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Post by yearzero on Mar 31, 2013 15:48:50 GMT -5
This is a great thread. I would keep a lot of the album as it is, but would swap out some for b-sides and demos, as others have already mentioned: 1. Everybody's on the Run 2. If I Had a Gun 3. The Death of You and Me 4. She Must Be One of Us 5. AKA...What a Life! 6. AKA...Broken Arrow 7. Soldier Boys and Jesus Freak 8. Freaky Teeth 9. The Dying of the Light 10. A Simple Game of Genius That's not necessarily the exact tracklisting order, but I do like EOTR as the opener and ASGOG as the closing track. And The Dying of the Light is so beautiful in its simplicity, that I had to include that somewhere. I just hope that if Noel ever releases the studio version of Dying of the Light that it doesn't get too overproduced, because that's one song that doesn't need it. I actually quite like the choir effect of EOTR
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Post by yearzero on Mar 31, 2013 15:54:49 GMT -5
Shit, I wish I could hear Liam singing that. I can just imagine Liam and Noel harmonizing on this in the way they did on The Turning. I agree There are definitely some songs that I've imagined both Noel and Liam's vocals on, and this is one of them. But still, I think Noel does a great job on the song by himself. ...now I think maybe I should have included Come on Outside in my ideal tracklisting. Maybe I'd throw it in as a bonus track
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 16:12:33 GMT -5
Shit, I wish I could hear Liam singing that. I can just imagine Liam and Noel harmonizing on this in the way they did on The Turning. I agree There are definitely some songs that I've imagined both Noel and Liam's vocals on, and this is one of them. But still, I think Noel does a great job on Think I ate enough for a week man! I hate holidays where I gotta break my OCD routines of eating . But to get your point year. That's my main problem with them apart one of the many reasons I can't get fired up like I used to as I said will see them support them thru sales but don't have the same passion ( as do other members here I speak with and who's opinions I regard greater than my own) .....I am so used to hearing them together. Noel on background. Or when Noel steps out. That is why both bands leaves me shallow and missing that spark .. There is something about them together singing or even when the lp broke and we wondered which tracks Noel would keep , would it have sounded better with Liam? How would Liam have interpreted it ? ..so much more could have been explored ....
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Post by Ash & Debris on Mar 31, 2013 16:21:42 GMT -5
1. Everybody's on the Run 2. Freaky Teeth 3. The Death of You and Me 4. If I Had a Gun 5. Alone On The Rope 6. AKA...What a Life! 7. The Dying of the Light 8. AKA...Broken Arrow 9. Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me 10. A Simple Game of Genius
Greatest Album of all time. Noel had an opportunity to replace 5 fillers with 5 classic songs but totally butchered it as a result of placing too much importance on "flow" and "story". Nobody will care about flow and story 50 years from now if each and every song on the record is a stone dead classic. It's really too bad that so many of these songs will forever remain unknown and never be heard by anyone who's not a hardcore Oasis fan.
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Post by mouth on Mar 31, 2013 16:41:40 GMT -5
1. everybody's on the run 2. just let it come down over me 3. death of you and me 4. broken arrow 5. if i had a gun 6. freaky teeth 7. what a life 8. alone on the rope 9. i'd pick you every time 10. simple game of genius
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 16:51:41 GMT -5
1. Everybody's on the Run 2. Freaky Teeth 3. The Death of You and Me 4. If I Had a Gun 5. Alone On The Rope 6. AKA...What a Life! 7. The Dying of the Light 8. AKA...Broken Arrow 9. Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me 10. A Simple Game of Genius Greatest Album of all time. Noel had an opportunity to replace 5 fillers with 5 classic songs but totally butchered it as a result of placing too much importance on "flow" and "story". Nobody will care about flow and story 50 years from now if each and every song on the record is a stone dead classic. It's really too bad that so many of these songs will forever remain unknown and never be heard by anyone who's not a hardcore Oasis fan. I wouldn't say the best album of all time but no doubt the HFB album could have been better...
