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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 23, 2014 20:32:56 GMT -5
I know I started a thread (probably a couple) on him over the last couple years, but I want to kickstart a discussion on him, too.
Frankly, (no pun intended!) he's my joint-favorite current artist (alongside Los Campesinos! of course!).
I hold him as one of the best lyricists around today. Very impressive albums. And I absolutely love his most recent 2013 release, Tape Deck Heart.
The guy is simply a genius.
Yet the forum bangs on about Alex Turner. The mind truly boggles. Frank Turner is an untouchable artist, and seems to only get better with each album.
Can't believe I missed his show back in November! Gah! Next time.
Pure class.
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Post by matt on Mar 23, 2014 21:55:54 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of him, England Keep My Bones is a great great great album. Alex Turner's more acute observations of youth in the UK probably strike a chord with more people which is perhaps a big reason for his success, but Frank Turner is no less skilful at his turn of phrase - I suppose his lyrical range of social commentary or his pining for England passes a lot of young folk by sadly. But that's no bad thing, as he is unique and doesn't jump on the bandwagon.
He's also probably not as popular as he should be because his influences are quite wide ranging - it can be often folk influenced, indie influenced, punk even - it's hard to pigeonhole him with the NME lot for example. But, again, that's what makes him great.
His live performances are mind blowing too. He did after all play at the brilliant Olympic opening ceremony in London. His energetic tunes are perfect for festivals.
So I definitely agree, he is one of this country's very best contemporary artists and hugely underrated.
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Post by scott1 on Mar 24, 2014 12:38:03 GMT -5
Love his music. I can't think of one release that I haven't enjoyed playing through.
His shows are lively to say the least, he's a true charismatic performer and he deserves the frequent slots he gets on the festival circuit.
Although not as popular as Turner like you mentioned, I'd say he's still well known in quite a few music circles owing to the amount of genres he seems to have spanned.
One of our finest exports, and he only seems to be getting more well known. Deservedly so.
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Post by scott1 on Apr 29, 2015 5:25:30 GMT -5
So we have a new Frank Turner album getting closer and closer.
He's put out this from it so far:
This morning he shared a picture of a just-finished, mastered copy of the new album.
At this stage all that was scrawled on it was "Frank Turner: P.S.F.N.P", so my guess for the album title when it's finally released is "Positive Songs For Negative People" - makes sense, right? You heard it here first!
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Apr 29, 2015 5:45:31 GMT -5
He's one of my favourite artists. Seen him live 5 times now, you should definitely go to one of his gigs, you won't regret it, great energy!  |
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Post by Sternumman on Apr 29, 2015 7:46:20 GMT -5
Never really heard of him before. Listening to England Keep My Bones because of this thread. Liked most of what I've heard so far. A lot of it seems really familiar. Some of the tracks he sounds very English. Others he sounds American.
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Post by Jessica on Apr 29, 2015 11:56:19 GMT -5
Heh, I have a friend who has seen him like 20 times and has met him on numerous occasions. I've listened to his singles, I haven't gotten around to listening to the albums entirely though. It was really strange hearing Recovery when I went out to places.
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Post by matt on Apr 29, 2015 18:42:38 GMT -5
I fail to understand how someone like Jake Bugg is more popular than this guy. Absolutely mindblowing.
