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Post by globe on Nov 14, 2013 8:22:17 GMT -5
Elvis was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me.
Seriously, I don't see how anybody can put Jackson anywhere near The Beatles. Jackson produced one good album, the rest was pants. That's not even touching on his dubious taste in children.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 14, 2013 8:48:16 GMT -5
Abso-bloody-lutely. I had got to the point of believing that maybe Jackson wasn't a pedophile after all because the more you read and see of him the more completely off his head he sounds to the point where it's like, well maybe he is that stupid and off his face on all sorts that he doesn't realise that his obsessions with children and openly admitting to sleeping in the same bed as some kids are just wrong. But then I stumbled across an article by some guy who obviously felt Jacko was guilty and the majority of it felt like him venting his grudge against Jackson until, near the bottom of the page where he mentioned how a kid was able to give a detailed description of Jackson's genitalia, including the shape of the blotches on his skin when it became erect. Added to that, it's pretty much confirmed i think that he had an alarm that would ring whenever someone got near to his bedroom door. Sure, his staff never witnessed any wrong-doing with him and any children but if he had time to cover up I don't suppose they would, would he? All that and the well-known paying off of the first case is enough for me to believe he was a pedo. I've always felt the whole timid persona and all the "I have the heart of a child" thing was bull as well, how could a timid man then get on stage in front of all those people and perform like he did.  That doesn't look like a timid man to me. In my opinion he used his tough upbringing as a cover-up to his vile acts, a little like Jimmy Savile running all those marathons and raising all that money for hospitals just so he could get access to all those sick and helpless kids, pedophiles are crafty bastards they really are and I think Jackson's no different. Sure, Jackson had it quite rough when he was a kid but lots of people have and lots of people will, hell even our very own Gallagher brothers suffered some cruelty at their hands of their dad and they've never dangled a kid over a balcony or bought or bought a friggin great theme park for their back garden. On the original post, yes a great entertainer, writer of pop music and dancer but king of pop? Nah, if anything I'd say The Beatles are the true kings of pop, they pretty much invented modern pop music. His voice wasn't all that special really compared to some of the greats and his dancing, though entertaining to watch was largely just James Brown with the moonwalk and a few crotch grabs chucked in there. People can believe what they want to believe, but MJ cared a lot about people less fortunate than himself, earth song, heal the world etc etc showed that. Just remember he didnt want to do those concerts in 09 but he gave so much away to charities that he literaly had no money left. Its sad but his generosity killed him. Personally I think its really sad that someone would give so much just to get called a 'freak'. His legacy is worth a pittance compared to what he achieved because he literally gave it all way. thats my view anyway. Hmmmm... Maybe he did give to charity but I would personally argue that his stupidity killed him to be honest. I think he didn't have any money left because 1) he bought his way out of the first child abuse trial of 1993 for the hefty sum of around $20 million and 2) the obscene purchases he made, for instance... Door ornament to the gates of Neverland covered with 24 KARAT GOLD!!!  Gold plated coffee machine...  Creepy oil paintings commissioned...       And other stupid shit like a life-sized model of himself as Batman  Not to mention of course all the plastic surgery he definitely didn't have:  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2013 11:02:27 GMT -5
Fact: Michael Jackson fucking scared me at all times. 
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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 14, 2013 12:09:07 GMT -5
He never denied not having surgery, he denied bleaching his skin, if you read details on his autopsy you'll see how he was saying the truth about vitiligo.
Again, when comparing the 3, I asked whos the best ARTIST not who lived the best life..
MJ had his problems, Lennon beat his women, Elvis had his just like we have ours.
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Nov 14, 2013 12:19:27 GMT -5
Elvis would shoot televisions when he didn't like what was being shown. again, completely fucking insane and awesome.
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 16:55:53 GMT -5
He never denied not having surgery, he denied bleaching his skin, if you read details on his autopsy you'll see how he was saying the truth about vitiligo. Again, when comparing the 3, I asked whos the best ARTIST not who lived the best life.. MJ had his problems, Lennon beat his women, Elvis had his just like we have ours. This  . MJ had a skin condition which destroyed pigment in his skin which led to him having white patches of skin appearing over his body, at the most he bleached some of skin in order to even the skin tone. Why do people criticise him for something he had no control of? and whats the problem anyway? many MANY white people get sunbed tans which is darkening their skin and that's perfect acceptable? Pretty ridiculous Ive never been a fan the beatles or elvis, they never had that 'it' factor for me, MJ just a electricity about the music and performances, my first album I bought was 'bad' and I still think its near perfection, the lyrics, the melody's just work fantastically. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2013 17:19:00 GMT -5
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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 14, 2013 17:23:47 GMT -5
If you can't believe an autopsy I dunno what more proof you need.
Thing is MJ was proven innocent, Lennon beating his women is a fact.
