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Post by alwaysnow on Apr 27, 2013 11:08:02 GMT -5
These are the brothers who had a recorded argument chart as a single in the UK, of course they're always going to be tied to one another. And it's nothing new that Liam has that "little brother complex" to try to prove that he can do things without his bigger brother and surpass him, so he's gonna throw a few jabs now and again given the chance.
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Post by jaq515 on Apr 27, 2013 11:09:18 GMT -5
Yea, Liam's 40 years old. How long has he been doing interviews? To be honest, I agree with kalas. People chalk up too many of Liam's quotes to the evil interviewer tricking him or Liam as the inexperience non press savvy guy who when he gets bombarded by Noel questions he automatically has to answer back to it or it will be a "no comment". I think he knows how to play the media a lot more than we think. And he's not the "naive" rock star, but a much more intelligent guy who knows that he gets bigger headlines when he makes Noel quotes. He's been doing it for too long, and it happened to him too much during the DGSS promotion, for him to be completely oblivious to what a Noel quote does for him in terms of attention. I think he's a much more intelligent guy when it comes to the press than people give him credit for. In many ways he's just as intelligent as Noel when it comes to the press. Exactly ,you both make really good points , my only assertion is Liam plays up the lad , thick as brick routine in general only during promotion time .... Don't know if he is as intelligent as Noel , but. Do know he is not the as thick as he portrays himself to be , he knows exactly when to dumb down  He is no rocket scientist thank god. But he ain't thick  only plays one to the press when promoting himself or his band . I agree all the riding the dog, to drunk to be served etc Is all good press when you have material out but do you think he's that fake where he only does that when he wants press? These were local pubs etc not night clubs with the pap outside. Im sure he probably frequents and gets battered more often then when he's got an album out. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 27, 2013 11:09:55 GMT -5
No one is saying he is 'oblivious' but he wear's his heart on his sleeve and if he is consistently asked about something that hurt him he going to say something about it, whether that is wrong or right its up to the reader to decide. Spaneli you weren't saying he was as media savvy as Noel a year ago. You are saying it now because it suits you. You can go back two years ago and see quotes, that the lines of Liam wearing his heart on his sleeve and Noel as the chronic manipulator are fan made. If you want to look through my posts you can Tom. But I can assure you, you will find those quotes from at least two years ago. I don't think I've ever called Liam, media dumb or non media savvy. Find it and I'll gladly talk to you about it, but I think you may have to go back at least three years to find it if it exists. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 27, 2013 11:14:33 GMT -5
Exactly ,you both make really good points , my only assertion is Liam plays up the lad , thick as brick routine in general only during promotion time .... Don't know if he is as intelligent as Noel , but. Do know he is not the as thick as he portrays himself to be , he knows exactly when to dumb down He is no rocket scientist thank god. But he ain't thick only plays one to the press when promoting himself or his band . I agree all the riding the dog, to drunk to be served etc Is all good press when you have material out but do you think he's that fake where he only does that when he wants press? These were local pubs etc not night clubs with the pap outside. Im sure he probably frequents and gets battered more often then when he's got an album out. To be honest, that's you characterizing him doing what the press wants. I believe he's doing what he wants. And there's no fakeness in that. That's called him highlighting things he might already feel and making sure it's a headline. He might be happy and proud that he moved away from the Oasis sound and from Noel.....is it fake to mention it in an interview if you know it will get you headlines? You do feel that way, you're just highlighting it. To me that's not fake. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 11:17:32 GMT -5
