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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 14, 2013 17:32:18 GMT -5
Or do this: imagine that BE was the 1st album, and DGSS the 2nd album. All of you would be crazy about DGSS. I really like DGSS but disagree entirely here; the best thing about BE is that it's not the same 60s rock sound. Whatever anyone thinks of the songwriting quality - it suddenly sounds contemporary.
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Post by deasy on Jun 15, 2013 3:02:48 GMT -5
I haven't heard BE yet, I'll buy it this weekend when I get a chance. I'm hopeful and positive it will be better than DGSS though. I'll report back when I've heard it
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Post by deasy on Jun 15, 2013 6:22:50 GMT -5
Just having my first listen to BE. I'm on Face The Crowd. Solid start to the album imo. Flick of The Finger still sounds great.
Can't stand Second Bite of The Apple though and have no idea why it was the lead single.
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Post by The Chief on Jun 15, 2013 7:33:00 GMT -5
To me BE is awesome. DGSS is filled with fillers. The only songs on there that are good are Four Letter Word, Bring the Light, Wigwam, Three Ring Circus and The Morning Son. The others I can't stand.
On BE the only songs I skip are Face The Crowd and Iz Rite. The rest is great!
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Post by scott1 on Nov 22, 2013 17:10:16 GMT -5
They're both good in different ways. DGSS is like a McDonalds - cheaply made yet very enjoyable and you keep coming back.
BE is like a fruit salad - seen as much better for you, you like some of it but not a lot of people eat it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 22, 2013 17:44:06 GMT -5
It's "BE" by a knockout.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Nov 22, 2013 18:11:04 GMT -5
There seems to have been quite a re-writing of history about DGSS in the reviews. The 2 main points being: 1) It flopped massively in sales 2) It was critically savaged I think it was Noel who pointed out that DGSS sold nearly as many as the Arctic Monkeys album did and that wasn't considered a flop. Also, with 1 negative review out of 30 on metacritic www.metacritic.com/music/different-gear-still-speeding/beady-eye that suggests that most critics actually rather liked it! I think with critics many pointed out that the good reviews they did get always had the line of expecting to fall flat on their faces, so because it's not completely horrible, it's a success. When Noel's album came out many reviews naturally compared the two albums and that was when critics started to change their minds about DGSS. Rating given by those reviews aren't bad, but they don't read very enthusiastically about DGSS. I fucken hate how you always perceive things in a way that fit in line with the viewpoints you already hold. "the strongest record Liam's made" since (What's the Story) Morning Glory? implies much better that "not completely horrible". "Not being completely horrible" is not a basis for a positive music review, any good reviewer will have a 6 for a hypothetical equally worthy album by radiohead or by linkin park or by miles davis if they so happened to deserve the score. we could of course partially discredit reviewers, and hell music is subjective anyway so what the fuck are they doing but then why do you always need to be the one to bring them up? Critics started to change their mind about dgss when comparing to noels album. okay, please prove this hypothesis that you have pulled out of your ass and posted as fact. Perhaps the album sounded fresh at first then upon later listens failed to impress. perhaps they are changing their opinions to match the commercial success and the fanbases reaction. i find it very hard to read your posts without replying obscenely to each and every one edit: damn this was a six month old comment i replied to. i am the dickhead here, but im okay with that
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Post by spaneli on Nov 22, 2013 18:31:11 GMT -5
I think with critics many pointed out that the good reviews they did get always had the line of expecting to fall flat on their faces, so because it's not completely horrible, it's a success. When Noel's album came out many reviews naturally compared the two albums and that was when critics started to change their minds about DGSS. Rating given by those reviews aren't bad, but they don't read very enthusiastically about DGSS. I fucken hate how you always perceive things in a way that fit in line with the viewpoints you already hold. "the strongest record Liam's made" since (What's the Story) Morning Glory? implies much better that "not completely horrible". "Not being completely horrible" is not a basis for a positive music review, any good reviewer will have a 6 for a hypothetical equally worthy album by radiohead or by linkin park or by miles davis if they so happened to deserve the score. we could of course partially discredit reviewers, and hell music is subjective anyway so what the fuck are they doing but then why do you always need to be the one to bring them up? Critics started to change their mind about dgss when comparing to noels album. okay, please prove this hypothesis that you have pulled out of your ass and posted as fact. Perhaps the album sounded fresh at first then upon later listens failed to impress. perhaps they are changing their opinions to match the commercial success and the fanbases reaction. i find it very hard to read your posts without replying obscenely to each and every one edit: damn this was a six month old comment i replied to. i am the dickhead here, but im okay with that Well you said it not me. Secondly, I presented nothing as fact. Last time I checked, when someone begins a post with, "I think" that is someone stating an opinion, not trying to pass off as fact. So yes, I did present a hypothesis and I did present it as an opinion. Hence why I began my post with "I think". I think you may not agree with my opinion, you may not agree how I came to my own conclusion, but you could at least respect it and give it a proper read as I respect yours. Thank you.
