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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 10:10:23 GMT -5
I didn't enjoy HFB that much but you've got to look forward to a Noel Gallagher release. Even if the production is bland and safe as it will be if Sardy gets his hands on it, you're guaranteed some great quality tunes. Hopefully im not the only one that found the album almost unlistenable after the high-quality pro shots and bootlegs started coming out. The songs on HFB are mostly great but the album is just....it just usually doesnt work for me. Surprisingly, though, he's been great live so far. Completely agree, the quality of the songs are very good, and shove Alone On A Rope on there and it's improved more so but the album just doesn't do it for me either. I can enjoy it if I put it on but I don't ever feel like I must have it on and I got bored of the bigger songs like Everybody's On The Run and If I Had A Gun very quickly. I can't really say for the live gigs but whenever I've seen his gigs recorded, his voice has nine times out of ten been really good and a few of the songs like (Stranded) On The Wrong Beach seemed to work a lot better than on the record.
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Post by LlAM on Jul 13, 2013 12:09:12 GMT -5
Apparently, he's working on Oasis' comeback record; all Noel-written, complete with shines, rains, in-outs and Asus4's!
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Post by Thomas on Jul 13, 2013 16:09:14 GMT -5
Saw this on twitter
"Noel Gallagher è in uno studio di Londra a registrare nuove canzoni"
what d'you think?
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Post by spaneli on Jul 13, 2013 16:13:25 GMT -5
No real way of knowing for sure. He could just be demoing and working on a few songs, instead of a full album.
But it is a nice sign
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Post by frjdoasis on Jul 13, 2013 16:28:37 GMT -5
I'm surprised he stopped for a picture not caring of showing the synth, thus triggering rumours ;D or maybe he wanted to cause fuss
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Post by gdforever on Jul 13, 2013 16:41:21 GMT -5
Saw this on twitter "Noel Gallagher è in uno studio di Londra a registrare nuove canzoni" what d'you think? One thing that is difficult about getting confirmation from twitter of a rumour posted on here is that some people on twitter I think actually read this board and post our musings or theories online as fact.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 13, 2013 16:47:00 GMT -5
The guy that met Noel was in front of Ignition records,Noel was there,the guy saw him so he waited with his friends that Noel came out,then they took photos and gave to him their new album...now what is Noel doing at Ignition records with a synth? Could be demos or whatever,but he's doing something,and that's make me fucking happy!!!
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 13, 2013 16:48:15 GMT -5
Saw this on twitter "Noel Gallagher è in uno studio di Londra a registrare nuove canzoni" what d'you think? D'you know who's the guy who wrote it? Cos if he's the same guy I was talking about...you know...
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Post by Thomas on Jul 13, 2013 17:33:57 GMT -5
Saw this on twitter "Noel Gallagher è in uno studio di Londra a registrare nuove canzoni" what d'you think? D'you know who's the guy who wrote it? Cos if he's the same guy I was talking about...you know... Well, this is the twitter link twitter.com/ArimateaVSeems like a woman, but look at this photo that she have posted maybe a friend of the guy? well.. the only thing 100% sure is that i'm happy with these speculations
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 13, 2013 17:39:59 GMT -5
D'you know who's the guy who wrote it? Cos if he's the same guy I was talking about...you know... Well, this is the twitter link twitter.com/ArimateaVSeems like a woman, but look at this photo that she have posted maybe a friend of the guy? well.. the only thing 100% sure is that i'm happy with these speculations Reading ber tweets I don't think she's a friend of the guy,she nust supposes that those photos mean "new album"...and I think it could be true
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Post by Ash & Debris on Jul 13, 2013 19:40:58 GMT -5
He usually records in Hollywood California though.
So probably just demoing and toying with the basic blueprint of what he wants to go for.
I'd expect it in the fall of 2014 at the earliest.
