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Post by webm@ster on Feb 25, 2013 11:31:14 GMT -5
As by Planet Rock Poll, did they get it right? Full article here Top 10 ListTop 10: 1/ Led Zeppelin 2/ Queen 3/ Black Sabbath 4/ Pink Floyd 5/ Deep Purple 6/ Jimi Hendrix 7/ The Rolling Stones 8/ The Who 9/ AC/DC 10/ David Bowie
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 11:33:57 GMT -5
David Bowie and Jimi Hendrix aren't bands but never mind that, where is the most influential band of all time The Beatles?.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 12:06:45 GMT -5
The whole list weird except zep sabbath stones ...there influence is obvious ......the Beatles are excluded probably because nobody has that partnership so maybe they are above the list ,,my guess anyway ...but the oversight in my opinion is how can the first supergroup not be acknowledged Cream!!!! They were the inspiration for supergroups to be formed,,they are the ultimate power trio that spawned rush,the police ,the jam and the others. that is a major major oversight
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Post by Bruno on Feb 25, 2013 12:13:37 GMT -5
Neil Young? Bob Dylan? Elvis?
How anyone can not have The Beatles at 1st place on this kind of list escapes me!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 12:20:52 GMT -5
Neil Young? Bob Dylan? Elvis? How anyone can not have The Beatles at 1st place on this kind of list escapes me! Like I said I think the Beatles are held in a different regard sorta in rarified air and especially in America if this is a American magazine many many more bands aspire and are influenced by zep from power ballads to straight rock to metal zep influenced all genres of rock even more so than the Beatles not songwriting mind you but playing zep influence can be heard all over American radio than the Beatles just about every band you hear will say the love the Beatles but wanted to sound like zep...look at all the rock bands out there since them they influenced so many genres of rock that as pure influence ther number 1 easy
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Post by Bruno on Feb 25, 2013 12:26:18 GMT -5
Neil Young? Bob Dylan? Elvis? How anyone can not have The Beatles at 1st place on this kind of list escapes me! Like I said I think the Beatles are held in a different regard sorta in rarified air and especially in America if this is a American magazine many many more bands aspire and are influenced by zep from power ballads to straight rock to metal zep influenced all genres of rock even more so than the Beatles not songwriting mind you but playing zep influence can be heard all over American radio than the Beatles just about every band you hear will say the love the Beatles but wanted to sound like zep...look at all the rock bands out there since them they influenced so many genres of rock that as pure influence ther number 1 easy The list says influential, before the Beatles there was no 'Rock' music as we know it today there was 'rock n roll'. So even if Americans aspire to be like Zepp, that doesn't change the fact that the Beatles transcended genres and even created 'Rock' IMO. So if we go by influence on music, every single rock band in the world knowingly or unknowingly is influenced by The Beatles.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 12:32:40 GMT -5
Like I said I think the Beatles are held in a different regard sorta in rarified air and especially in America if this is a American magazine many many more bands aspire and are influenced by zep from power ballads to straight rock to metal zep influenced all genres of rock even more so than the Beatles not songwriting mind you but playing zep influence can be heard all over American radio than the Beatles just about every band you hear will say the love the Beatles but wanted to sound like zep...look at all the rock bands out there since them they influenced so many genres of rock that as pure influence ther number 1 easy The list says influential, before the Beatles there was no 'Rock' music as we know it today there was 'rock n roll'. So even if Americans aspire to be like Zepp, that doesn't change the fact that the Beatles transcended genres and even created 'Rock' IMO. So if we go by influence on music, every single rock band in the world knowingly or unknowingly is influenced by The Beatles. Ther was no rock as we know it chuck berry little Richard? Jerry lee Lewis? WS rock music long before the Beatles and holds up today ...and your entitled to your opinion no doubt but most musicians will say zep is the band they were influenced by they all love the Beatles but play like zep if you sound more like a band the influence then goes to them it doesent make tnem better or worse just more influential
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 12:34:21 GMT -5
The list says influential, before the Beatles there was no 'Rock' music as we know it today there was 'rock n roll'. So even if Americans aspire to be like Zepp, that doesn't change the fact that the Beatles transcended genres and even created 'Rock' IMO. So if we go by influence on music, every single rock band in the world knowingly or unknowingly is influenced by The Beatles. Ther was no rock as we know it chuck berry little Richard? Jerry lee Lewis? WS rock music long before the Beatles and holds up today ...and your entitled to your opinion no doubt but most musicians will say zep is the band they were influenced by they all love the Beatles but play like zep if you sound more like a band the influence then goes to them it doesent make tnem better or worse just more influential And to clarify yes there was rock music as we know it today as mentioned by the aforementioned artists who the Beatles aspired to be as well as Elvis