I have no problem with Lennon MJ or Elvis..because I listen to their music, i dont care about what people say they did, but you can't say you like Lennon then say you don't like MJ because of his personal life..bit of hypocrisy there.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2013 18:00:08 GMT -5
If you can't believe an autopsy I dunno what more proof you need. Thing is MJ was proven innocent, Lennon beating his women is a fact. I have no problem with Lennon MJ or Elvis..because I listen to their music, i dont care about what people say they did, but you can't say you like Lennon then say you don't like MJ because of his personal life..bit of hypocrisy there. Another Fact: A 40 year old Michel Jackson had sleep overs with children who he was not related to. Where I come from that shit isn't normal on any level. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 18:20:22 GMT -5
If you can't believe an autopsy I dunno what more proof you need. Thing is MJ was proven innocent, Lennon beating his women is a fact. I have no problem with Lennon MJ or Elvis..because I listen to their music, i dont care about what people say they did, but you can't say you like Lennon then say you don't like MJ because of his personal life..bit of hypocrisy there. Another Fact: A 40 year old Michel Jackson had sleep overs with children who he was not related to. Where I come from that shit isn't normal on any level. Sorry but do you think if he was doing something he shouldn't of he would of kept doing it so publicly? He might of been naive to think people should just accept the sleepovers etc but it doesn't prove he did anything wrong, what about the childrens parents? they seemed ok with it! Funny they were quite happy to let MJ spend lots of cash on them at the time. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2013 18:22:31 GMT -5
Another Fact: A 40 year old Michel Jackson had sleep overs with children who he was not related to. Where I come from that shit isn't normal on any level. Sorry but do you think if he was doing something he shouldn't of he would of kept doing it so publicly? He might of been naive to think people should just accept the sleepovers etc but it doesn't prove he did anything wrong, he was a child himself at heart. You think that since O.J. Simpson somehow beat the wrap the first time he would keep doing criminal activities once cleared?  |
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 14, 2013 19:02:22 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too.
The Beatles changed everything, their music still stands really strong today, the music world is divided in what came before and after The Beatles.
And Elvis, well.., he was a great performer, just it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2013 20:00:09 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too. The Beatles changed everything, their music still stands really strong today, the music world is divided in what came before and after The Beatles. And Elvis, well.., he was a great performer, just it. Elvis had GREAT hair. I wonder what shampoo he used Guy Fawkes? |
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Nov 14, 2013 20:36:14 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too. The Beatles changed everything, their music still stands really strong today, the music world is divided in what came before and after The Beatles. And Elvis, well.., he was a great performer, just it. Elvis had GREAT hair. I wonder what shampoo he used Guy Fawkes? Elvis used Prell, and he had one of his relatives wash his hair.  he also dyed his hair, he was a natural blonde. God bless. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2013 21:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Nov 15, 2013 13:45:23 GMT -5
at one time Elvis thought he discovered an herbal pill that would allow him to not have to bathe - it didn't work...
God bless.
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 15, 2013 17:04:54 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too. The Beatles changed everything, their music still stands really strong today, the music world is divided in what came before and after The Beatles. And Elvis, well.., he was a great performer, just it. Elvis had GREAT hair. I wonder what shampoo he used Guy Fawkes? Elvis hair>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 15, 2013 17:37:27 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too. Ehh I'd say Bowie is better tbh. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 15, 2013 22:56:43 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too. Ehh I'd say Bowie is better tbh. Bowie fucking rocks and he had sex with Mick Jagger (Rumor has it).  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 15, 2013 22:57:05 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too. Ehh I'd say Bowie is better tbh. Bowie fucking rocks and he had sex with Mick Jagger (Rumor has it). |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 15, 2013 22:57:51 GMT -5
MJ was the best single artist of all time, he used to dance, sing and was a songwriter too. Ehh I'd say Bowie is better tbh. Bowie fucking rocks and he had sex with Mick Jagger (Rumor has it). |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 16, 2013 6:13:13 GMT -5
 I can't say that what he got up to with Jagger is why I think he rocks but I suppose it's better than having sex with ten year olds... It was the seventies after all, you'd be hard pushed to find someone who DIDN'T have sex with Mick around that time I think... Balls to your moonwalks and only writing half of your songs,
THIS
OR THIS
>anything off 'Thriller'
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 16, 2013 6:21:32 GMT -5
"Jarvis Cocker is a star and he should be given an MBE. For Michael Jackson to come to this country after what's all gone on - and I think we all know what we're talking about here - to dress in a white robe, thinking he's the messiah, I mean, who does he think he is? Me?
That is out of order!
The only reason I didn't dress in a white robe is because my mother could not get the wool from the shop in time. But next year..."
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 16, 2013 6:33:48 GMT -5
Another Fact: A 40 year old Michel Jackson had sleep overs with children who he was not related to. Where I come from that shit isn't normal on any level. Sorry but do you think if he was doing something he shouldn't of he would of kept doing it so publicly? He might of been naive to think people should just accept the sleepovers etc but it doesn't prove he did anything wrong, what about the childrens parents? they seemed ok with it! Funny they were quite happy to let MJ spend lots of cash on them at the time. Out of interest and lest we think that selling a few albums absolves you from having to take responsibility. How would you feel UniversalGleam if your young children were having a sleepover at a 40 year old mans house? And the man I'm referring to isn't famous and hasn't sold a load of records. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2013 11:05:38 GMT -5
Sorry but do you think if he was doing something he shouldn't of he would of kept doing it so publicly? He might of been naive to think people should just accept the sleepovers etc but it doesn't prove he did anything wrong, what about the childrens parents? they seemed ok with it! Funny they were quite happy to let MJ spend lots of cash on them at the time. Out of interest and lest we think that selling a few albums absolves you from having to take responsibility. How would you feel UniversalGleam if your young children were having a sleepover at a 40 year old mans house? And the man I'm referring to isn't famous and hasn't sold a load of records. The man developed into a freak (for whatever reasons) and needed help. Probably everyone around him was too afraid and nervous to say/do anything for fear of being ousted from his inner circle. It's amazing the things money can do for a person. Michael says he was "forced" to settle with that family in 1993 for $22 million. What a crock of shit. You hand out that much cash, nobody forced you to do anything. That is a huge decision. It reeks of wrong doing. Plus the kid knew what Michael's penis looked like and other birth marks around his "private" parts. Somebody explain how an eleven year old boy could know such things? |
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