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Post by The Escapist on Jul 24, 2020 9:50:05 GMT -5
Okay, I like this one. It's good. It's a good album.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 24, 2020 22:12:14 GMT -5
Count me in as another one who likes it. Very personal and restrained compared to a lot of her previous work. Nice to see her growing artistically.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 25, 2020 0:37:18 GMT -5
I still can't get how this thread has 37 pages when most amazing artists don't have their own dedicated threads on this forum. (Yeah I know that with this comment I'm making the thread grow even more, but it's already too late since at least page 5 ) And over 163,577 views. One of the most viewed non Oasis topics in this forum's history. Loads of closet Swift fans lurking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 3:52:41 GMT -5
tfw some guy thinks his own amateur music warrants a thread and the voice of a generation doesn't Anyway, album's a nice surprise and never strays below very decent but not enough stands out to justify its length imo. Might have been better to lose a couple of songs.
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Post by eva on Jul 25, 2020 6:07:26 GMT -5
tfw some guy thinks his own amateur music warrants a thread and the voice of a generation doesn't clearly not what he said, but whatever
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 25, 2020 6:40:25 GMT -5
Her new song "the last great american dynasty" sounds like High Violet era National for sure. I can just picture Matt Berninger singing this one with his baritone voice from the heavens. mimmihoppsI might listen to the song with Matt in my mind if I have time, lennon.
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 25, 2020 6:57:00 GMT -5
This song is really, really beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 10:23:31 GMT -5
tfw some guy thinks his own amateur music warrants a thread and the voice of a generation doesn't I don't know what my music has to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 10:56:49 GMT -5
Don't agree with the 5* and 9/10 reviews really. I get that it's something unexpected but it's an album of good songs, occasionally going above that, but that tails off and ultimately outstays its welcome. A very solid 7/10 for me. The 1, Mirrorball, August and Betty are my highlights.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2020 14:00:50 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but I’ve lost interest in Taylor Swift in the last year. Still a great artist, her albums are still great but for years I constantly listened to her and them respectively. Over exposure in the end.
Her Lover album actually turned me off in the end, ironically. Just lost interest.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 25, 2020 14:07:52 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but I’ve lost interest in Taylor Swift in the last year. Still a great artist, her albums are still great but for years I constantly listened to her and them respectively. Over exposure in the end. Her Lover album actually turned me off in the end, ironically. Just lost interest. It’s ok. She lost interest in you as well. What goes around comes around.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2020 14:14:37 GMT -5
Suffice it to say I haven’t listened to the new album yet. But the weekend is young.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2020 15:29:21 GMT -5
Listening to it now. Don’t agree with politics, but fuck it’s a good album. Forget the last two posts. We just got back together... 💙 Lennon2217
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2020 15:52:17 GMT -5
Fuck me. Good album. Sometimes I’m a tit.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 25, 2020 19:08:31 GMT -5
Fuck me. Good album. Sometimes I’m a tit. Believe me. We know................
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 25, 2020 21:39:41 GMT -5
variety.com/2020/music/news/taylor-swift-folklore-million-sold-24-hours-1234716578/Even though its existence was announced just 15 hours before its release, Taylor Swift’s “Folklore” sold more than 1.3 million copies globally in just 24 hours, according to Republic Records, which released the album.
