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Post by Binary Sunset on Jan 7, 2016 17:40:20 GMT -5
I could watch Griffey highlights all day. Never gets old.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jan 7, 2016 17:41:46 GMT -5
Kent was an excellent hitter and a dicey fielder at 2B. He is a potential Hall of Famer because of that famous bat, both in the regular season and postseason. Even won a NL MVP in 1999. Good stuff. Hard to leave a guy out of the Hall with these CAREER numbers at 2B, .290 AVG, .356 OBP, .500 SLG and .855 OPS. Tremendous numbers. Chipper Jones won the NL MVP in 1999. Just sayin'. Jeff Kent won in 2000. Can't wait for Chipper to be elected in a few years. Will be only the second #1 overall pick elected(after Griffey)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 17:44:49 GMT -5
Kent was an excellent hitter and a dicey fielder at 2B. He is a potential Hall of Famer because of that famous bat, both in the regular season and postseason. Even won a NL MVP in 1999. Good stuff. Hard to leave a guy out of the Hall with these CAREER numbers at 2B, .290 AVG, .356 OBP, .500 SLG and .855 OPS. Tremendous numbers. Chipper Jones won the NL MVP in 1999. Just sayin'. ....and jeff kent won it in 2000
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jan 7, 2016 17:50:16 GMT -5
Also, Griffey was the subject of some of the best sports commercials. Could also watch these all day...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 7, 2016 17:53:20 GMT -5
Kent was an excellent hitter and a dicey fielder at 2B. He is a potential Hall of Famer because of that famous bat, both in the regular season and postseason. Even won a NL MVP in 1999. Good stuff. Hard to leave a guy out of the Hall with these CAREER numbers at 2B, .290 AVG, .356 OBP, .500 SLG and .855 OPS. Tremendous numbers. Chipper Jones won the NL MVP in 1999. Just sayin'. Typo. NL MVP in 2000!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 18:07:39 GMT -5
For the record At his best. Griffey Not even in my top 5. Never produced in clutch. And was easy to pitch around. Just sayin Griffey's postseason career:.290 AVG, 6 HR, 11 RBI, 12 R, 5 SB, 8 Walks in 18 games played.
Pretty stellar stuff. Also belted 5 homers in a series against your beloved Yankees in 1995. Another #Whiff for you Kalas. Easy to pitch around? He's a career .284 hitter with 630 HR, 1836 RBI, 1662 runs scored, .370 OBP, .538 SLG, .907 OPS. He was fucking amazing in all situations. That's your best ever And yea he was ways to pitch around. Guy did not even average 300 when it counted. Take all your other stats and shove them. Guy was a perennial loser , who hit in clutch in non clutch situations. But keep using stats to fool the kids Guy was a good center fielder Not the best By any stretch
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jan 7, 2016 18:15:24 GMT -5
Griffey's postseason career:.290 AVG, 6 HR, 11 RBI, 12 R, 5 SB, 8 Walks in 18 games played.
Pretty stellar stuff. Also belted 5 homers in a series against your beloved Yankees in 1995. Another #Whiff for you Kalas. Easy to pitch around? He's a career .284 hitter with 630 HR, 1836 RBI, 1662 runs scored, .370 OBP, .538 SLG, .907 OPS. He was fucking amazing in all situations. That's your best ever And yea he was ways to pitch around. Guy did not even average 300 when it counted. Take all your other stats and shove them. Guy was a perennial loser , who hit in clutch in non clutch situations. But keep using stats to fool the kids Guy was a good center fielder Not the best By any stretch I don't think anyone was saying he's the BEST EVER. Maybe most talented. You can't just discount statistics when they don't prove your point. Not sure how the playoffs aren't a real clutch situation. He was exactly the same player in all situations in his prime, which was Hall Of Fame level. That's all you can ask of a player. Even Jeter(my second favorite player of all time) is known to be super clutch, and even he wasn't really any better in the playoffs. He just was the same player and got A LOT more opportunities. Well that and the Flip. Clutch really isn't a thing.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jan 7, 2016 18:19:26 GMT -5
Griffey's postseason career:.290 AVG, 6 HR, 11 RBI, 12 R, 5 SB, 8 Walks in 18 games played.
