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Post by allingoodtime on Jan 5, 2014 13:48:27 GMT -5
This only includes footballers i've watched live..i doubt any of us remember Pele..
Couldn't include everyone as once you get started its hard to stop..+ i don't consider players like Beckham to be one of the best ever
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 14:44:27 GMT -5
Ahem I seen him many times for the cosmos in New York ; ( actually New Jersey ) Not at his best bit brilliant , so if it's just who I saw at best it's 'Maradona easy ,,with the soft defense now he would blow past MESSI. But I seen pele , live and on tele
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 14:46:13 GMT -5
No Maradona Can't participate
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 5, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5
No Tevez? That goal scoring Umpa Lumpa?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 17:18:12 GMT -5
No Tevez? That goal scoring Umpa Lumpa? If I was to MAV ...... Maradona - messi - Christiano Ronaldo .henry - zidane ...........fowler is still best pure goal scorer. I ever saw , had he not got hurt he would have eclipsed shearer , he was goal machine with either foot , and never saw a better forward I when a sniff was there .
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Post by allingoodtime on Jan 5, 2014 18:20:03 GMT -5
You've seen pele live? he stopped playing in the 70's..
Same for Maradona, left him out cos I didn't think anyone would remember him or have ever seen him.
For the record, Ronaldinho is the most talented player i've ever seen and can't imagine ever seeing anyone as good as him again. I also voted for Zlatan, the guy is 6"4 and has dribbled like Ronaldo, his technique and flair are amazing, and the goals he scores are unique.
Henry was a beast with Arsenal, unstoppable. Messi and Ronaldo(7) don't really need an explanation atm
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 18:48:51 GMT -5
You've seen pele live? he stopped playing in the 70's.. Same for Maradona, left him out cos I didn't think anyone would remember him or have ever seen him. Seen him thru all his cosmos years mate with chinaaglia beckenbauer. I m 48!b. why u think I'm so grumpy pele lost a step the but was still great. Same for Giorgio
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Post by allingoodtime on Jan 5, 2014 18:51:13 GMT -5
Ah sorry then I guess Maradona and Pele would have been an easy vote for you then lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 18:51:25 GMT -5
Now DIEGO I was old enough to see in prime ....he was best by far. Trust me MESSI is great but if Diego played in this era. With no defense yellow cards and reds at a sneeze he knick 100 goals
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 18:52:52 GMT -5
Yes . But in the list you give ..... I go MESSI c Ronaldo zidane rhonaldino Henry
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Post by allingoodtime on Jan 5, 2014 19:06:10 GMT -5
My dad tells me the same about Maradona, tells me he shits all over messi (not in those exact words) and im sure he was amazing but being that much better than Messi is hard, especially considering the crazy amount of goals he (and ronaldo) score each season..60-70 goals is crazy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 19:18:34 GMT -5
My dad tells me the same about Maradona, tells me he shits all over messi (not in those exact words) and im sure he was amazing but being that much better than Messi is hard, especially considering the crazy amount of goals he (and ronaldo) score each season..60-70 goals is crazy See here is what you don't understand . Because you only see highlights , much like nfl quarterbacks with there amazing stats , the games todsy are geared toward offense , Dan Marino would throw for 6000 yards in nfl with these rules and the people who saw him know this ,,,,same with Diego , he played when u got mugged no card ,,,, offside was called much more , defense was game yet he shine thru ...,your dad is right .and it's not us waxing poetic. Diego was that good if you watched him year after year you would agree , MESSI is great , but not in Diego class if playing field and rules same
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Post by allingoodtime on Jan 5, 2014 19:36:09 GMT -5
Fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 19:38:42 GMT -5
MESSI is still a unbelievable talent mind u .
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 5, 2014 22:22:15 GMT -5
Pelé is the best of all time, the numbers speaks for him, no one on par with him.
Look what he did with Beckenbauer, simple the best defender ever in football.
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Post by eva on Jan 7, 2014 5:48:36 GMT -5
You can't have a poll about footballers and not list Maradona as an option, wether you've seen him or not.
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Post by shinealight on Jan 7, 2014 6:37:50 GMT -5
And where is Mario Lemieux?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 10:38:25 GMT -5
You can't have a poll about footballers and not list Maradona as an option, wether you've seen him or not. Makes u feel old right eva !! Lol ...... I seen pele live I seen DIEGO live but in friendly in USA Not to have them on isn't his fault he's a cool cat ...just shows we old. . Well I am. And all due respect again to those who disagree but pele was not better than Maradona ... Stats only tell part of story there so close it don't really matter but Diego did things that just defied logic
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 7, 2014 13:03:30 GMT -5
Diego was great, but in no way he was better than Pelé, Diego use to say this cos he is just a troll, he is envious of Pelé, but the truth is that Pelé is unbeatable.
To start, Diego wans't good with his right foot, however, Pelé was great with his two foots, also Diego didn't know how to use his head to make gols, he used his hand instead, Pelé was great in every departament.
There are many Pelé histories like when he was about to play in Africa and two countries had to stop the war just to see him playing togheter.
Pelé won Libertadores and Mundial against european clubs, and also won 3 world cups, made more than 1000 goals and stuffs, he also played in a time where there were neither red nor yellow cards, football at that time it used to be violent as hell, but even then his skills were on top and he was able to avoid violent defenders.
Diego didn't won neither Libertadores nor Champions League, and made much less goals than Pelé.
Diego did that great gol against England, but that was more strenght than skills, but in the same game he did one of the worst things in football, a gol with his hand, England was stoled at that game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 13:09:29 GMT -5
Ill never argue against pele. I saw Diego at his best , as I said I never seen pele at best he was like 37 when I seen live , the best I saw live was Diego ....I get your point , it's probably true ..,I just meant he's best I saw in prime. Some would argue all your points for pele over him ...probably why years ago they were voted co - best ever and took the stage together .. I won't argue pele never. But I never saw him at 28 live. I did Diego
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Post by Louis Tully on Jan 7, 2014 17:44:07 GMT -5
And where is Mario Lemieux? you just made it on to the (cuddle party) list... Thanks.
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Post by shinealight on Jan 8, 2014 3:52:49 GMT -5
And where is Mario Lemieux? you just made it on to the (cuddle party) list... Thanks. Hope majority of us in the cuddle party are ladies ... not to keen on cuddling with male gender
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jan 8, 2014 4:35:15 GMT -5
And where is Mario Lemieux? That's hockey.
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Post by shinealight on Jan 9, 2014 3:34:13 GMT -5
Do u know If Diego is still does cocaine? There was another geezer Mutu in Chelsea who as far as I remember was testen positively on drugs. IMO it is impossible co compare player from past with the guys playing now. Before u made it with talent these days they are more athletes and talent is what separets u from the average.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 5:59:57 GMT -5
Do u know If Diego is still does cocaine? . Don't know , could care less ...his buisness .....as for comparing , I've been saying that for years ,different sports almost , golf , tiger plays with light sabers , jack a pocketknife American football dam Marino played when you could hit receivers at will and qbs Hockey - you can't touch a person without. Penalty None of changes the fact of how talented certain players were , Gretzky and lemieaux re still the two most talented players I have seen in hockey Maradona the most talented in footy , the fact MESSI can score 60 or so is because they don't play defense , so different game , as you say can't compare . But the coke. , as in the tennis thread maybe your attempting humor, but I'll just answer the actual statement . You can't compare
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