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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 18, 2013 11:40:58 GMT -5
Dubai's organisers wanted him to play an Oasis setlist. the guy just dont give a fuck. he's come up with Shout It Out Loud and LDSMD. Olympics wanted him to mime Wonderwall. biggest thing ever... and he just said no. who's been told what to do..and did it? see, I don't wanna start a war here
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Post by dean87bwfc on Mar 18, 2013 11:45:43 GMT -5
Wasn't it just the music that would've been pre-recorded at The Olympics?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2013 11:46:38 GMT -5
Fair play to him if he does he wants and not what others tell him, though I sometimes think someone needs to be firm with him and tell him that he can be wrong e.g. songs being left off albums for worse songs, dull and repetitive live set lists. No one ever will, but imagine if Owen Morris had stopped shovelling cocaine up his nose and done the production for Be Here Now instead of letting a drugged-up Noel take the wheel, imagine if Let's All Make Believe had been put on SOTSOG etc...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2013 11:49:36 GMT -5
I wonder if Noel regrets not doing the Olympics now, it was a once in a lifetime opportunity for him, I'm surprised he didn't do it tbh
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 18, 2013 11:53:17 GMT -5
What I don't get about the Olympics noel didn't do it because he didnt want to mime but beady eye sang live?
Something doesn't add up there? :/
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 18, 2013 11:53:32 GMT -5
well, with all his 'wrong/bad choices/decisions', he's still got a mega fanbase all around the world and he's still selling a shitload of albums. so while diehard fans (on this forum anyway) think he's been wrong..well.. we could sometimes be wrong about him being wrong too.. !!
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 18, 2013 11:56:01 GMT -5
What I don't get about the Olympics noel didn't do it because he didnt want to mime but beady eye sang live? Something doesn't add up there? :/ music was pre-recorded. simple as that. imagine being alone on stage with an acoustic.. that you don't even play. might as well stand up with spread arms and act like God.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 18, 2013 11:56:47 GMT -5
Noel didn't do it,Beady Eye mimed but the vocal was live
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Post by Bruno on Mar 18, 2013 11:58:30 GMT -5
I agree Noel certainly does what he wants to do and I respect him for that but to be honest I think the Dubai gig was more a thing of false advertising on the part of the organizers than them wanting him to play an Oasis setlist.
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Post by yearzero on Mar 18, 2013 12:04:07 GMT -5
Yeah, the promoters in Dubai wanted to advertise it as an Oasis gig (not surprising I guess, since they knew that would draw crowds). Noel's at a stage in his career and life when he can do whatever the hell he wants, and he doesn't care what anyone else thinks--part of why I like him. Having said that: Fair play to him if he does he wants and not what others tell him, though I sometimes think someone needs to be firm with him and tell him that he can be wrong e.g. songs being left off albums for worse songs, dull and repetitive live set lists. No one ever will, but imagine if Owen Morris had stopped shovelling cocaine up his nose and done the production for Be Here Now instead of letting a drugged-up Noel take the wheel, imagine if Let's All Make Believe had been put on SOTSOG etc... Agreed. Noel needs people who aren't afraid to push him a little bit and give differing opinions. I think he's a reasonable, if stubborn, man--so if the right people give their opinions, it can be a very good thing for him
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2013 12:06:21 GMT -5
well, with all his 'wrong/bad choices/decisions', he's still got a mega fanbase all around the world and he's still selling a shitload of albums. so while diehard fans (on this forum anyway) think he's been wrong..well.. we could sometimes be wrong about him being wrong too.. !! He's still selling albums because his music is good and he plays classics like DLBIA at his live shows, that's not to say that we aren't wrong for saying that if he opened his gigs with something other than It's Good To Be Free, his live shows would be better because they probably would. He could play (Get Off) Your High Horse Lady and people would still go in the hope that he might play DLBIA or wonderwall etc, doesn't mean they agree with him playing High Horse Lady. In my opinion, HFB would have been better if Alone On A Rope was included, it's still a good album without it though so I bought it.
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 18, 2013 12:11:39 GMT -5
agree with Good To Be Free being a bad choice for opener Everybody's On The Run was written for this. it was just meant to be...but the old grumpy man decided not..!
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Post by J-200 on Mar 18, 2013 12:12:20 GMT -5
1. On not performing at the Olympics… I thought I was going to be in it. Of course, they asked me to sing Wonderwall. I went quite a far way down the road with it. And leading up to the beginning of the dress rehearsals. They kind of said, “You know, nobody’s playing live”. And I said, “Why?” and they said, “It’s kind of a big gig”. They sang live, they didn’t play live. They wanted me to do acoustic, so I would have to sing live but mime (the playing). And then someone said, “We’d like to do a new string arrangement for it” and I’m like, “Yeah, okay, alright – you know what, I’m going to pass on this” because I don’t like miming and singing live. And I thought, this is going to be too much bunny trouble, so I passed. And then they called up and said, “We’re going to ask Liam” and I said “great – just don’t bunny ask Keane or anybody like that”. I would have been up for doing it, had they bunny let me do it live. But there you go. It’s no big deal. I thought the whole thing was pretty good. Beady Eye? Yeah, they did it justice. They recorded it bunny note for note. I thought it was a difficult thing to sing live while the band is miming. It’s difficult. But I thought it went down pretty well. What can I say?
(*Well, a little bit was cut. For fear of offending people who get offended by expletives, we’ve replaced the expletives with the word “bunny”.)
2. "And then they wanted me to do it acoustically and then they wanted me to mime... and I'm all for miming in TV shows - I'm all for that - but if you're in a stadium with 80,000 people and you're pretending? I can play live! One of the organisers... I said [to him] 'why do you want me to mime?' and he said 'it's a big gig'. Really?! I do this shit for a living!'"