Pretty stellar stuff. Also belted 5 homers in a series against your beloved Yankees in 1995. Another #Whiff for you Kalas. Easy to pitch around? He's a career .284 hitter with 630 HR, 1836 RBI, 1662 runs scored, .370 OBP, .538 SLG, .907 OPS. He was fucking amazing in all situations. That's your best ever And yea he was ways to pitch around. Guy did not even average 300 when it counted. Take all your other stats and shove them. Guy was a perennial loser , who hit in clutch in non clutch situations. But keep using stats to fool the kids Guy was a good center fielder Not the best By any stretch As for being "a perennial loser" you can't win in baseball if you don't have pitching depth. Neither the Mariners or the Reds at any point had any better than adequate pitching staffs. Not sure how any of that is Griffey's fault. He took FAR less money with the Reds so that they could still sign other players, and non of the signings ever worked out on a pitching level, other than maybe Bronson Arroyo, not exactly what you would call an ace.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 18:20:42 GMT -5
That's your best ever And yea he was ways to pitch around. Guy did not even average 300 when it counted. Take all your other stats and shove them. Guy was a perennial loser , who hit in clutch in non clutch situations. But keep using stats to fool the kids Guy was a good center fielder Not the best By any stretch I don't think anyone was saying he's the BEST EVER. Maybe most talented. You can't just discount statistics when they don't prove your point. Not sure how the playoffs aren't a real clutch situation. He was exactly the same player in all situations in his prime, which was Hall Of Fame level. That's all you can ask of a player. Even Jeter(my second favorite player of all time) is known to be super clutch, and even he wasn't really any better in the playoffs. He just was the same player and got A LOT more opportunities. Well that and the Flip. Clutch really isn't a thing. Was responding to Lennon2217 wrong comment. He uses stats in every debate , This time he is wrong. And he knows it
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Post by spaneli on Jan 7, 2016 22:38:04 GMT -5
For the record At his best. Griffey Not even in my top 5. Never produced in clutch. And was easy to pitch around. Just sayin Griffey's postseason career:.290 AVG, 6 HR, 11 RBI, 12 R, 5 SB, 8 Walks in 18 games played.
Pretty stellar stuff. Also belted 5 homers in a series against your beloved Yankees in 1995. Another #Whiff for you Kalas. Easy to pitch around? He's a career .284 hitter with 630 HR, 1836 RBI, 1662 runs scored, .370 OBP, .538 SLG, .907 OPS. He was fucking amazing in all situations. As references for BA in the postseason: Mickey Mantle .257 Joe DiMaggio .271 Stan Musial .256 Ripken .336, but .167 in the World Series Griffey was a .290 overall postseason hitter. However, his average is brought down some by a .200 average from the end of his career with the White Sox against Tampa Bay (2008). However, in his previous two trips to the playoffs .391 against the Yankees (95), .333 against Cleveland (95), and a .133 against Baltimore (97). In baseball, players are judged by stats, and the stats say that Griffey not only was serviceable in the playoffs, but excelled.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 22:51:18 GMT -5
Griffey's postseason career:.290 AVG, 6 HR, 11 RBI, 12 R, 5 SB, 8 Walks in 18 games played.
