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Post by nedsatomicdustbin on Apr 15, 2013 10:17:03 GMT -5
It doesn't go nowhere
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Post by MacaRonic on Apr 15, 2013 10:24:43 GMT -5
What movie is that again NYR ? The Big Lebowski... brilliant movie. |
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Post by olesiadudnik on Apr 15, 2013 10:25:50 GMT -5
Flick of the finger has a very uncommon structure for a song, but it is a great song. I see it like a hymn, there is one single melody/tune throughout the song and it matches perfect. You should give it a try as a different music, stop listening to the basic verse-chorus-verse-chorus song. And when people say: it goes nowhere, they better think it´s their problem, not the music. Sorry, but it goes nowhere and to be honest that has nothing to do with the structure. The structure is fine. It's far too simplistic to say, if you think it goes nowhere then you're not used to listening to different structures. You can have a loop structure and have variation through instrumentation. In the end you're working a key and anything you play in that key will sound good in terms of instrumentation. So to be honest, there's no reason to loop the same lyrics and the same horn sound, and same drums over and over again. That has nothing to do with structure. That's just a complete lack of variation that goes nowhere. I can buy alwaysnow saying it's more trying to fit a mood than anything else (which is why I think it's a pretty decent to good song), but saying that the problem is that people aren't used to listening to different structures just seems very music elitist. The drums are flat, the vocal is good...a bit nasally, and it's the same loop without any instrumental variation. Can anybody tell me what this motherfucker is going on about?? ...I dunno, it sounds a bit like a first year English novice trying out some Hegelian prose whilst commenting on Hegel. ...Nevermind. You will go far, young man!!! you will go far.... |
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Post by thetruth on Apr 15, 2013 10:27:23 GMT -5
It's got balls.
Best vocals since a very long time, it's got swagger and attitude. That's what I'm looking for in a Gallagher tune.
The lack of variation is not a issue as long as it's working, and there, it's working very well.
Remind me a little of Columbia or Soldier On.
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Post by psj3809 on Apr 15, 2013 10:28:43 GMT -5
I'm not a negative guy. In fact I love almost everything Oasis did and for the most part Beady eye. I think different gear still speeding was a decent album. Love Liam's voice even today. I rarely have a negative thing to say. With that said how is there "praise" for this song. It goes absolutely no where. Has lyrics that are just nonsense about nothing. Melody is well horrid. The brass section makes the intro interesting but that's about it. I still think we will have a decent album but come on what are you guys hearing?  ?? Fair enough dont worry. I wasnt keen when i first heard Bring the Light and i normally skip past that track if it comes on (Is good played live though). We're not going to all love the same songs, when i first heard Flick of the Finger i was surprised as i was expecting something more 'oasis-eey' so i was quite surprised, thought it was really good and its grown and grown on me I do think people look into 'some' of BDI's/Oasis songs a bit too much though or moan about the lyrics, i mean Roll with It has terrible lyrics but is a great tune. Think people analyse stuff too much. If you dont like it fair enough |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 10:28:58 GMT -5
[/img][/quote] What movie is that again NYR ? [/quote] The Big Lebowski... brilliant movie. [/quote] Cheers man Couldn't place it. Thanks Hey I'm gonna tag u in thought , question |
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Post by cosmos on Apr 15, 2013 10:42:36 GMT -5
It's got balls. Best vocals since a very long time, it's got swagger and attitude. That's what I'm looking for in a Gallagher tune. The lack of variation is not a issue as long as it's working, and there, it's working very well. Remind me a little of Columbia or Soldier On. Finally somebody got it... |
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Post by leak4ever on Apr 15, 2013 10:43:34 GMT -5
It doesn't suck but it is starting to get boring already.
How can a song not have a chorus? Or even a proper end?