According to the announcement, the album also broke the global record for first-day album streams on Spotify by a female artist with 80.6 million streams, and delivered “the most-streamed pop album on Apple Music in 24 hours” with 35.47 million streams. “Folklore” also set the U.S. and Worldwide Amazon Music Indie/Alternative Streaming Record, although further details were not immediately available.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 27, 2020 0:34:27 GMT -5
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 2, 2020 5:30:41 GMT -5
Ok, if I'm being honest, this is defo my AATY thus far. It's really incredible how well Taylor takes on the sad indie rock aesthetic and completely owns it. Just enough pop hooks to keep it from sounding overly same-ey (a trap a lot of sad indie albums fall into). Very delicate and patient music too, with barely a trace of the (glorious) melodrama in her earlier work. It's quite rockist of me to not fully recognize Taylor Swift's talent until she leans so heavily in an indie rock direction, but damn this album is so good it should silence anyone who believes the sexist lie that Taylor is a mindless pop star.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 2, 2020 7:25:51 GMT -5
Ok, if I'm being honest, this is defo my AATY thus far. It's really incredible how well Taylor takes on the sad indie rock aesthetic and completely owns it. Just enough pop hooks to keep it from sounding overly same-ey (a trap a lot of sad indie albums fall into). Very delicate and patient music too, with barely a trace of the (glorious) melodrama in her earlier work. It's quite rockist of me to not fully recognize Taylor Swift's talent until she leans so heavily in an indie rock direction, but damn this album is so good it should silence anyone who believes the sexist lie that Taylor is a mindless pop star. Spot on! The uncomfortable truth for a lot of your indie kids is that the likes of Pheobe Bridgers, for all their hipster cred, just don't have the natural talent for a chorus that Taylor does. Their albums often end up feeling like an endless haze of whispered vocals and guitar picking without the tunes to make one song stand out from the next. Taylor doesn't have that problem. The 1, Exile, August, The Last Great American Dynasty, Epiphany... I get these songs stuck in my head all the time, and they all feel distinct despite sharing the same kind of sound. It's a fantastic record. Up there with Dylan's and RTJ's for Album of the Year for me, too.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 2, 2020 16:33:18 GMT -5
Ok, if I'm being honest, this is defo my AATY thus far. It's really incredible how well Taylor takes on the sad indie rock aesthetic and completely owns it. Just enough pop hooks to keep it from sounding overly same-ey (a trap a lot of sad indie albums fall into). Very delicate and patient music too, with barely a trace of the (glorious) melodrama in her earlier work. It's quite rockist of me to not fully recognize Taylor Swift's talent until she leans so heavily in an indie rock direction, but damn this album is so good it should silence anyone who believes the sexist lie that Taylor is a mindless pop star. Spot on! The uncomfortable truth for a lot of your indie kids is that the likes of Pheobe Bridgers, for all their hipster cred, just don't have the natural talent for a chorus that Taylor does. Their albums often end up feeling like an endless haze of whispered vocals and guitar picking without the tunes to make one song stand out from the next. Taylor doesn't have that problem. The 1, Exile, August, The Last Great American Dynasty, Epiphany... I get these songs stuck in my head all the time, and they all feel distinct despite sharing the same kind of sound. It's a fantastic record. Up there with Dylan's and RTJ's for Album of the Year for me, too. Definitely! Taylor has a real ear for melody. And I don't want to hear another word from the haters about how all her melodies were written by Jack Antonoff or Max Martin. If that was the case, why do all her songs have melodic similarities? Almost as if the same one person had a hand in writing all of them....
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 2, 2020 17:02:57 GMT -5
Spot on! The uncomfortable truth for a lot of your indie kids is that the likes of Pheobe Bridgers, for all their hipster cred, just don't have the natural talent for a chorus that Taylor does. Their albums often end up feeling like an endless haze of whispered vocals and guitar picking without the tunes to make one song stand out from the next. Taylor doesn't have that problem. The 1, Exile, August, The Last Great American Dynasty, Epiphany... I get these songs stuck in my head all the time, and they all feel distinct despite sharing the same kind of sound. It's a fantastic record. Up there with Dylan's and RTJ's for Album of the Year for me, too. Definitely! Taylor has a real ear for melody. And I don't want to hear another word from the haters about how all her melodies were written by Jack Antonoff or Max Martin. If that was the case, why do all her songs have melodic similarities? Almost as if the same one person had a hand in writing all of them.... All those melodies were written by the douche bag men who attempted to walk all over her heart.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 2, 2020 19:21:40 GMT -5