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Post by scott1 on Apr 30, 2015 9:39:18 GMT -5
I fail to understand how someone like Jake Bugg is more popular than this guy. Absolutely mindblowing. Jake Bugg has a strange connection with young people into British rock that I just fail to grasp. In terms of songwriting, he's like a younger Miles Kane in that he's fairly listenable when there's a co-writer or two behind the scenes. The difference is, Miles doesn't operate at a level any bigger than he deserves. That's not to say I don't like him, but he knows that arenas and headline slots aren't his stomping ground. Bugg, on the other hand, has somehow managed to reach a level of popularity far bigger than he should have done. I know Frank is getting more and more popular, helped open the Olympics etc. but I totally agree that he's incredibly overlooked. His lyrics are gold and he has a great ear for the music that carries them, he's a thoroughly dependable songsmith. |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Apr 30, 2015 13:45:09 GMT -5
Regarding Jake Bugg...I'd say he's probably the exact opposite of someone like Frank Turner. Jake Bugg to me always seems to be kind of "constructed", if you know what I mean. People in the music business thought it would be great to have someone who looks a bit like Liam, who is young,...So he got a lot of promotion. He might have some talent, but I'm with Noel on the fact that it's disappointing that he has a co-writer writing his songs. I don't bother checking out his songs anymore, since I knew that. It might be naive or I might even miss a good song, but can you ever identify with that? I can't, at least not in the sense that I imagine him sitting on his bed with an acoustic guitar, being desperately in love for example and writing songs about his feelings and experiences. I guess that is exactly what I like about Noel. You know that his songs are 100% him and everything about it is authentic and real. It's what HE wants us to hear and not what someone thought WE might want to hear. I hope you get what I'm trying to say. If you can't write a song good enough too be popular, you don't deserve to be popular. There are SO many musicians out there we all might not have heard of yet who desperately tour their arses off with their songs, but are neglected by the masses or the record companies. Frank on the other hand is one of these very hard working musicians. People who got to know him during the last years might think he is some kind of newcomer, but instead he worked very hard for the success he's enjoying now and that for a lot of years. He's the hardest working musician I know. At least in terms of touring and playing live music (Damon Albarn is also a workaholic, but he's rather working in the studio and not touring that much). People often give him shit for having gone to the same school as Prince William (or was it Harry), so he's not the "from rags to riches" kind of guy journalists can create an awesome story of. The Gallaghers are a perfect example for that, which of course is a nice thing. Starting from nothing and then reaching your dreams. Bless them Where was I? Right, Frank enjoyed a great education and even studied history, iirc. So he had a great possibility to be successful withouth entering the music business. Instead, he decided to do what he loved to do, what he was passionate about and took the hard way. I respect him for that. He is truly gifted and I'm glad he finally got some of the recognition he deserves. But to be honest, I don't think Frank is someone who really wants to become a lot more popular. He's always been more of a person who liked the "underground scene" a lot more than what was popular and it would be somehow against his own value or beliefs. I think I'm ready now  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 30, 2015 15:15:07 GMT -5
I really like Jake Bugg tbh Some of the songs he's written all by himself (like Country Song or All Your Reasons) are as good as anything else he's recorded,I was a bit disappointed when I found out he's got co-writers as well,but that didn't stop me from enjoying his music,same for George Ezra,I'm curious to see what he does with his next record,as he's writing it all by himself apparently I think his success his due to people being desperately in search of the new "rock n roll star(s)",plus lots of well known and successful artists (such as our Noel) have been supporting his work for years,his songs are catchy enough to be played on the radio,and on top of that he's young and attractive,which brings some One Direction and Justin Bieber fans on the bandwagon  |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Apr 30, 2015 15:22:32 GMT -5
I just read your signature, defmaybe00 : Noel's quote which I also like very much. But it actually symbolises everything I associate with Jake Bugg. "Cool is not standing in a corner with sunglasses, smoking a cigarette, drinking champagne and quoting Jack Kerouac. Cool is not giving a fuck about what you say or what you wear, cool is not being cool."  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 30, 2015 15:31:37 GMT -5
I just read your signature, defmaybe00 : Noel's quote which I also like very much. But it actually symbolises everything I associate with Jake Bugg. "Cool is not standing in a corner with sunglasses, smoking a cigarette, drinking champagne and quoting Jack Kerouac. Cool is not giving a fuck about what you say or what you wear, cool is not being cool." I get what you're saying,and I think that's the issue with many rockstar nowadays,they just look like they're trying so hard to be cool,while the great thing with the Gallaghers is that Liam is just like you see him,he says and does some stupid things,but he doesn't give a fuck about anything really,he thinks he's the best frontman in the world and says it,he's not worried about the consequences And Noel,even though he can sound like a c unt in some occasions and he contradicts himself from time to time,he never takes himself too seriously and you can see it But I don't know,I just like Jake,I understand when people say he looks "constructed",but his two albums are full of songs I love that he at least co-wrote and that's it really,I don't care if he's pretending to be Noel Gallagher or something |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Apr 30, 2015 16:16:56 GMT -5
