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Post by fabulousbakers on Apr 2, 2013 18:42:50 GMT -5
Here's how it plays on my ipod and CDr. With a run time of around 79 mins it fits on a single CD and there's no need to limit it to 10 tracks.
01. EVERYBODY'S ON THE RUN
02. DREAM ON
03. IF I HAD A GUN
04. THE DEATH OF YOU AND ME
05. THE GOOD REBEL
06. A SIMPLE GAME OF GENIUS
07. AKA... WHAT A LIFE
08. (I WANNA LIVE IN A DREAM IN MY) RECORD MACHINE
09. SOLDIER BOYS AND JESUS FREAKS
10. ALONE ON A ROPE
11. (STRANDED ON) THE WRONG BEACH
12. AKA... BROKEN ARROW
13. LET THE LORD SHINE A LIGHT ON ME
14. STOP THE CLOCKS
15. I'D PICK YOU EVERY TIME
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Post by gdforever on Apr 2, 2013 18:49:08 GMT -5
You have to admit that was a weird way of phrasing it.  I gave my head a shake when I first read it too. Even taking it as you meant it though. Do you really only evaluate artists in the the context of their own previous output? One thing I hate is when people compare artists at all, usually, especially if they are totally different. So having said that, I dont usually evaluate the artist outside of the context of their previous/related output. Like, if someone were to compare an Iron Maiden album to a Black Sabbath album, Id freak because they are so completely different. Maybe its just me, but I dont see how one can evaluate an artist outside the context of their own material if one wishes to have semi-fair results What on earth do you do when an artist debuts? For the OP. I'm actually surprised that I think that Noel got the album listing right for once. Can't imagine putting IPYET on the album. Definitely quirky b-side material for me. I don't think I's want AOTR on it either as think it's vibe would be a bit jarring. ASGOG might be good...but I'm fine with it as a bonus track. Don't the album would have been dramatically better with it on. LTLSALOM could work in lieu of STC or RM...but again I like how those songs fit in in context. Although I'd rather listen to LTLSALOM that STC on it's own any day. I think there is a nice flow and I wouldn't really change anything about it at all. It's an album as much as a collection of songs. Actually sounds better wen listened to as a piece. And I would disagree with anyone that says it's too short. I'm glad it doesn't overstay it's welcome.  |
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 2, 2013 19:03:24 GMT -5
I can't help but say it. This is how I think Oasis would've sounded like if they started up in the 2000's (the instruments and production, not the singing)
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Post by warewolf95 on Apr 2, 2013 19:03:53 GMT -5
One thing I hate is when people compare artists at all, usually, especially if they are totally different. So having said that, I dont usually evaluate the artist outside of the context of their previous/related output. Like, if someone were to compare an Iron Maiden album to a Black Sabbath album, Id freak because they are so completely different. Maybe its just me, but I dont see how one can evaluate an artist outside the context of their own material if one wishes to have semi-fair results What on earth do you do when an artist debuts? For the OP. I'm actually surprised that I think that Noel got the album listing right for once. Can't imagine putting IPYET on the album. Definitely quirky b-side material for me. I don't think I's want AOTR on it either as think it's vibe would be a bit jarring. ASGOG might be good...but I'm fine with it as a bonus track. Don't the album would have been dramatically better with it on. LTLSALOM could work in lieu of STC or RM...but again I like how those songs fit in in context. Although I'd rather listen to LTLSALOM that STC on it's own any day. I think there is a nice flow and I wouldn't really change anything about it at all. It's an album as much as a collection of songs. Actually sounds better wen listened to as a piece. And I would disagree with anyone that says it's too short. I'm glad it doesn't overstay it's welcome. I completely agree with your view on the album As for answering your question - When I get an artists debut album (if it is their only album), I judge it mainly on my personal enjoyment of it. Nothin to legitimately say, for me, until I have some more material to then compare it to Take DGSS for instance - I enjoy the SHIT outta that album. While I do personally love 90 percent of it, I understand others qualms about it and am then able to view it in the light of another person's opinion, thereby expanding my own view of the album to include a broader perspective |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 3, 2013 2:12:35 GMT -5
