weeping Willow 4. King Riff 2
5. All Ways Are Maybes 6. Stamped 7. The Rolling People 8. Catching the Butterfly 9. Echo Bass 10. Lucky Man 11. Come On
Is this better than the Urban Hymns we got? Maybe or maybe not, but at the very least it feels like a 100% Verve album and not half Verve and half Richard debut solo album.
Everything here is amazing music, but it just doesn't flow as well I find. I consider Urban Hymns 100 percent a Verve album. Nick's contributions to Ashcroft's tracks cannot be understated. Weeping Willow was transformed from what probably was a lukewarm ballad with great lyrics to a dirty ambient, ethereal juggernaut. The Drugs Don't Work with the haunting slide guitar effects, Sonnet's guitar solo, the Lucky Man ambient, the licks on This Time (listen to the BeatNick mix). Si's basswork is the 2nd best of his career (his work on Forth is unreal, steals the show in some areas on that album, see Columbo, Love Is Noise, etc.), Pete's a great drummer in his own right as well, one of the underrated ones from the British rock scene of the 90s, and Si Tong's contributions on keys and made major changes in the way the songs sounded (Nick and Si have their guitar parts on two different channels for instance on Sonnet and Lucky Man (Nick on the left for the majority of the time, Si Tong on the right). Urban Hymns is the prime example of why Richard solo could never, ever reach the height of what was done on it. Richard for two decades has been chasing the success of his Urban Hymns output, thinking its brillance was all him, but not realizing how much of a support foundation the rest of the band was. Don't disagree that the Nick's contributions to Urban Hymns were significant, and the Richard-penned material would never work without The Verve backing him, but nevertheless there was a major shift in how the majority of the songs were written. Previously they were written far more democratically through long improvised jamming pruned down into songs, a la Can, electric Miles, and late-period Talk Talk, rather than the rest of The Verve being sidemen to Richard's songs. I don't blame Nick for feeling like he'd been written out of the band by the Urban Hymns era. That's not to say that Richard deserves all the credit for UH, it's that on more than just a few songs UH sounds like what Richard's solo output should sound like rather than the collaborative nature of The Verve. It's because of this change in how the majority of the songs were written that I think it's more than a stretch to call Urban Hymns 100% a Verve album. The change in songwriting is apparent even without knowing the backstory. I would imagine that a lot of fans who'd jumped on board at either the ASIH or ANS eras would've thought similarly, that, while Urban Hymns has flashes of the ASIH and ANS Verve, it might as well be by a different band.
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Post by morning_rain on May 8, 2020 3:32:03 GMT -5
Also, it's high time we killed the Urban Hymns worship. Yes, it's a good record, but it's nothing compared to the savage, primal maelstrom of records that came before it. Plus, it's two or three songs too long and weighed down by the excess of Richard solo tunes as opposed to actual band grooves. The back half before Come On especially drags because of this. Worst of all, it cemented people's perception of The Verve as a ballad band instead of the raging psychedelic monsters they more often were. And then Richard became convinced that The Verve's genius was solely due to him instead of decentralized collaboration between members of a band. Urban Hymns is a good album, don't get me wrong, but it's very much undeserving of its massive acclaim, especially when A Storm in Heaven and A Northern Soul are always overlooked. Urban Hymns is the first album I listened from them and it was a bit underwhelming (I was very young and I expected every song to be on the same level as Bittersweet Symphony). Years later I gave a chance to their earlier albums and fell in love with them. What a band.
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Post by Jack on May 8, 2020 9:52:44 GMT -5
Also, it's high time we killed the Urban Hymns worship. Yes, it's a good record, but it's nothing compared to the savage, primal maelstrom of records that came before it. Plus, it's two or three songs too long and weighed down by the excess of Richard solo tunes as opposed to actual band grooves. The back half before Come On especially drags because of this. Worst of all, it cemented people's perception of The Verve as a ballad band instead of the raging psychedelic monsters they more often were. And then Richard became convinced that The Verve's genius was solely due to him instead of decentralized collaboration between members of a band. Urban Hymns is a good album, don't get me wrong, but it's very much undeserving of its massive acclaim, especially when A Storm in Heaven and A Northern Soul are always overlooked. Urban Hymns is the first album I listened from them and it was a bit underwhelming (I was very young and I expected every song to be on the same level as Bittersweet Symphony). Years later I gave a chance to their earlier albums and fell in love with them. What a band. UH is an incredible album. But ASIH and ANS are better Verve albums, for sure.