I just read your signature, defmaybe00 : Noel's quote which I also like very much. But it actually symbolises everything I associate with Jake Bugg. "Cool is not standing in a corner with sunglasses, smoking a cigarette, drinking champagne and quoting Jack Kerouac. Cool is not giving a fuck about what you say or what you wear, cool is not being cool." I get what you're saying,and I think that's the issue with many rockstar nowadays,they just look like they're trying so hard to be cool,while the great thing with the Gallaghers is that Liam is just like you see him,he says and does some stupid things,but he doesn't give a fuck about anything really,he thinks he's the best frontman in the world and says it,he's not worried about the consequences And Noel,even though he can sound like a c unt in some occasions and he contradicts himself from time to time,he never takes himself too seriously and you can see it But I don't know,I just like Jake,I understand when people say he looks "constructed",but his two albums are full of songs I love that he at least co-wrote and that's it really,I don't care if he's pretending to be Noel Gallagher or something That's good for you then I mean, if you enjoy his music! It's not that I listen to him and think "omg, he may have not written this himself, i hate him", but I simply don't listen to him, because he doesn't intereset me that much. Back to Frank Turner, I also really like the fact that he is the "mod" of his forum and also contributes regularly. There is a section where you can ask him anything and if the questions aren't totally shit, he answers 95% of them. I think that's great for the fans. Imagine that with Noel (I don't blame him that he doesn'T do that!)...everything that we could ask him!! Okay, maybe that would take the magic away a bit? I don't know. Concerning Frank, I enjoy it |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 30, 2015 16:26:56 GMT -5
So we have a new Frank Turner album getting closer and closer. He's put out this from it so far: This morning he shared a picture of a just-finished, mastered copy of the new album. At this stage all that was scrawled on it was "Frank Turner: P.S.F.N.P", so my guess for the album title when it's finally released is "Positive Songs For Negative People" - makes sense, right? You heard it here first! I actually really fucking liked that. That's a tune and a half, that is. And it's so appropriate to my life, and is the inspiration I was needing to hear. Fantastic. We can get better, because we're not dead yet.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 21:52:30 GMT -5
caught his set at a festival last year. was definitely the highlight of the entire day for me.
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Post by scott1 on May 1, 2015 5:30:20 GMT -5
So we have a new Frank Turner album getting closer and closer. He's put out this from it so far: This morning he shared a picture of a just-finished, mastered copy of the new album. At this stage all that was scrawled on it was "Frank Turner: P.S.F.N.P", so my guess for the album title when it's finally released is "Positive Songs For Negative People" - makes sense, right? You heard it here first! I actually really fucking liked that. That's a tune and a half, that is. And it's so appropriate to my life, and is the inspiration I was needing to hear. Fantastic. We can get better, because we're not dead yet. The meaning behind the song further affirms my guess that he'll call the album "Positive Songs For Negative People", it's good to hear such positivity in a song. The video concept is brilliant too. Simple but brilliant. Handwritten lyrics on a sort of timeline of his music career, starting with his earliest albums and ending with the book he's just had published. To me that's a great idea. |
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Post by scott1 on May 11, 2015 10:24:05 GMT -5
My suspicions were proved correct today when he announced the album title as Positive Songs For Negative People.
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Post by scott1 on Jun 15, 2015 13:11:19 GMT -5
Album out August 7th, excited for this.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Jun 15, 2015 16:16:52 GMT -5
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Post by mkoasis on Jun 15, 2015 20:39:50 GMT -5
I've heard he's a bit like Billy Bragg. I guess I should give him a listen.
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Post by scott1 on Jun 16, 2015 3:18:53 GMT -5
Theyre both quite similar songs, I think it might be the verse melody or something but there's definitely a similarity in there between the two. Not t say that's a bad thing, I do like them. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 16, 2015 13:03:54 GMT -5
My suspicions were proved correct today when he announced the album title as Positive Songs For Negative People. Fucking describes me. Looking forward to this release. Huge Frank Turner fan. |
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Post by scott1 on Jun 16, 2015 13:07:52 GMT -5
My suspicions were proved correct today when he announced the album title as Positive Songs For Negative People. Fucking describes me. Looking forward to this release. Huge Frank Turner fan. I like the way it's shaping up already - his bullish positivity is what usually makes for his best songs. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 19, 2015 9:26:33 GMT -5
New song. Fucking class.
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