What on earth do you do when an artist debuts? For the OP. I'm actually surprised that I think that Noel got the album listing right for once. Can't imagine putting IPYET on the album. Definitely quirky b-side material for me. I don't think I's want AOTR on it either as think it's vibe would be a bit jarring. ASGOG might be good...but I'm fine with it as a bonus track. Don't the album would have been dramatically better with it on. LTLSALOM could work in lieu of STC or RM...but again I like how those songs fit in in context. Although I'd rather listen to LTLSALOM that STC on it's own any day. I think there is a nice flow and I wouldn't really change anything about it at all. It's an album as much as a collection of songs. Actually sounds better wen listened to as a piece. And I would disagree with anyone that says it's too short. I'm glad it doesn't overstay it's welcome. I completely agree with your view on the album As for answering your question - When I get an artists debut album (if it is their only album), I judge it mainly on my personal enjoyment of it. Nothin to legitimately say, for me, until I have some more material to then compare it to Take DGSS for instance - I enjoy the SHIT outta that album. While I do personally love 90 percent of it, I understand others qualms about it and am then able to view it in the light of another person's opinion, thereby expanding my own view of the album to include a broader perspective I see. I tend to evaluate everything I listen to according to personal enjoyment which kind of feeds in to evaluating against my personal music collection. Doesn't matter how many albums they have produced. At the end of the day music is all subjective. There is no such thing as true objective appraisal even if looking at something in the context of their previous work. It's part of the reason that I liked keeping track of things like chart performance. It's something to pay attention to that can be discussed objectively...which is a relief sometimes amongst all the threads here reflecting personal opinions and people stating things like, "I respect other people's opinions but anyone that thinks X is wrong/delusional" (see the Wonderwall vote thread). |
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Post by warewolf95 on Apr 3, 2013 16:43:02 GMT -5
*facepalm* I meant in the realm of the Oasis-related. Trust me - I DEFINITELY listen to a shitload more than most people here do, lol. I tihnk my 240gb ipod can attest to that, lol! Don't face palm me, ya cheeky brat. Some of your writing is ambiguous and leaves room for unintended interpretations. That's not the fault of the reader. It's yours. right on. Ill be the first to admit that i can often be shitty about getting the words from my head to the keyboard |
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Post by Jim on Apr 4, 2013 9:16:21 GMT -5
01 Everybody's On the Run
02 Freaky Teeth
03 If I Had a Gun... (Demo Style)
04 The Death of You and Me
05 Come On Outside
06 AKA... What a Life!
07 Alone On the Rope
08 Let The Lord Shine a Light On Me
09 (Stranded On The) Wrong Beach
10 A Simple Game of Genius
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Post by cloudburster on Apr 13, 2013 16:29:29 GMT -5
Its gotta go
1. Everybody's On The Run
2. Dream On
3. If I Had A Gun
4. The Death Of You And Me
5. Alone On The Rope
6. AKA What A Life
7. Freaky Teeth
8. AKA Broken Arrow
9. Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me
10. A Simple Game Of Genius
Far better
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Apr 13, 2013 17:03:39 GMT -5
1. Everybody's On The Run
2. Dream On
3. If I Had A Gun
4. Freaky Teeth
5. Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me
6. What A Life
7. Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks
8. Broken Arrow
9. Stranded On The Wrong Beach
10. A Simple Game of Genius
There's not a lot wrong with the album, I just don't really like the three songs I left out and do like the three I replaced them with.
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Post by GIMH on Apr 13, 2013 17:36:21 GMT -5
Probably just swap Soldier Boys for let The Lord and then reshuffle a few tracks if needed.
Mind you, I like Freaky Teeth better than anything on the album but only considered properly released song.
Similarly I love shoot a hole but don't think that would really work. And ASGOG is already on there really.
So
EOTR
Dream On
If I had a gun
tDOYAM
Record Machine
What a life
Let The Lord
Broken arrow
Wrong beach
Stop the clocks
Not sure about how to reshuffle that. Don't really want Let The Lord followed by spot the clocks. Hmmm. Might have to sub it back out. Good rebel and is pick you every time are also better than soldier boys so no big deal
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Post by Master Wanker on Apr 14, 2013 17:51:00 GMT -5
changing the cover it's shit |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 14, 2013 18:39:56 GMT -5
changing the cover it's shit God yes! Particularly sad since I thought the single covers were great! |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Apr 14, 2013 18:55:12 GMT -5
the production on the album cover is flat.......