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Post by yearzero on Jul 13, 2013 19:57:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I think a lot of people read one thing online or on these boards, then start posting it on Twitter. The person who posted that photo on Twitter might just have gotten it off the Facebook site (which is public), doesn't mean she's a friend of the guy. But thanks defmaybe00 for your investigative skills
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Post by spaneli on Jul 13, 2013 20:12:45 GMT -5
He usually records in Hollywood California though. So probably just demoing and toying with the basic blueprint of what he wants to go for. I'd expect it in the fall of 2014 at the earliest. I'm thinking the same thing, going by the timeline set-up by DOYS and HFB's.
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Post by matt on Jul 13, 2013 21:09:31 GMT -5
If Noel is happy with the final product, then why would he tear it down? You're bringing up a subjective point. To you or to me he may not be putting out the tracks to their fullest potential, but if he likes what they turn out to be, then that's all that matters. At least if we're looking at it from his viewpoint. So if you're Noel and you're happy with the final products then why change? Especially if you're happy with what you've produced and success that's come along with it. And yes, I would say a renaissance. PYMWYMI is just as shit as ICSAL. SMC is bloated and WDIAGW is far too bland. On HC there's She is Love and The Hindu Times, and Force of Nature. Some dirges. I equate his "renaissance" just by the level of songs he was writing, but the consistency he was writing good songs at. And his consistency definitely went up with DBTT. On that album he became a consistently good songwriter again and it has carried through on DOYS and HFB's. It's like Radiohead. They didn't have to change their formula after The Bends and Ok Computer since both were commercial successes yet they felt the desire to push forward, roll the dice, see what transpires. I'd like Noel to take a smaller leap of faith for once. Dave Sardy doesn't scream ambition to me but being status quo since 2005. I do agree with Lennon here. The success of Noel's later work, whether that's Dont Believe The Truth or High Flying Birds, isn't down to Dave Sardy. It's down to Noel himself - I hear top top quality tunes but there is nothing production wise that makes me go 'wow'. Dave Sardy is just rather dull. Again, I reiterate always when talking about production that I'm no producer myself!! But I struggle to think that someone like Nigel Godrich would think If I Had A Gun was great production. I do feel the best producers - the very very best - would advise Noel to keep away from the plodding meandering, full band tune it became and keep that haunted, atmospheric and eerie feeling that the soundcheck in 2009 gave us all. Sort of like Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska - he produced the album with the E Street Band but didn't feel it matched up to the raw and haunted feeling of the demos he recorded in his bedroom, and instead, kind of sucked the feeling from the album. As a result, the demos is the album we got, and nobody has heard the E Street Band version. It would be awesome if we got a producer who said, 'these are great songs, but I know how to make them greater'. I have nightmares thinking about how The Dying of the Light is going to turn out. There's a great song there - please don't fuck it up with Dave Sardy!!!
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Post by Velo on Jul 14, 2013 3:07:18 GMT -5
When was the last time a synth that wasn't a Mellotron, organ, or piano used on an Oasis album anyway, SOTSOG?
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Jul 14, 2013 4:51:11 GMT -5
If Noel is happy with the final product, then why would he tear it down? You're bringing up a subjective point. To you or to me he may not be putting out the tracks to their fullest potential, but if he likes what they turn out to be, then that's all that matters. At least if we're looking at it from his viewpoint. So if you're Noel and you're happy with the final products then why change? Especially if you're happy with what you've produced and success that's come along with it. And yes, I would say a renaissance. PYMWYMI is just as shit as ICSAL. SMC is bloated and WDIAGW is far too bland. On HC there's She is Love and The Hindu Times, and Force of Nature. Some dirges. I equate his "renaissance" just by the level of songs he was writing, but the consistency he was writing good songs at. And his consistency definitely went up with DBTT. On that album he became a consistently good songwriter again and it has carried through on DOYS and HFB's. HC sucked but that was a clear low point for everyone. For someone who seems to care about songwriting so much, you appear to be forgetting that quite a bit of DBTT was pretty average, it lacked all of the highs of SOTSOG (Roll it over, fucking in the bushes, who feels love, gas panic, go let it out), only maybe Lyla and TIOBI were on the level. Consistent, but worse than every previous effort bar HC. DOYS is better on Noels side no doubt, but GOYHHL is anything but showing consistency. I'm bringing out a subjective point? Isn't that what you do every single time you have a sentence with the word songwriting in it?