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Post by Bruno on Feb 25, 2013 12:43:45 GMT -5
Ther was no rock as we know it chuck berry little Richard? Jerry lee Lewis? WS rock music long before the Beatles and holds up today ...and your entitled to your opinion no doubt but most musicians will say zep is the band they were influenced by they all love the Beatles but play like zep if you sound more like a band the influence then goes to them it doesent make tnem better or worse just more influential I don't consider any of them as rock music. That's still rock n roll/blues. And even if they were rock, we're talking about the no.1 spot for the most influential band of all time, so I don't think they really figure even though they were very influential. On the Zepp point, the fact remains is that before the Beatles came along, people were doing songs like what Elvis and Chuck Berry were doing aka Rock n Roll/Blues. After the Beatles came on the scene people became interested in rock and so rock bands started to emerge not rock n roll bands. The Beatles were the first ones to tinker with distortion, a technique Zepp use a lot if I'm not wrong. They also were the pioneers, now I'm not saying the first but the pioneers in moving away from love songs and onto darker themes, and that in it's essence is rock music. So they might not have been the first in some cases but they were the ones that got people thinking about things and they changed the type of music people listened to and that to me is their influence. But that's just my opinion mate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 12:53:25 GMT -5
And it's a good one Bruno ,,your entitled and I can't argue with that ,,,I will just leave it as this if you took a poll and there have been many in rock magazines hands down zep is always number one amongst musicians ,,as well as fans. That doesent take anything away from the Beatles at all they were a unique band that had two songwriters that nobody can touch . And are regarded as best ever but it's like a game say hockey Wayne Gretzky is considered the best ever hands down. But the player that was more influential was bobby Orr ....nobody except Mario Lemieux p,ayed like Gretzky he was too good to be a influence. But bobby Orr is the reason hockey is played so wide open by defenseman before bobby Orr no defenseman carried the puck past the red line they dumped it in Orr went end to end and changed the game many defenseman after him played like Orr he was there influence ,,but Gretzky nobody plays like he's there idol. That's the difference ,,,Orr had influence on how a game was played ...zep has influence over how rock was played this was a rock influence remember the Beatles never p,ayed heavy metal or sang a tune like stairway the first real power pop that influenced a whole new way to play rock ..that's why I say zep in rock mind you but as I say your entitled mate
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Feb 25, 2013 14:09:02 GMT -5
Polls like this are always stupid. I wouldn't be surprised if Planet Rock excluded The Beatles.
Anyway, the title is "top most influential bands" of all time so not just rock bands. I don't need a poll to tell me what I already know, The Beatles were the most influential band of all time and still are.
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Post by Bellboy on Feb 25, 2013 14:39:01 GMT -5
Planet Rock don't play the Beatles & their listeners don't really call for it. It's not an accurate poll based on that but I do agree with most of it otherwise!
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Post by 2besomeone on Feb 25, 2013 17:21:36 GMT -5
Ridiculous that the Beatles are not on the list. Beatles changed everything in music. Sure a lot of people will say the Beatles didnt invent anything and sure they didn't invent psychedelic pop/rock (probably the byrds), them playing it made it massive at the time, for example.
If its artists then I can not understand why Bob Dylan isn't on there, I mean his music is about as influential as it gets, along with the Beatles.
Certainly think the Clash or the Sex Pistols deserve a mention as they were pretty influential.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 17:28:15 GMT -5
Still can't figure out how no cream the most influential power trio ever.... clash or pistols one should be there And as for the post above I think by Geordie it is a most influential band poll your right but all the bands and solo artists are rock certainly it was implied rock influences or half of those artists would not be in it ...chuck berry , tommy Dorsey ( sinatras bandleader) Benny goodman the king of swing certainly would be more influential to music not ac/ dc. The rock is implied by the list Imo but I agree with you it's stupid and the Beatles are tops ,,I think zep has more musical influence amongst rock acts but who really gives a fuck your right they are stupid
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Post by Cast on Feb 25, 2013 21:42:33 GMT -5
No Beatles or Velvet Underground? damn...