God bless.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 14, 2013 20:25:18 GMT -5
the production on the album cover is flat....... God bless. Give it a rest. You're being unusually boring God bless |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Apr 14, 2013 20:30:02 GMT -5
the production on the album cover is flat....... God bless. Give it a rest. You're being unusually boring God bless the writing and production on this post is flat.....  lighten up, woman!!!! fuck yeah! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 14, 2013 20:30:58 GMT -5
changing the cover it's shit God yes! Particularly sad since I thought the single covers were great! The cover of "The Death of You and Me" would have been my choice. Great photography and Noel looks dead cool in it. A missed opportunity for sure... |
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Post by yearzero on Apr 14, 2013 22:38:21 GMT -5
God yes! Particularly sad since I thought the single covers were great! The cover of "The Death of You and Me" would have been my choice. Great photography and Noel looks dead cool in it. A missed opportunity for sure... I agree Probably my favourite out of all the singles covers. It's the tilt of the camera and the lighting, and Noel's cool posture. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 14, 2013 22:44:03 GMT -5
The cover of "The Death of You and Me" would have been my choice. Great photography and Noel looks dead cool in it. A missed opportunity for sure... I agree Probably my favourite out of all the singles covers. It's the tilt of the camera and the lighting, and Noel's cool posture. For guy who likes telling the press how good looking he is, he sure doesn't like to be in music videos for the most part, album covers and single covers. How very Zeppelin of him.  |
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Post by yearzero on Apr 14, 2013 23:15:05 GMT -5
I agree Probably my favourite out of all the singles covers. It's the tilt of the camera and the lighting, and Noel's cool posture. For guy who likes telling the press how good looking he is, he sure doesn't like to be in music videos for the most part, album covers and single covers. How very Zeppelin of him. I just see Noel's comments about himself as mostly tongue-in-cheek (like his comments about being #1 on the Chart of Lust, or whatever it's called  ). As for the music videos and all that, Noel obviously can't be arsed spending hours waiting around film sets and miming his songs. Can't say I really blame him! But honestly, if there's something I really would have improved for HFB, more than the tracklisting, more than the album cover...it would have to be the music videos. Sorry, but I really didn't like them, except The Death of You and Me, and parts of What a Life. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 14, 2013 23:16:45 GMT -5
For guy who likes telling the press how good looking he is, he sure doesn't like to be in music videos for the most part, album covers and single covers. How very Zeppelin of him. I just see Noel's comments about himself as mostly tongue-in-cheek (like his comments about being #1 on the Chart of Lust, or whatever it's called ). As for the music videos and all that, Noel obviously can't be arsed spending hours waiting around film sets and miming his songs. Can't say I really blame him! But honestly, if there's something I really would have improved for HFB, more than the tracklisting, more than the album cover...it would have to be the music videos. Sorry, but I really didn't like them, except The Death of You and Me, and parts of What a Life. Yeah I was mostly just kidding but that is the Zeppelin/Pearl Jam/Radiohead way. Let the music do the talking, no band images. |
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Post by yearzero on Apr 14, 2013 23:22:03 GMT -5
I just see Noel's comments about himself as mostly tongue-in-cheek (like his comments about being #1 on the Chart of Lust, or whatever it's called ). As for the music videos and all that, Noel obviously can't be arsed spending hours waiting around film sets and miming his songs. Can't say I really blame him! But honestly, if there's something I really would have improved for HFB, more than the tracklisting, more than the album cover...it would have to be the music videos. Sorry, but I really didn't like them, except The Death of You and Me, and parts of What a Life. Yeah I was mostly just kidding but that is the Zeppelin/Pearl Jam/Radiohead way. Let the music do the talking, no band images. Oh yeah I know It's the best way, I think. And performing live, Noel's the same way, he hasn't got any "dance moves" as he says He'll just let the songs speak for themselves. |
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Post by live4everfessi on Apr 15, 2013 13:30:21 GMT -5
Less shite dadrock which middle class people download to play on low volume at dinner parties and never play again would be an improvement.
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Post by WirralRiddler on Apr 15, 2013 13:58:46 GMT -5
Less shite dadrock which middle class people download to play on low volume at dinner parties and never play again would be an improvement. Its not that bad surely? But in a way I do get what you mean I think, and I must say I've been listening to my 10 tracks as in the OP a lot lately, and I think it flows better and suffers less with what you're saying. Sort of why I started the thread really. |
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Post by Tapir on Apr 15, 2013 14:51:37 GMT -5
I'd replace "Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks" with "A Simple Game Of Genius"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 7:07:49 GMT -5
You're all wrong.
It just needed Gem to write all the songs.
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I gave my head a shake when I first read it too.
). As for the music videos and all that, Noel obviously can't be arsed spending hours waiting around film sets and miming his songs. Can't say I really blame him! 
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