Pretty stellar stuff. Also belted 5 homers in a series against your beloved Yankees in 1995. Another #Whiff for you Kalas. Easy to pitch around? He's a career .284 hitter with 630 HR, 1836 RBI, 1662 runs scored, .370 OBP, .538 SLG, .907 OPS. He was fucking amazing in all situations. As references for BA in the postseason: Mickey Mantle .257 Joe DiMaggio .271 Stan Musial .256 Ripken .336, but .167 in the World Series Griffey was a .290 overall postseason hitter. However, his average is brought down some by a .200 average from the end of his career with the White Sox against Tampa Bay (2008). However, in his previous two trips to the playoffs .391 against the Yankees (95), .333 against Cleveland (95), and a .133 against Baltimore (97). In baseball, players are judged by stats, and the stats say that Griffey not only was serviceable in the playoffs, but excelled. Once again spaneli you show me and all what a geek you are , why your posts are like essays and why your posts bore so many ...... .....you say baseball is all stats ? Who is considered the best pitcher post ww2 ? By most sandy Koufax. Yet his stats don't prove that Bob Gibson is considered by most the best. Right handed pitcher ......yet he never won 300 games stats in baseball mean nothing. If they did Oakland would have won more championships Than just the one during there run. The Brooklyn Dodgers would have more than one World Series. Statistaclilly they were the best team in baseball. But they rarely won Why your a putz
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 23:02:06 GMT -5
that nolan ryan guy was pretty good (5,714 k's, 7 career no-hitter's).
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 7, 2016 23:02:37 GMT -5
As references for BA in the postseason: Mickey Mantle .257 Joe DiMaggio .271 Stan Musial .256 Ripken .336, but .167 in the World Series Griffey was a .290 overall postseason hitter. However, his average is brought down some by a .200 average from the end of his career with the White Sox against Tampa Bay (2008). However, in his previous two trips to the playoffs .391 against the Yankees (95), .333 against Cleveland (95), and a .133 against Baltimore (97). In baseball, players are judged by stats, and the stats say that Griffey not only was serviceable in the playoffs, but excelled. Once again spaneli you show me and all what a geek you are , why your posts are like essays and why your posts bore so many ...... .....you say baseball is all stats ? Who is considered the best pitcher post ww2 ? By most sandy Koufax. Yet his stats don't prove that Bob Gibson is considered by most the best. Right handed pitcher ......yet he never won 300 games stats in baseball mean nothing. If they did Oakland would have won more championships Than just the one during there run. The Brooklyn Dodgers would have more than one World Series. Statistaclilly they were the best team in baseball. But they rarely won Why your a putz I really don't get you at all. You post opinions as facts, then when someone actually corrects you using REAL stats you lash out and discredit it. Baseball is a game of numbers. Not hard to size up a player. I even mentioned Griffey's slash line. Do you know how hard it is to average .290/.370/.530/.900 over 18+ seasons? Extremely difficult. The ones that do offensively are in Cooperstown. Another Kalas #Whiff. You are the Dave Kingman of the forum lately.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 7, 2016 23:06:43 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was saying he's the BEST EVER. Maybe most talented. You can't just discount statistics when they don't prove your point. Not sure how the playoffs aren't a real clutch situation. He was exactly the same player in all situations in his prime, which was Hall Of Fame level. That's all you can ask of a player. Even Jeter(my second favorite player of all time) is known to be super clutch, and even he wasn't really any better in the playoffs. He just was the same player and got A LOT more opportunities. Well that and the Flip. Clutch really isn't a thing. Was responding to Lennon2217 wrong comment. He uses stats in every debate , This time he is wrong. And he knows it Geez.............you labeled Griffey as a non clutch player. I simply corrected you using numbers that prove he was clutch, very clutch and the same at all levels of the game. The guy produced day in and day out at a hall of fame level. Don't get your panties in a bunch because you assumed wrongly about a players career makeup. Take your lumps like a man.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 8, 2016 3:33:52 GMT -5
Jeff Kent might not be a hall of famer but he's the best second baseman to appear on Survivor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 7:35:33 GMT -5
Griffey is not a clutch player in my book. You know who was clutch. Fred Lynn. If he never got injured I think he may have went down as the center fielder of the modern era @ lennon2217. Thoughts ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 7:55:16 GMT -5
^ i have this card. in the master bedroom... under the bed.... in a god damn fuckin' floorsafe. just sayin'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 8:05:50 GMT -5