Exactly ,you both make really good points , my only assertion is Liam plays up the lad , thick as brick routine in general only during promotion time .... Don't know if he is as intelligent as Noel , but. Do know he is not the as thick as he portrays himself to be , he knows exactly when to dumb down He is no rocket scientist thank god. But he ain't thick only plays one to the press when promoting himself or his band . I agree all the riding the dog, to drunk to be served etc Is all good press when you have material out but do you think he's that fake where he only does that when he wants press? These were local pubs etc not night clubs with the pap outside. Im sure he probably frequents and gets battered more often then when he's got an album out. No I don't ,, I do think Liam crosses the line on occasion which is why the papparazzi follow him closer than say i don't know. Chris Martin ( for talk sake ) He did get his teeth handed to him a few years ago so I realize he does not always do it to be clever .. I do however think he knows when to dumb down .. But he does have tendencies to screw up , I don't think nearly as much as he did though . And I think lately its been to pump up the fans. , so it's a tough call not hedging just think its a bit of both He knows what he is doing , but as you say there are times he is Liam , Just not as much in my view |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 27, 2013 11:18:53 GMT -5
No one is saying he is 'oblivious' but he wear's his heart on his sleeve and if he is consistently asked about something that hurt him he going to say something about it, whether that is wrong or right its up to the reader to decide. Spaneli you weren't saying he was as media savvy as Noel a year ago. You are saying it now because it suits you. You can go back two years ago and see quotes, that the lines of Liam wearing his heart on his sleeve and Noel as the chronic manipulator are fan made. If you want to look through my posts you can Tom. But I can assure you, you will find those quotes from at least two years ago. I don't think I've ever called Liam, media dumb or non media savvy. Find it and I'll gladly talk to you about it, but I think you may have to go back at least three years to find it if it exists. Well I'll take your word for it as I'm not bothered enough to look those up. Regardless those opinions are not entirely fan made. Liam has certainly showed himself to be that sort of bloke, 'my words are my thoughts' I believe he once said and while Noel is hardly Dr Evil he definitely does a bit of clever media work. The press conference is a case in point. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 27, 2013 11:24:10 GMT -5
You can go back two years ago and see quotes, that the lines of Liam wearing his heart on his sleeve and Noel as the chronic manipulator are fan made. If you want to look through my posts you can Tom. But I can assure you, you will find those quotes from at least two years ago. I don't think I've ever called Liam, media dumb or non media savvy. Find it and I'll gladly talk to you about it, but I think you may have to go back at least three years to find it if it exists. Well I'll take your word for it as I'm not bothered enough to look those up. Regardless those opinions are not entirely fan made. Liam has certainly showed himself to be that sort of bloke, 'my words are my thoughts' I believe he once said and while Noel is hardly Dr Evil he definitely does a bit of clever media work. The press conference is a case in point. Fair enough Tom. I don't want to debate too much in threads, if you want to continue this discussion then just pm me. However, you do have a habit of misquoting me when the need suits you. Try to find a quote of mine's first before you attribute it to me. I think I asked that of you last time. Fair is fair. I try not misquote you, don't do it me when the need suits you. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 27, 2013 11:29:06 GMT -5
Well I'll take your word for it as I'm not bothered enough to look those up. Regardless those opinions are not entirely fan made. Liam has certainly showed himself to be that sort of bloke, 'my words are my thoughts' I believe he once said and while Noel is hardly Dr Evil he definitely does a bit of clever media work. The press conference is a case in point. Fair enough Tom. I don't want to debate too much in threads, if you want to continue this discussion then just pm me. However, you do have a habit of misquoting me when the need suits you. Try to find a quote of mine's first before you attribute it to me. I think I asked that of you last time. Fair is fair. I try not misquote you, don't do it me when the need suits you. I just go on what I remember. I'm not sifting through hundreds of post's so if I get it wrong sometimes then so be it, I'm sure you'll remind me. Its not something I'm to worried about tbh. In my opinion this particular one all started because Liam said something about Noel that annoyed you. Simple as that. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Apr 27, 2013 11:30:38 GMT -5