The pop star’s eighth album sold 846,000 equivalent album units in its first week, beating out Juice WRLD’s Legends Never Die as the biggest debut of the year pitchfork.com/news/taylor-swifts-folklore-is-2020s-biggest-no-1-debut/Folkore was released with little advance notice on July 24 and earns Swift her seventh No. 1 album. Folklore starts with 846,000 equivalent album units earned in the U.S. in the week ending July 30, according to Nielsen Music/MRC Data. That marks the largest week registered for any album since Swift’s own Lover, which debuted at No. 1 on the Sept. 7, 2019-dated chart with 867,000 units. Further, in the last four years, the three biggest weeks for any album have been racked up by Swift. Dating back to July of 2016, the three largest frames for any album are: Swift’s Reputation (1.24 million units, Dec. 2, 2017-dated chart), Lover (867,000) and Folklore (846,000). The Billboard 200 chart ranks the most popular albums of the week in the U.S. based on multi-metric consumption as measured in equivalent album units. Units comprise album sales, track equivalent albums (TEA) and streaming equivalent albums (SEA). Each unit equals one album sale, or 10 individual tracks sold from an album, or 3,750 ad-supported or 1,250 paid/subscription on-demand official audio and video streams generated by songs from an album. The new Aug. 8-dated chart (where Folklore bows at No. 1) will be posted in full on Billboard's website on Aug. 4. Folklore’s debut of 846,000 equivalent album units is led by 615,000 in album sales, 218,000 in SEA units (equating to 289.85 million on-demand streams of the tracks on the album), and 13,000 in TEA units. www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9428290/taylor-swift-folklore-billboard-200-number-1?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 2, 2020 20:10:14 GMT -5
Definitely! Taylor has a real ear for melody. And I don't want to hear another word from the haters about how all her melodies were written by Jack Antonoff or Max Martin. If that was the case, why do all her songs have melodic similarities? Almost as if the same one person had a hand in writing all of them.... All those melodies were written by the douche bag men who attempted to walk all over her heart. Giving them too much credit
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Post by matt on Aug 3, 2020 8:01:08 GMT -5
Ok, if I'm being honest, this is defo my AATY thus far. It's really incredible how well Taylor takes on the sad indie rock aesthetic and completely owns it. Just enough pop hooks to keep it from sounding overly same-ey (a trap a lot of sad indie albums fall into). Very delicate and patient music too, with barely a trace of the (glorious) melodrama in her earlier work. It's quite rockist of me to not fully recognize Taylor Swift's talent until she leans so heavily in an indie rock direction, but damn this album is so good it should silence anyone who believes the sexist lie that Taylor is a mindless pop star. Unashamedly, I’d say it’s my rockist and folk music sensibilities that make me interested in this. I’ve got a few National albums and loved Aaron Dessners work with Frightened Rabbit and Michael Stipe of late. Fair play to her, she’s got it nailed in terms of productivity, throwing curveballs and release strategies in today’s age of streaming and instant gratification. It would be great if her peers threw similar surprises rather than releasing the same committee written commodified one size fits all music.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 8:17:19 GMT -5
Ok, if I'm being honest, this is defo my AATY thus far. It's really incredible how well Taylor takes on the sad indie rock aesthetic and completely owns it. Just enough pop hooks to keep it from sounding overly same-ey (a trap a lot of sad indie albums fall into). Very delicate and patient music too, with barely a trace of the (glorious) melodrama in her earlier work. It's quite rockist of me to not fully recognize Taylor Swift's talent until she leans so heavily in an indie rock direction, but damn this album is so good it should silence anyone who believes the sexist lie that Taylor is a mindless pop star. Spot on! The uncomfortable truth for a lot of your indie kids is that the likes of Pheobe Bridgers, for all their hipster cred, just don't have the natural talent for a chorus that Taylor does. Their albums often end up feeling like an endless haze of whispered vocals and guitar picking without the tunes to make one song stand out from the next. Taylor doesn't have that problem. The 1, Exile, August, The Last Great American Dynasty, Epiphany... I get these songs stuck in my head all the time, and they all feel distinct despite sharing the same kind of sound. It's a fantastic record. Up there with Dylan's and RTJ's for Album of the Year for me, too. I'll be honest, I'm not a hardcore Phoebe Bridgers fan, in fact I have listened to her two albums and a lot of her songs feel a bit samey, yeah. That said, a song like "Kyoto" is one of the best things I have heard in the last few years. It has a melancholic Elliott Smith vibe (without reaching the level of his masterpieces, obviously) with an upbeat tempo, kind of an interesting mix. I love the Bb note she's reaching over a C#m chord, it gives kind of a dissonant sound to the chorus. I haven't heard any song I know from Taylor Swift coming close to that (but it's not only Taylor Swift, I haven't heard a song as good from any recent mainstream pop stars tbh).
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