^ i have this card. in the master bedroom... under the bed.... in a god damn fuckin' floorsafe. just sayin'. How sad is that. What do you think it's worth 100 bucks. ?? By the time you are old what will it be worth 150 ?? You know what I have stashed ? A Boston Red Sox autographed baseball. With George Ruth signature. It's been authenticated My family originally came from Boston. I don't need baseball cards worth 100 bucks at best. Or post pics of a card found everywhere. But I got that ball. Fact thanks JUST SAYIN
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 8:19:11 GMT -5
^ i have this card. in the master bedroom... under the bed.... in a god damn fuckin' floorsafe. just sayin'. How sad is that. What do you think it's worth 100 bucks. ?? By the time you are old what will it be worth 150 ?? You know what I have stashed ? A Boston Red Sox autographed baseball. With George Ruth signature. It's been authenticated My family originally came from Boston. I don't need baseball cards worth 100 bucks at best. Or post pics of a card found everywhere. But I got that ball. Fact thanks JUST SAYIN asswipe
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 8:27:06 GMT -5
How sad is that. What do you think it's worth 100 bucks. ?? By the time you are old what will it be worth 150 ?? You know what I have stashed ? A Boston Red Sox autographed baseball. With George Ruth signature. It's been authenticated My family originally came from Boston. I don't need baseball cards worth 100 bucks at best. Or post pics of a card found everywhere. But I got that ball. Fact thanks JUST SAYIN asswipeN Actually. Just stating a fact.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 8, 2016 9:09:36 GMT -5
I have a Honus Wagner rookie card but I'm not selling it because I'm filthy rich.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 9:28:12 GMT -5
How sad is that. What do you think it's worth 100 bucks. ?? By the time you are old what will it be worth 150 ?? You know what I have stashed ? A Boston Red Sox autographed baseball. With George Ruth signature. It's been authenticated My family originally came from Boston. I don't need baseball cards worth 100 bucks at best. Or post pics of a card found everywhere. But I got that ball. Fact thanks JUST SAYIN asswipe That card is worth about $20 currently. At one time it was worth about $150, but Upper Deck crapped on themselves by producing over a million of them! I do actually collect sports cards and have since my youth. There is very little from the late 80's and 90's that is worth much because of over production. As you move into the 2000's you'll find sets that are low numbered (50 or less in many cases), autographs, memorabilia, and the like which increases the value of modern cards. For example, a Tom Brady Rookie Autograph from Playoff Contenders will fetch a cool $1,000 easily if it's in a decent condition. If graded for quality by a reputable company you could get as much as $15,000.
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Post by spaneli on Jan 8, 2016 9:31:22 GMT -5
As references for BA in the postseason: Mickey Mantle .257 Joe DiMaggio .271 Stan Musial .256 Ripken .336, but .167 in the World Series Griffey was a .290 overall postseason hitter. However, his average is brought down some by a .200 average from the end of his career with the White Sox against Tampa Bay (2008). However, in his previous two trips to the playoffs .391 against the Yankees (95), .333 against Cleveland (95), and a .133 against Baltimore (97). In baseball, players are judged by stats, and the stats say that Griffey not only was serviceable in the playoffs, but excelled. Once again spaneli you show me and all what a geek you are , why your posts are like essays and why your posts bore so many ...... .....you say baseball is all stats ? Who is considered the best pitcher post ww2 ?   By most sandy Koufax.    Yet his stats don't prove that  Bob Gibson is considered by most the best. Right handed pitcher ......yet he never won 300 games stats in baseball mean nothing.   If they did Oakland would have won more championships Than  just the one during there run.   The Brooklyn Dodgers would have more than one World Series.  Statistaclilly they were the best team in baseball.  But they rarely won   Why your a putz Actually, stats do prove that he was one of the most dominating pitchers of the era, including ERA, walk ratio, strike out ratio, FIP, and his win total through that seven year stretch has not been equalled since. The only Stat that doesn't say it is his overall win total. But again stats don't prove everything. By your logic, statistically the Mariners and Griffey were the best team and best player in baseball, but they rarely won. Unless you want to contradict yourself again. Why I'm probably not the only putz.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 8, 2016 10:04:23 GMT -5
Oh look, Kalas quit the forum again. Shocking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 10:27:30 GMT -5
Oh look, Kalas quit the forum again. Shocking. So.... will anyone from next years new crop of player get in the hall... Manny, Vlad, Ivan, or Posada?
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