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Post by jaq515 on Apr 27, 2013 11:35:44 GMT -5
I agree all the riding the dog, to drunk to be served etc Is all good press when you have material out but do you think he's that fake where he only does that when he wants press? These were local pubs etc not night clubs with the pap outside. Im sure he probably frequents and gets battered more often then when he's got an album out. No I don't ,, I do think Liam crosses the line on occasion which is why the papparazzi follow him closer than say i don't know. Chris Martin ( for talk sake ) He did get his teeth handed to him a few years ago so I realize he does not always do it to be clever .. I do however think he knows when to dumb down .. But he does have tendencies to screw up , I don't think nearly as much as he did though . And I think lately its been to pump up the fans. , so it's a tough call not hedging just think its a bit of both He knows what he is doing , but as you say there are times he is Liam , Just not as much in my view I agree with all that you say man |
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Post by jaq515 on Apr 27, 2013 11:49:12 GMT -5
I agree all the riding the dog, to drunk to be served etc Is all good press when you have material out but do you think he's that fake where he only does that when he wants press? These were local pubs etc not night clubs with the pap outside. Im sure he probably frequents and gets battered more often then when he's got an album out. To be honest, that's you characterizing him doing what the press wants. I believe he's doing what he wants. And there's no fakeness in that. That's called him highlighting things he might already feel and making sure it's a headline. He might be happy and proud that he moved away from the Oasis sound and from Noel.....is it fake to mention it in an interview if you know it will get you headlines? You do feel that way, you're just highlighting it. To me that's not fake. I'm not characterising him at all tbh and I 100% agree he does what he wants which he always has and he wouldn't be Liam if he didn't. |
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Post by olesiadudnik on Apr 27, 2013 12:00:55 GMT -5
Daaayyyaammmm, can a nigga go out at night and not be analyzed to death!! ...I guess it goes with the territory. It's just me and against the world, bayebee. Fuckin' Thug Life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 12:17:44 GMT -5
Daaayyyaammmm, can a nigga go out at night and not be analyzed to death!! ...I guess it goes with the territory. It's just me and against the world, bayebee. Fuckin' Thug Life. You know what .... Your fucking absolutely right on that .... And I would be a hypocrite if I said anything other than that ..I do think he does it for the press on occasion but at the end of the day. He still is a fucker from burnage hope that never changes ....and I thought Staten Island was depressing. Except for the parties but that place is sorta dreary man |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 12:22:54 GMT -5
No I don't ,, I do think Liam crosses the line on occasion which is why the papparazzi follow him closer than say i don't know. Chris Martin ( for talk sake ) He did get his teeth handed to him a few years ago so I realize he does not always do it to be clever .. I do however think he knows when to dumb down .. But he does have tendencies to screw up , I don't think nearly as much as he did though . And I think lately its been to pump up the fans. , so it's a tough call not hedging just think its a bit of both He knows what he is doing , but as you say there are times he is Liam , Just not as much in my view I agree with all that you say man thanks I was asleep I just think Liam is alright at not such a dumb ass. But he does find himself in trouble more so in the past , but hey it'll still take him and his antics be it done to gain press or done out of him being Liam. Over Martin Luther bono. And. Cris Martin ,, can't believe I actually liked bono at one point in life , goes to show people change and you never really know is live or is it memorex. ( sorry old early 80s cheesy TV commercial in USA ). But toy get the point |
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Post by ruchin on Apr 27, 2013 12:23:07 GMT -5
There is also a Noel interview in it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 12:39:39 GMT -5
Liam has to be one of the most boring interviews ever.