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Post by RUBIKON on Jul 14, 2013 4:53:00 GMT -5
The guy that met Noel was in front of Ignition records,Noel was there,the guy saw him so he waited with his friends that Noel came out,then they took photos and gave to him their new album...now what is Noel doing at Ignition records with a synth? Could be demos or whatever,but he's doing something,and that's make me fucking happy!!! Ignition is Noel's management company. He would have more than likely been going there to play some demos to them.
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Post by ruchin on Jul 14, 2013 6:51:52 GMT -5
Noel probably demo's all the time, not just inbetween records.
Thinking about it he already has demoed/sussed out; Freaky Teeth Dying of the Light God Help Us All Oh Lord She Must Be One of Us Just Let it Come Down Over Me. Come On Outside.
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Post by importantlyidle on Jul 14, 2013 8:40:18 GMT -5
It's possible he's got a record lined up, he obviously has demos and the AA stuff to work with. It's only a guess but I always thought he didn't expect the first album to take off like it did and the AA stuff got scrapped so he could use a few of those closer to his usual sound rather than the "i'm not happy with it" line.
My guess is he'll have an idea of how long Beady Eye are touring for and like last time release something after that making it more or less 3 years from the first album.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 14, 2013 11:24:06 GMT -5
If Noel is happy with the final product, then why would he tear it down? You're bringing up a subjective point. To you or to me he may not be putting out the tracks to their fullest potential, but if he likes what they turn out to be, then that's all that matters. At least if we're looking at it from his viewpoint. So if you're Noel and you're happy with the final products then why change? Especially if you're happy with what you've produced and success that's come along with it. And yes, I would say a renaissance. PYMWYMI is just as shit as ICSAL. SMC is bloated and WDIAGW is far too bland. On HC there's She is Love and The Hindu Times, and Force of Nature. Some dirges. I equate his "renaissance" just by the level of songs he was writing, but the consistency he was writing good songs at. And his consistency definitely went up with DBTT. On that album he became a consistently good songwriter again and it has carried through on DOYS and HFB's. HC sucked but that was a clear low point for everyone. For someone who seems to care about songwriting so much, you appear to be forgetting that quite a bit of DBTT was pretty average, it lacked all of the highs of SOTSOG (Roll it over, fucking in the bushes, who feels love, gas panic, go let it out), only maybe Lyla and TIOBI were on the level. Consistent, but worse than every previous effort bar HC. DOYS is better on Noels side no doubt, but GOYHHL is anything but showing consistency. I'm bringing out a subjective point? Isn't that what you do every single time you have a sentence with the word songwriting in it?Yes indeed. As I said, the only thing that matters is whether Noel is happy with the final product. Whether he gets the most out of any song may be your opinion, it may even be my opinion (that's where subjectivity comes in), but all that really matters is how Noel feels about it. So I would say he probably didn't get the most out of every song. But I'm not going to equate that opinion with his. By the decisions he has made and the fact that he keeps bringing back Sardy leads me to believe that he's happy with the outcome and that he's gotten the most out of the majority of the songs he's put out there. If he didn't believe that, then he probably wouldn't have had Sardy as a producer.
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Post by LlAM on Jul 14, 2013 13:29:20 GMT -5
His facebook update "Keep calm and listen to Oasis" all but confirms he's working on Oasis material.
I'm just sayin'
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jul 14, 2013 13:44:09 GMT -5
It's been two years since NGHFB. I'd be surprised if he wasn't working on something - the announcement in 2011 came out of the blue as well.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 14, 2013 14:16:59 GMT -5
His facebook update "Keep calm and listen to Oasis" all but confirms he's working on Oasis material. I'm just sayin' When was this? Noel's official page?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 14, 2013 22:29:14 GMT -5
His facebook update "Keep calm and listen to Oasis" all but confirms he's working on Oasis material. I'm just sayin' Dream On.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Jul 15, 2013 13:54:22 GMT -5
It's been two years since NGHFB. I'd be surprised if he wasn't working on something - the announcement in 2011 came out of the blue as well. 2 years..you're right. Seems like yesterday to me.
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