"In the end, I was just like... you know what I'd rather watch it on the telly."
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Post by RocketMan on Mar 18, 2013 12:46:23 GMT -5
he does whatever he wants no matter what anybody's thinking. and obviously thats the reason why i prefer noel over every other artist of my generation. keep it real noel. #yolo #swag
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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 18, 2013 12:46:46 GMT -5
He did still play Wonderwall, Supersonic, Don't look back in anger and Half the world away etc..
So it's not like he just played obscure songs.
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Post by live4everfessi on Mar 18, 2013 12:50:42 GMT -5
HE TOURED WITH SNOW PATROL.
/endthread
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 18, 2013 12:58:58 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher is one of gemini's, just like me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2013 13:03:58 GMT -5
HE TOURED WITH SNOW PATROL. /endthread That's a fair point, I think that success is a big deal to Noel no doubt but I still think all these decisions are his choice, not the choices of others, like it was probably Chris Martin's choice to do that duet with Rihanna. Not saying I agree with it at all but I definitely don't think Noel bows to the words of a record company.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 18, 2013 13:20:33 GMT -5
What I don't get about the Olympics noel didn't do it because he didnt want to mime but beady eye sang live? Something doesn't add up there? :/ I think the difference is that Noel is a guitar player and had been asked to get up and do it acoustically while miming that guitar. Noel doesn't like doing that either. Does it when he has to but hates it. BDI had to mime everything but the vocals. For the Liam the gig was nothing different because he only sings live so his performance was live from his perspective and we all know that he is the deciding vote in BDI and it didn't matter if the rest of the guys were miming. For Noel half his performance would have been mimed though and he would have just been up there alone with a guitar that wasn't plugged in futilely strumming it. I also think the timing of Noel slower heartfelt version probably would have been a bit less impactful if he weren't able to control his tempo at all. I think Noel does what he wants. The Snow Patrol argument is moot. He had never have anything bad to say about them...and when he doesn't like someone he's no shrinking violet. I don't think he did that in spite of himself. Personally I hate that people are so selfishly childish about that tour though. I know I am not the only person that the only reason that Noel came to my city is because of that tour. And I guarantee that most of the snobs about it live in big music cities that Noel went to on his own. Him not doing things because his FANBASE have an opinion would have been the sell out thing to do.
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Post by yearzero on Mar 18, 2013 13:22:55 GMT -5
HE TOURED WITH SNOW PATROL. /endthread That's a fair point, I think that success is a big deal to Noel no doubt but I still think all these decisions are his choice, not the choices of others, like it was probably Chris Martin's choice to do that duet with Rihanna. Not saying I agree with it at all but I definitely don't think Noel bows to the words of a record company. Exactly. If Noel thought Snow Patrol was genuine shite, I don't think he would have stood for touring with them for months on end. Noel stands by his own decisions. As for success, he's had all the success he could ever want or need with Oasis. Whatever he gets with HFB is probably just icing on the cake. He likes what he's doing and that's the main thing.
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Post by yearzero on Mar 18, 2013 13:25:40 GMT -5
What I don't get about the Olympics noel didn't do it because he didnt want to mime but beady eye sang live? Something doesn't add up there? :/ I think the difference is that Noel is a guitar player and had been asked to get up and do it acoustically while miming that guitar. Noel doesn't like doing that either. Does it when he has to but hates it. BDI had to mime everything but the vocals. For the Liam the gig was nothing different because he only sings live so his performance was live from his perspective and we all know that he is the deciding vote in BDI and it didn't matter if the rest of the guys were miming. For Noel half his performance would have been mimed though and he would have just been up there alone with a guitar that wasn't plugged in futilely strumming it. I also think the timing of Noel slower heartfelt version probably would have been a bit less impactful if he weren't able to control his tempo at all. That makes sense. I've seen musicians sing live but have to mime playing guitar, and it's completely awkward.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 18, 2013 13:36:57 GMT -5
I think the difference is that Noel is a guitar player and had been asked to get up and do it acoustically while miming that guitar. Noel doesn't like doing that either. Does it when he has to but hates it. BDI had to mime everything but the vocals. For the Liam the gig was nothing different because he only sings live so his performance was live from his perspective and we all know that he is the deciding vote in BDI and it didn't matter if the rest of the guys were miming. For Noel half his performance would have been mimed though and he would have just been up there alone with a guitar that wasn't plugged in futilely strumming it. I also think the timing of Noel slower heartfelt version probably would have been a bit less impactful if he weren't able to control his tempo at all. That makes sense. I've seen musicians sing live but have to mime playing guitar, and it's completely awkward. Remember Noel's first HFB performance in France? That was mimed and Noel looked so uncomfortable. Painful.
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Post by yearzero on Mar 18, 2013 13:42:50 GMT -5
That makes sense. I've seen musicians sing live but have to mime playing guitar, and it's completely awkward. Remember Noel's first HFB performance in France? That was mimed and Noel looked so uncomfortable. Painful. Oh yes. Hopefully that will never happen again.
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Post by mouth on Mar 20, 2013 12:19:34 GMT -5
haha, you people are so fucking naive if you really believe noel nowadays is different than any other act. he is run by his management as everyboday else in the music biz is. he went on tour with fuckin snow patrol and played as an opener for FUCKING rhcp!!! he's in it for the money, his management is good enough to arrange shit that earns him good money. that's it, get over it. noel gallagher 2013 is not the same as noel gallagher 1995.
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 20, 2013 14:57:32 GMT -5
oh, a MOUTH that welcomes any cock he's offered, probably.
he has a manger because he doesnt want to be dealing with all of this bullshit. so, his manager tells him about some gig. he says yes or no. he gets the final word.
and he was more in it for the money in 1995 than he is now. you appear to be the naive one, MOUTH.
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