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Post by glider on May 8, 2020 10:26:41 GMT -5
Everything here is amazing music, but it just doesn't flow as well I find. I consider Urban Hymns 100 percent a Verve album. Nick's contributions to Ashcroft's tracks cannot be understated. Weeping Willow was transformed from what probably was a lukewarm ballad with great lyrics to a dirty ambient, ethereal juggernaut. The Drugs Don't Work with the haunting slide guitar effects, Sonnet's guitar solo, the Lucky Man ambient, the licks on This Time (listen to the BeatNick mix). Si's basswork is the 2nd best of his career (his work on Forth is unreal, steals the show in some areas on that album, see Columbo, Love Is Noise, etc.), Pete's a great drummer in his own right as well, one of the underrated ones from the British rock scene of the 90s, and Si Tong's contributions on keys and made major changes in the way the songs sounded (Nick and Si have their guitar parts on two different channels for instance on Sonnet and Lucky Man (Nick on the left for the majority of the time, Si Tong on the right). Urban Hymns is the prime example of why Richard solo could never, ever reach the height of what was done on it. Richard for two decades has been chasing the success of his Urban Hymns output, thinking its brillance was all him, but not realizing how much of a support foundation the rest of the band was. Don't disagree that the Nick's contributions to Urban Hymns were significant, and the Richard-penned material would never work without The Verve backing him, but nevertheless there was a major shift in how the majority of the songs were written. Previously they were written far more democratically through long improvised jamming pruned down into songs, a la Can, electric Miles, and late-period Talk Talk, rather than the rest of The Verve being sidemen to Richard's songs. I don't blame Nick for feeling like he'd been written out of the band by the Urban Hymns era. That's not to say that Richard deserves all the credit for UH, it's that on more than just a few songs UH sounds like what Richard's solo output should sound like rather than the collaborative nature of The Verve. It's because of this change in how the majority of the songs were written that I think it's more than a stretch to call Urban Hymns 100% a Verve album. The change in songwriting is apparent even without knowing the backstory. I would imagine that a lot of fans who'd jumped on board at either the ASIH or ANS eras would've thought similarly, that, while Urban Hymns has flashes of the ASIH and ANS Verve, it might as well be by a different band. Definitely agree it's not a full form, proper Verve record in the vein of every song being stemmed from a condensed jam session with Richard's lyricism forming it as what was done in the past, more so I'm stating the contributions from the other members at the time were too monumental to disregard, as much as the press or Richard himself would like to admit. Aside from One Day (the weakest track), every track on the album has something distinctive from each of the members that gives it a Verve identity, rather than Richard Ashcroft ft. The Verve. Similar to on Forth with the track Vallium Skies - the lyrics and melody are as mundane and saccharine as anything from the majority of Richard's solo outing, but Nick's loops, Si's bass and Pete's drumming are so well handled in the track it takes the song to a level it no where should be at. ASIH will always stand at the top of the mountain, and ANS with the inclusion of History and On Your Own was where it started to break form.
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2020 10:56:27 GMT -5
Great interview that @glider, enjoyed it!
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Post by captainsoul on May 12, 2020 17:54:26 GMT -5
He didn't really write Love Is Noise in terms of songwriting-wise, the track stemmed from the Columbo jam initially and he just added lyrics to it like he's done for years with all the Verve-penned tunes. The "songwriting" credit that was placed on it was for him to get more royalties or some nonsense. Aside from Appalachian Springs, the tracks he brought to the Forth sessions were very poor - the rest of band's masterful musicianship elevate Richard's mediocrity on tracks like Vallium Skies to sound like textured, spacey songs. Interesting, didn't know it was mostly a band-written tune! What a shameless hypocrite Richard is for stealing songwriting royalties from the rest of the band while at the same time complaining that Jagger/Richards stole Bittersweet Symphony from him. He didn't steal anything. He took a section from a 40-minute version of Columbo and with a vocoder started to create the vocal loop and shaping the song Love Is Noise. Nick has been criticizing Richard over the last years and he's never mentioned him stealing songwriting royalties about Love Is Noise. Back in 2008, a website published an interview were the band talked about all the songs included on Forth. Here's the fragment about Love Is Noise:
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Post by matt on May 12, 2020 18:39:22 GMT -5
It makes sense that Love Is Noise is an all round band effort considering it’s actually brilliant compared to the sentimental guff Richard writes for his solo records. Got a real punch to it, it’s a great track. If Ashcroft hadn’t been so up his own arse and properly committed to The Verve, they could have spent much longer on Forth (it was released less than a year after they reunited) and we might have been talking about a brilliant comeback album.