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Post by birdyeye on Nov 23, 2013 0:38:18 GMT -5
be by far
dgss is good but cmon listen at liams voice
fucking full of effects, it makes me cry
be still have the autotune but without that million effects of dgss
and the music on be is better. they try something new a bit
cheers
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Post by bardes on Nov 23, 2013 8:05:22 GMT -5
be by far dgss is good but cmon listen at liams voice fucking full of effects, it makes me cry be still have the autotune but without that million effects of dgss and the music on be is better. they try something new a bit cheers Liam's voice in 2011 was amazing live, I think he really had the ability to sing songs like Some Might Say at the time. But in the studio was horrible, too many effects. Btw DGSS had great ballads.
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Post by birdyeye on Nov 23, 2013 18:17:04 GMT -5
be by far dgss is good but cmon listen at liams voice fucking full of effects, it makes me cry be still have the autotune but without that million effects of dgss and the music on be is better. they try something new a bit cheers Liam's voice in 2011 was amazing live, I think he really had the ability to sing songs like Some Might Say at the time. But in the studio was horrible, too many effects. Btw DGSS had great ballads. yeah i agree live was good but at studio was terrible, i dont know why the hell they put a million effects
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Post by space75gr on Nov 24, 2013 19:37:49 GMT -5
i still LOVE DGSS and i enjoy that album more than Noel's or a few oasis albums.So many great moments here and i dont give a fuck about anything else. again.An album with tracks such as "Four Letter word", "The Roller", 'The beat Goes On", "Bring The Light", "Wigwam", "Morning Son", "For Anyone". Millionaire" and "Kill For A Dream" in my ears sounds like a superb album, an hit machine. if that album was release in the good times for guitar music, many people would definitely have a different opinion about it...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 24, 2013 20:17:59 GMT -5
i still LOVE DGSS and i enjoy that album more than Noel's or a few oasis albums.So many great moments here and i dont give a fuck about anything else. again.An album with tracks such as "Four Letter word", "The Roller", 'The beat Goes On", "Bring The Light", "Wigwam", "Morning Son", "For Anyone". Millionaire" and "Kill For A Dream" in my ears sounds like a superb album, an hit machine. if that album was release in the good times for guitar music, many people would definitely have a different opinion about it... Fair enough. For me tunes like The Beat Goes On and Kill For A Dream are cliche rock n roll. It's like "paint by number" Oasis 101. On the flip side Four Letter Word is bitching, Millionaire is a lot of fun and The Morning Son has a great La's feel to it.
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 24, 2013 22:06:31 GMT -5
No contest here, BE by miles, better songs and better production.
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Post by MicknSiv on Nov 24, 2013 22:10:06 GMT -5
DGSS for me and it's not even close. BE was a major disappointment.
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Post by shinealight on Nov 25, 2013 6:07:36 GMT -5
BE all the way
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 28, 2013 14:54:23 GMT -5
BE all the way but Four Letter Word is still my favourite Beady Eye tune... Only just though, slightly ahead of Flick of the Finger. (Depending what day you ask me).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 18:11:46 GMT -5
I didn't mind DGSS, but as someone one said, it sounds like a band on autopilot. Nothing special. BE edges it for me, but as someone else once said it's more a step in the right direction than a leap forward.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 1, 2013 18:19:45 GMT -5
I still can't believe Off At The Next Exit, Back After The Break, Girls In Uniform and Evil Eye were merely bonus CD material. They toward over most songs on DGSS and BE.
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Post by warewolf95 on Dec 1, 2013 18:31:39 GMT -5
The way I see it - I fucking love DGSS. I don't understand the absolute hate it seems to get on here sometimes. No, its not the Masterplan, but for a debut its pretty fucking good. Nothing outright bad. It even has a few mini-classics (The Roller, 4LW, Millionaire, etc.) BE on the other hand, is fucking great. THIS is an album. DGSS was more like a pretty good collection of enjoyable songs BE is like "this is an ALBUM, this is ART, this is BEEEAAADDDYYY EEYYYYEEEE!!!!!!!" And yes, Liam's voice is fucking GREAT on BE
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Post by allingoodtime on Dec 5, 2013 7:46:12 GMT -5
Both are good albums, I think BE is slightly better though
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Post by bardes on Dec 5, 2013 8:03:31 GMT -5
DGSS has a few amazing songs (Wigwam, Roller, Three Ring Circus, Kill for a Dream, Four Letter Word) but others are weak.
Overall BE is better.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Dec 5, 2013 9:42:38 GMT -5
I think the best songs on BE (which for me are Flick of the Finger, Second Bite of the Apple, Iz Rite, Soon Come Tomorrow and I'm Just Saying) are better than the best ones on DGSS (for me Four Letter Word, The Roller, Bring the Light, Kill For a Dream).
Factor in the bonus tracks on BE and it's a clear winner for me.
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Post by shinealight on Feb 10, 2014 17:58:31 GMT -5
Just came home after a pub night, listening to BE...FUNKING AMAZING album...I must say...turn up the volume and listen. Shame the world already know who Liam is otherwise this would be labeled as an album of the year. And how long it s been since the release...ages...and still.......don t give me your evil eye...I'm off to do the air guitar:)
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Post by allingoodtime on Feb 10, 2014 18:03:04 GMT -5
Just came home after a pub night, listening to BE...FUNKING AMAZING album...I must say...turn up the volume and listen. Shame the world already know who Liam is otherwise this would be labeled as an album of the year. And how long it s been since the release...ages...and still.......don t give me your evil eye...I'm off to do the air guitar:) Someones drunk It is a good album though, BE get criticised mainly because of Oasis' legacy
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