Every interview for the last 10 years has gone something like this:
"It's good innit, it's just what we do man. You can buy it or don't buy it, it might be rubbish or you might think it's mega. We went to the studio and proper got on it, man, and I dig the way it sounds personally, but yeah man, it's good man."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 12:40:49 GMT -5
Liam has to be one of the most boring interviews ever. Every interview for the last 10 years has gone something like this: "It's good innit, it's just what we do man. You can buy it or don't buy it, it might be rubbish or you might think it's mega. We went to the studio and proper got on it, man, and I dig the way it sounds personally, but yeah man, it's good man." Damn epps gone radical right on me   you do seem very presidential I must say geez |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 12:47:06 GMT -5
]Damn epps gone radical right on me you do seem very presidential I must say geez Haha, just watch what you say kalas or you'll be my guest at Guantanamo Bay.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 12:49:51 GMT -5
]Damn epps gone radical right on me you do seem very presidential I must say geez Haha, just watch what you say kalas or you'll be my guest at Guantanamo Bay. Fuck no man ,, I'm chlostrophobic Seriously I am. I hate being trapped in or enclosed. So better not give me any trade secrets  Nah. I am chlostrophobic but we are come from there is no such thing as a rat man |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 27, 2013 13:32:17 GMT -5
Liam has to be one of the most boring interviews ever. Every interview for the last 10 years has gone something like this: "It's good innit, it's just what we do man. You can buy it or don't buy it, it might be rubbish or you might think it's mega. We went to the studio and proper got on it, man, and I dig the way it sounds personally, but yeah man, it's good man." And then two years later Liam reveals his true feelings regarding DGSS. The truth only comes out when the promotional cycle is over. This applies to all artists and bands. I find these the MOST interesting interviews. |
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Post by Peter Irish on Apr 27, 2013 14:50:10 GMT -5
''Liam Gallagher is promising the second Beady Eye album will be the most "experiment" he's ever been involved with - and its sonic innovation will make his brother Noel jealous. Speaking in our new issue, Q319 out now, he gives Q the latest on his bands new record, admitting they have some work do after the disappointment of their debut. "It was done off the back of Oasis, it wasn't progressive enough, it hadn't moved on," declares the singer. "There were good moments but it just didn't connect. This one, people might hate it too but it's no so stuck in its '60s rut. Obviously there's Lennon vibes in there but we've turned it on its head. Not that the pressure's on or anything but it's a really important record for me. If no one buys it, it's back to the drawing board. So we'll see. I'm prepared for whatever." The Beady Eye leader also added that his "sad" looking brother Noel "won't be happy when he hears we've done an out-there record that we're going to fucking release before him".'' This was said ages ago. It has nothing to do with the q interview. And people saying that LG goes to one of his local bars with his mates, gets hammered and has a laugh all in the search of publicity for an upcoming album are in my view somewhat off the mark. He's never in the papers giving interviews, any quotes are from magazines or so called onlookers. Although he's always up for getting his photo taken wether its for a fan or for a pap he loves the lens which is no surprise as he is a feckin rock star, although one of the few who allows everyone to take a snap when he's out and about. He doesn't have to court the press, they seek him out, because he's intriguing and a loose cannon which is one of the main reasons he has kept my attention since the 90's. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 15:30:05 GMT -5
Noel clearly looked at the full arenas and pussied out of releasing the album he actually wanted to release. It was clear from the original press conference that the AA album was the one he cared about. His failure to release it is fair game imo.
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Post by jaq515 on Apr 27, 2013 15:36:33 GMT -5
Noel clearly looked at the full arenas and pussied out of releasing the album he actually wanted to release. It was clear from the original press conference that the AA album was the one he cared about. His failure to release it is fair game imo. This is 100% true. I've said the same. The way he was talking about the AA album at that press conference he was so passionate about it vs HFB. He also said in interviews that he wanted the AA first but mgt didn't, that was the album and HFB's was the Bums on seats album to tour. One of the first tweets from him was saying he had 2 albums completed and ready to go. The mixing problems is just excuses maybe he's now trying to commercialise / water it down but it is a big big shame for him and us he bottled it |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 15:48:50 GMT -5
I think it's dead in the water. Any songs that can become more standard Noel fare will appear on the next album in different form. Absolute best case scenario is that he releases it as disc two on a deluxe version of the next album, but I don't think we'll even see that.
But anyway, Beady Eye...
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Post by jaq515 on Apr 27, 2013 15:55:29 GMT -5
It was 1/2 relevant as maybe Liam's jab about them releasing a 'far out there' record before noel is cos he knew how much Noel wanted that AA album out there.
When noel was recording his albums they were still on the same mgt and noel mentioned AA as much as he could during the DOYS era so Liam knows what it means to Noel (I'd guess)
I think we will get it at some point but in a much more conventional / commercial way.
But like you say anyway...
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you do seem very presidential I must say geez 
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