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Post by Jack on May 12, 2020 19:14:30 GMT -5
It makes sense that Love Is Noise is an all round band effort considering it’s actually brilliant compared to the sentimental guff Richard writes for his solo records. Got a real punch to it, it’s a great track. If Ashcroft hadn’t been so up his own arse and properly committed to The Verve, they could have spent much longer on Forth (it was released less than a year after they reunited) and we might have been talking about a brilliant comeback album. I have a feeling he just used that reunion to boost his profile, then left the rest of the band in the cold (and virtually unemployed) to continue his solo career. Imagine what could have been, if Richard stuck around for a few more years. Instead, he went on to release UNOS...f*cking travesty.
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Post by glider on May 12, 2020 20:20:33 GMT -5
It makes sense that Love Is Noise is an all round band effort considering it’s actually brilliant compared to the sentimental guff Richard writes for his solo records. Got a real punch to it, it’s a great track. If Ashcroft hadn’t been so up his own arse and properly committed to The Verve, they could have spent much longer on Forth (it was released less than a year after they reunited) and we might have been talking about a brilliant comeback album. I have a feeling he just used that reunion to boost his profile, then left the rest of the band in the cold (and virtually unemployed) to continue his solo career. Imagine what could have been, if Richard stuck around for a few more years. Instead, he went on to release UNOS...f*cking travesty. I used to think that but based on Nick's interviews from the UH reissue and rewatching RPA soundbites from late 07, it seems he was totally on board (Early Forth sessions were filled with laughing, per Nick). After Rich and Si's bust-up at that Roundhouse gig in Dec. '07, everything went downhill.
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Post by Jack on May 12, 2020 20:35:05 GMT -5
From Wikipedia "Pete is believed to have been the one behind getting the ball rolling in terms of reuniting the band. After Ashcroft (currently residing in Liverpool) learned that Salisbury, was in contact with the former guitarist, Nick McCabe, over a possible side project, Ashcroft used this as an excuse to call McCabe. Ashcroft made peace with him and bassist Simon Jones and the band reformed. In a band interview with the NME in 2007, Salisbury said that the problems between them were not that bad in the first place." "In August 2009, The Guardian speculated that the Verve had broken up for a third time,with Jones and McCabe no longer on speaking terms with Ashcroft as they felt he was using the reunion as a vehicle to get his solo career back on track."
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 12, 2020 21:18:43 GMT -5
I throughly enjoyed The Verve’s mini comeback of 2008. Caught them at the Theater at MSG to a great setlist and happy vibes. I think “Love Is Noise” is an awesome single and I played it constantly that whole summer. Don’t sleep on “Appalachian Springs”. What a slow burning anthem. I know “The Mover” wasn’t on Forth and an oldie but that song also kicks major ass. It was sad to see them implode by 2009 but that was always the case with this band. A good high and the inevitable fall.
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Post by Jack on May 12, 2020 21:33:39 GMT -5
I throughly enjoyed The Verve’s mini comeback of 2008. Caught them at the Theater at MSG to a great setlist and happy vibes. I think “Love Is Noise” is an awesome single and I played it constantly that whole summer. Don’t sleep on “Appalachian Springs”. What a slow burning anthem. I know “The Mover” wasn’t on Forth and an oldie but that song also kicks major ass. It was sad to see them implode by 2009 but that was always the case with this band. A good high and the inevitable fall. Yeah, was good all round. Blue Pacific Ocean was prob my favourite Forth track
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