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Post by warewolf95 on Mar 31, 2013 17:56:34 GMT -5
Nah, I think the album is good as is. In some parallel universe the track list is what you posted and someone is complaining about that too. Like they say, If it ain't broke why fix it. And moreover I like to have better songs as b-sides, gives it a nice Oasis feel. I agree with that mate, having great b-sides is what makes him so god-like in many ways, but i just meant if i could have picked the track listing, from a selfish point of view, then that's the 10 tracks i would have chose. Just saw a topic of conversation in another thread and thought maybe it would be a good idea for a thread? Plus - that also leaves some very good songs to have as B-sides anyway, such is Noels genius, Yea, I actually dont mind having good songs as B-sides cuz its like a little surprise tucked away on the flipside for the true fans that would actually care what the b-side is
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Post by warewolf95 on Mar 31, 2013 17:58:55 GMT -5
This is a great thread. I would keep a lot of the album as it is, but would swap out some for b-sides and demos, as others have already mentioned: 1. Everybody's on the Run 2. If I Had a Gun 3. The Death of You and Me 4. She Must Be One of Us 5. AKA...What a Life! 6. AKA...Broken Arrow 7. Soldier Boys and Jesus Freak 8. Freaky Teeth 9. The Dying of the Light 10. A Simple Game of Genius That's not necessarily the exact tracklisting order, but I do like EOTR as the opener and ASGOG as the closing track. And The Dying of the Light is so beautiful in its simplicity, that I had to include that somewhere. I just hope that if Noel ever releases the studio version of Dying of the Light that it doesn't get too overproduced, because that's one song that doesn't need it. I actually quite like the choir effect of EOTR Im not one for changing up albums but Id go with something like this as well. Plus, for all the hype/myth and anticipation of STC, the HFB is kinda cringeworthy to me. I mean, the DBTT version we have just kills it IMHO. If he HAD to fuckin put it out, I think it'd've been better as a b-side. Keep Dream On - its better, imo, then it gets credit for
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Post by crossfire on Mar 31, 2013 17:59:48 GMT -5
1. Everybody's On The Run 2. Dream On 3. If I Had A Gun 4. The Death of You and Me 5. Record Machine 6. Aka What a Life 7. Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks 8. Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me 9. Simple Game Of Genuis 10.Stop The Clocks
I prefer the demo version of Broken Arrow to the Album version but it wouldn't fit on the album and sorry I absolutely hate Stranded On The Wrong Beach, I seem to be alone in this but I really don't like it, the lyrics are just cringeworthy to me. And I love Stop The Clocks, always have, not Noel's best song but still love it.
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Post by Ash & Debris on Mar 31, 2013 20:06:03 GMT -5
I think SOTWB is a very forgettable filler as well. Same with DO, SBJF and the two 10 year old rehash.
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Post by warewolf95 on Mar 31, 2013 20:32:58 GMT -5
I think SOTWB is a very forgettable filler as well. Same with DO, SBJF and the two 10 year old rehash. I think SOTWB, DO, and SJAJF are fine. Nothing spectacular, but certainly not bad. Definitely album worthy Personally, I like SOTWB as the album closer instead of STC. fits so much better
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Post by dennizz on Apr 1, 2013 2:05:26 GMT -5
Alone On A Rope Everybody's On The Run Dream On She Must Be One Of Us If I Had A Gun What A Life Freaky Teeth Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks Broken Arrow Stranded On The Wrong Beach Stop The Clocks
this would be great imo, fuck with the listener a bit by putting alone on a rope as track one, after that it's full on
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2013 2:40:21 GMT -5
I think that Freaky Teeth,TDOTL (amazing song!!) and Come on outside will be on the next album
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 7:07:47 GMT -5
why would you want to mess with an already great album? i was warned about you oasis/gallagher fans
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 7:18:03 GMT -5
I think Noel was bang on with the tracklist to be honest.
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Post by spaneli on Apr 1, 2013 12:17:53 GMT -5
I like the album as it is. Listened to it the whole way through for the first time in a month and it still sounds great! I like it the way it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 12:54:09 GMT -5
I'd make one change. Freaky Teeth in place of Dream On.