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Post by alwaysnow on Apr 15, 2013 10:47:10 GMT -5
but saying that the problem is that people aren't used to listening to different structures just seems very music elitist. Not meant in an elitist way, I'm not saying you are a better or worse person/fan if you don't like other song structures. If Beady Eye would've suddenly gone all shoegaze-y, some people would hate it and some would probably love it, based on if they like shoegaze or not. Same in this case, change divides opinions. |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Apr 15, 2013 11:28:12 GMT -5
If this is one of the best song's on the album then Beady eye are in trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 11:35:14 GMT -5
If this is one of the best song's on the album then Beady eye are in trouble. Not really because a lot of people love it, you mean... if this is one of the best song's on the album then I won't like the album or IN MY OPINION, beady eye are in trouble... |
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Post by dreamweaver on Apr 15, 2013 11:44:24 GMT -5
I actually really like it and I for one believe there are no rules within Music, Hate it when we limit ourselves with structures. Roll with it (no pun intended) but yeh......
I actually strive in my songs to change the structure to not follow the pattern so fair play to BDI on this track.
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Post by WirralRiddler on Apr 15, 2013 11:54:05 GMT -5
I don't get why many dislike Bring the Light. I actually like that song, one of BE, s best so far for me. Confuses me when people slate it.
Each to their own I supppse.
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Post by Tapir on Apr 15, 2013 11:57:06 GMT -5
I don't get why many dislike Bring the Light. I actually like that song, one of BE, s best so far for me. Confuses me when people slate it. Each to their own I supppse. I don't hate it, just doesn't do anything for me |
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Post by thetruth on Apr 15, 2013 12:07:57 GMT -5
It's got balls. Best vocals since a very long time, it's got swagger and attitude. That's what I'm looking for in a Gallagher tune. The lack of variation is not a issue as long as it's working, and there, it's working very well. Remind me a little of Columbia or Soldier On. Finally somebody got it... I'll add that FOTF is the first time since the band has splitted that I feel like listening to an Oasis tune again. Not a Noel's ballad, but a real Liam's banger. And I think this song would have fit perfectly on DOYS. Can't wait for the album ! And it's a good thing that the production makes the song better. It's the point of a producer. All those poorly produced album that actually make good song sound bad like with HFB have made people fogot all about that. If a song is good, then is good, the fact that it would be bad on an accoustic guitar is irrelevant if the song isn't recorded that way. If it's sounds great whith brass, then who cares what is gonna sound on an accoustic guitar ? Try and play an electronic album on a accoustic guitar, you'll understand what I mean. If a song is good, then it's good, wo cares that it's got no chorus ? If the song works as a loop then great, as long as it's working. Am I bored when I hear it ? Well no, not at all, I'm carried away, drag into that loop, then I'm happy. I think the horrible on HFB production have damaged people, instead of being happy with the song the way it is, they have to look what the song would look like whithout this and that. It's not necessary here. The song is great the way it is, it's not HFB where all the songs were good but damaged by the production. There's actually a producer on this record. Then again if despite of all that you still don't like it for what it is, fair enough. |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Apr 15, 2013 12:19:11 GMT -5
I couldn't disagree more there really. Hfb has not been ruined by bad production, no chance. If anything I would say fotf is actually guilty of being 'over produced' imo, and when I heard that acoustic cover on you tube I thought it suited the song better.
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Post by rockstar2004 on Apr 15, 2013 12:22:59 GMT -5
the only good thing about it is the horns, without them the song would be terrible
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Post by WirralRiddler on Apr 15, 2013 12:54:05 GMT -5
the only good thing about it is the horns, without them the song would be terrible I dont agree. Personally. The horns are good yes, but I dont think they suit the song/lyrics. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 15, 2013 12:56:03 GMT -5
It's got balls. Best vocals since a very long time, it's got swagger and attitude. That's what I'm looking for in a Gallagher tune. The lack of variation is not a issue as long as it's working, and there, it's working very well. Remind me a little of Columbia or Soldier On. Funnily enough Columbia does have variation. It's instrumental variation comes in the guitar work. |
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Post by rockstar2004 on Apr 15, 2013 13:01:42 GMT -5
the only good thing about it is the horns, without them the song would be terrible I dont agree. Personally. The horns are good yes, but I dont think they suit the song/lyrics. to each their own, the song just doesn't do it for me. I was a little disappointed |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 15, 2013 13:03:40 GMT -5