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 25, 2013 22:15:51 GMT -5
No Beatles, no credibility.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Feb 25, 2013 22:38:03 GMT -5
Planet Rock HATES The Beatles. So all 'this list sucks because The Beatles aren't on it' should know that they don't think like the 80% of people on the planet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 23:11:09 GMT -5
Planet Rock HATES The Beatles. So all 'this list sucks because The Beatles aren't on it' should know that they don't think like the 80% of people on the planet. Totally agree ......but I really must be old not one person who posted here who is upset bout the Beatles not being on the list or knocking the mag Does not find equally disturbing that cream was omitted jack bruce , ginger baker , Eric Clapton. , Had a two year run that influenced not only music but actually ushered in the term Supergroup!!!! There sound was so unique and powerful it's like was not seen before and was the main reason Hendrix wanted so much to form a power trip himself that is the definition of I N F L U E N C E. after seeing them in London it inspired Hendrix While I know that many on here worship the Beatles and all they did to just keep posting about the Beatle omission and not even give a nod to the omission of cream is a bit short sighted in my humble opinion . Case closed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 23:25:45 GMT -5
And anyone who needs reminding as much as I love zep bonzo s inspiration to create moby dick. Was directly taken from ginger bakers drum solo toad prior to that it was almost unheard of for a drum solo to be featured as the meat of the song even bonzo in interviews said how bakers toad directly inspired him to create moby dick that my friends is as high of praise or influence as you can get
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Post by Bruno on Feb 25, 2013 23:30:51 GMT -5
The list is complete rubbish!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 23:36:35 GMT -5
The list is complete rubbish! Except for zep couldn't agree more Bruno your right but I still find it short sighted that only the Beatles are essentially being pointed out I realize that there influence on oasisis a factor being its a oasis forum but reading every post it's Beatles Beatles Beatles and not one person some even mentioned other bands can come up with Cream a band that influenced not only music but also coined the vernacular ( supergroup) a term nobody ever heard of before ...and I find that hard to believe that a group of people so knowledgable which you and they are can realize the Beatle omission but not cream and nobody can say they were too young if you know the Beatles you have to know cream
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Post by Bruno on Feb 25, 2013 23:40:56 GMT -5
Yeah agreed Cream should be on that list.
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 26, 2013 0:02:10 GMT -5
I always thought the song "achilles last stand" by led zep was the cornerstone for iron maiden, for example.
About the beatles... I think their influence wasn't as big as how big they were. There are stronger lines of influence in the hard rock field... Beatles were unique and their songwriting style was perhaps more isolated. The guys did something really weird. The 70s was dominated by a rock/blues, hard rock, progressive rock thing, right? I don't see much of the beatles there. Neither with 80s post punk and synth, glam, etc.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 26, 2013 0:02:13 GMT -5
Question: Who listens to Planet Rock Radio? Better question: Who even still listens to the radio? #ItsEvolutionBaby
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 0:02:41 GMT -5
Thank you sheesh Bruno sheesh that was hard ,lol. Here is my list of most influential bands with a explanation as to why INFLUENCE is the reason they are on it no order so no debating order please but for fucks sake ill put Beatles at top Beatles- they were a reason most bands wanted to play rock ,,not all mind you page beck and Clapton all wanted to play rock by listening to American early blues and American 50s rock Led zep- quite simply is the reason you hear rock on American radio every time you hear a power ballad ,metal, straight rock , or blues rock zep did first did it best Rolling Stones- no need to explain The clash/sex pistols - putting them together punk was born in the uk though the clash of course evolved into much more than punk Ramones - American punk was born when they came along Dylan- if there is no Dylan in rock there is no Springsteen or any other solo artist who writes not only music but tells stories Pink Floyd- they didn't invent the concept album but they perfected it and are the reason other bands try to make them. The who - know band ever really sounded like the who to me but they really inspired Paul weller along with the Beatles so they go in for the jam alone Nirvana- not a huge nirvana fan and there were bands before them in Seattle but much like zep after they broke everybody in America wanted to start a garage band drink coffee mope around depressed and move to Seattle that my friends is INFLUENCE I say much like zep because like zep bands after them wanted to be them I know that's 9 influential genres but i put clash and pistols together so that's ten bands Notice I tried to put different types of rock styles so I omitted bands like purple sabbath and such because zep already played that style in my hard category jmo hope some approve if not what the fuck its my opinion
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