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 1, 2013 18:51:02 GMT -5
EOTR Dream On IIHAG TDOYAM Alone on the Rope --- AKA WAL SBAJF AKA BA Simple Game of Genius Let the Lord Shine a Light... I'd pick you every time (ghost track)
There you go.
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Post by warewolf95 on Apr 1, 2013 19:42:57 GMT -5
I dont know about others, but I pretty much am fine with the tracklisting. Its the overproduction that I cant stand.
When I heard the album the very first time, I honestly didnt like it AT ALL and it took me a long time to come around to the sound of it (all I had to compare it to were Oasis and Beady Eye)
Once you get used to the sound of it its much more enjoyable, but damn, Noel, please try another producer. Nothing really wrong with Sardy but give Nigel Godrich a ring, please. Chaos and Creation In The Backyard, anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 8:19:10 GMT -5
When I heard the album the very first time, I honestly didnt like it AT ALL and it took me a long time to come around to the sound of it ( all I had to compare it to were Oasis and Beady Eye) You should definetly listen to more bands then.
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Post by korky on Apr 2, 2013 17:51:39 GMT -5
Bin off "... Record Machine" for the demo version of "I'd Pick You Every Time" Dump "Stop The Clocks" for "Freaky Teeth"
Simple as
I'd like to have "She Must Be One Of Us" on there but it's too bluesy and doesn't really fit, as well as having "Come On Outside" but I think it's too rock 'n' roll to fit in. If I was to make it 11 songs, "Come On Outside" would be the 11th track after "Freaky Teeth" as I think these two songs would need to next to each other in the line up
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Post by warewolf95 on Apr 2, 2013 17:52:00 GMT -5
When I heard the album the very first time, I honestly didnt like it AT ALL and it took me a long time to come around to the sound of it ( all I had to compare it to were Oasis and Beady Eye) You should definetly listen to more bands then. *facepalm* I meant in the realm of the Oasis-related. Trust me - I DEFINITELY listen to a shitload more than most people here do, lol. I tihnk my 240gb ipod can attest to that, lol!
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 2, 2013 18:18:05 GMT -5
I dont know about others, but I pretty much am fine with the tracklisting. Its the overproduction that I cant stand. When I heard the album the very first time, I honestly didnt like it AT ALL and it took me a long time to come around to the sound of it (all I had to compare it to were Oasis and Beady Eye) Once you get used to the sound of it its much more enjoyable, but damn, Noel, please try another producer. Nothing really wrong with Sardy but give Nigel Godrich a ring, please. Chaos and Creation In The Backyard, anyone? I agree. Although I don't mind the production, I can see where it could have been produced better. To be honest, I wish a lot of Oasis, Beady Eye, and NGHFB's songs had the sound and production of Underneath the Sky. It has a clean, crisp sound to me that I think would have benefited a lot of other songs.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 2, 2013 18:24:25 GMT -5
You should definetly listen to more bands then. *facepalm* I meant in the realm of the Oasis-related. Trust me - I DEFINITELY listen to a shitload more than most people here do, lol. I tihnk my 240gb ipod can attest to that, lol! You have to admit that was a weird way of phrasing it. I gave my head a shake when I first read it too. Even taking it as you meant it though. Do you really only evaluate artists in the the context of their own previous output?
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Post by warewolf95 on Apr 2, 2013 18:39:32 GMT -5
*facepalm* I meant in the realm of the Oasis-related. Trust me - I DEFINITELY listen to a shitload more than most people here do, lol. I tihnk my 240gb ipod can attest to that, lol! You have to admit that was a weird way of phrasing it. I gave my head a shake when I first read it too. Even taking it as you meant it though. Do you really only evaluate artists in the the context of their own previous output? One thing I hate is when people compare artists at all, usually, especially if they are totally different. So having said that, I dont usually evaluate the artist outside of the context of their previous/related output. Like, if someone were to compare an Iron Maiden album to a Black Sabbath album, Id freak because they are so completely different. Maybe its just me, but I dont see how one can evaluate an artist outside the context of their own material if one wishes to have semi-fair results
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