Sorry, but it goes nowhere and to be honest that has nothing to do with the structure. The structure is fine. It's far too simplistic to say, if you think it goes nowhere then you're not used to listening to different structures. You can have a loop structure and have variation through instrumentation. In the end you're working a key and anything you play in that key will sound good in terms of instrumentation. So to be honest, there's no reason to loop the same lyrics and the same horn sound, and same drums over and over again. That has nothing to do with structure. That's just a complete lack of variation that goes nowhere. I can buy alwaysnow saying it's more trying to fit a mood than anything else (which is why I think it's a pretty decent to good song), but saying that the problem is that people aren't used to listening to different structures just seems very music elitist. The drums are flat, the vocal is good...a bit nasally, and it's the same loop without any instrumental variation. 1. You still say: it goes nowhere. Where the fuck do you want it to take you? It´s not the song, it´s the people. They should let themselves go with the flow, feel the vibe of the song (which in the case of FOTF it´s amazing)You should´ve read (well) the first post of this thread to understand my point. And by your comments on structure and instrumentation, you actually make a very informed comment on it, therefore you are the elitist. You are complaining about drums, nasal vocals, loops? You are a snob, man. Who cares about nasal vocals when the song is able to cheer up people? Yes, you answered right: elitist people. I think you took what I had to say personal, and instead of responding back with another well informed comment (as an adult would do), you lashed out. I think you should realize your opinion is not really a personal stake and just an opinion and not take a contrary opinion as an all out attack on your sensibilities. |
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Post by cosmos on Apr 15, 2013 13:30:27 GMT -5
1. You still say: it goes nowhere. Where the fuck do you want it to take you? It´s not the song, it´s the people. They should let themselves go with the flow, feel the vibe of the song (which in the case of FOTF it´s amazing)You should´ve read (well) the first post of this thread to understand my point. And by your comments on structure and instrumentation, you actually make a very informed comment on it, therefore you are the elitist. You are complaining about drums, nasal vocals, loops? You are a snob, man. Who cares about nasal vocals when the song is able to cheer up people? Yes, you answered right: elitist people. I think you took what I had to say personal, and instead of responding back with another well informed comment (as an adult would do), you lashed out. I think you should realize your opinion is not really a personal stake and just an opinion and not take a contrary opinion as an all out attack on your sensibilities. hahahah says somebody who took it personally and feels attacked... come up with something smarter, my friend. |
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Post by cosmos on Apr 15, 2013 13:40:08 GMT -5
Finally somebody got it... I'll add that FOTF is the first time since the band has splitted that I feel like listening to an Oasis tune again. Not a Noel's ballad, but a real Liam's banger. And I think this song would have fit perfectly on DOYS. Can't wait for the album ! And it's a good thing that the production makes the song better. It's the point of a producer. All those poorly produced album that actually make good song sound bad like with HFB have made people fogot all about that. If a song is good, then is good, the fact that it would be bad on an accoustic guitar is irrelevant if the song isn't recorded that way. If it's sounds great whith brass, then who cares what is gonna sound on an accoustic guitar ? Try and play an electronic album on a accoustic guitar, you'll understand what I mean. If a song is good, then it's good, wo cares that it's got no chorus ? If the song works as a loop then great, as long as it's working. Am I bored when I hear it ? Well no, not at all, I'm carried away, drag into that loop, then I'm happy. I think the horrible on HFB production have damaged people, instead of being happy with the song the way it is, they have to look what the song would look like whithout this and that. It's not necessary here. The song is great the way it is, it's not HFB where all the songs were good but damaged by the production. There's actually a producer on this record. Then again if despite of all that you still don't like it for what it is, fair enough. That is exactly what I think. Actually, those who care about production and nasal vocals and so on, take a look at some Oasis songs where the production was poor but the song amazing just because the song had its own soul. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 15, 2013 14:25:25 GMT -5
I think you took what I had to say personal, and instead of responding back with another well informed comment (as an adult would do), you lashed out. I think you should realize your opinion is not really a personal stake and just an opinion and not take a contrary opinion as an all out attack on your sensibilities. hahahah says somebody who took it personally and feels attacked... come up with something smarter, my friend. Not really....but if you wish to carry on then fair enough to you. To each their own |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Apr 15, 2013 14:56:54 GMT -5
I was happy when I thought it was just going to be an album track, but the first single is usually one of the best songs on the album.
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