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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 7:47:20 GMT -5
Liam's got the money to carry on whether he succeeds or not, he's playing in a band with his mates an he looks like he's enjoying it. I don't think he's as bothered in success as Noel is he's been popular and he had his time but has said he was never bothered about being big. BDI will always have a following from some loyal oasis fans
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Post by spaneli on Aug 10, 2012 8:16:26 GMT -5
As far as Beady Eye go, songwriters do improve for albums and do get worse. No matter how good or legendary you are. There is always a chance a great songwriter will put out some shit or an average one will produce the work of their lives. Been happening since the beginning. I take very little for certain in regard to anyone. True, but you're asking 3 songwriters to all greatly improve at the same time. I could see one improving, but all 3 improving at the same time seems like a bit of a stretch. Nothing is certain, that's for sure. But as a songwriter you build up a track record and so far for the last 10 years only Liam has really shown the ability to write a really good song every once in a while. It's far easier to write when you know that you have 5-6 good songs walking through the door, with possibly 3-4 singles among them and all you have to do is give 1-2 album tracks. It's far more difficult to write when you know you have to have to do better, when you know that you may have to write not just good songs, but possibly 1-2 singles. That's a lot of pressure for songwriters to put on themselves. It's just not as easy for all of them to improve at the same time. Which is what they need. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Aug 10, 2012 8:22:52 GMT -5
if anything the next album should be better than DGSS.
less rushed, more focused.
God bless.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 10, 2012 8:28:11 GMT -5
if anything the next album should be better than DGSS.
less rushed, more focused. God bless. This |
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Post by thomas09 on Aug 10, 2012 8:52:01 GMT -5
However, having said that, Andy and Gem are such "yes" men that they'll probably just take it. They know what side their bread is buttered on. So maybe you're right. Come off it..  There's been loads of footage of them together outside of beady eye. I seriously doubt they're "yes men". They seem to get on pretty well. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 9:57:00 GMT -5
However, having said that, Andy and Gem are such "yes" men that they'll probably just take it. They know what side their bread is buttered on. So maybe you're right. Andy maybe but gem is like one of Liam's best mates, they've always seemed to get on well and gem looks like a bit of a geezer, he's mates with a lot of musicians, eg Paul weller, BOTH the gallagher's. I think gem wife gets on well with Liam's wife as well so they must get on quite well |
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Post by Rifles on Aug 10, 2012 10:04:16 GMT -5
I don't think they're "yes men" in the classical sense, but I do think they take a backseat to Liam when it comes to just about everything. Liam came up with the band name, the album name and was the main reason they went into the studio so fast. I definitely see them going along for the ride more than I see either of them stepping up and doing any sort of leading - Liam's just too big a personality and, let's face it, he's the main attraction.
Without Noel to sort of lean on, Liam should hopefully adapt and it seems he is by taking the 2nd album a little slower. With a little less length and a little more focus, they could put out a pretty good album. "World Not Set in Stone" is not the direction they need to go though. I hope that's a b-side in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 10:42:07 GMT -5
"World Not Set in Stone" is not the direction they need to go though. I hope that's a b-side in the end.  |
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Post by Rolo on Aug 10, 2012 12:15:42 GMT -5
I love World's Not Set In Stone, I think the studio version could be brilliant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 12:33:20 GMT -5
I love World's Not Set In Stone, I think the studio version could be brilliant. Same, I'd like to hear more of the guitar at the end and not like the outro on kill for a dream that got covered up by lillywhites retro production. I'd like a third verse as well if Liam can think of one...  |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 11, 2012 2:19:41 GMT -5
Agree with all of that Noel is destined for Paul weller like solo success while beady eye will split after 2 or 3 albums This is by far the most optimistic post in this section. I find it highly unlikely Noel will ever get anywhere near the quality and variety of Weller. Nothing in his first release has suggested so and it appears he's about to shelve the project where he took some chances. Very un-weller like. And yeah we get it, you don't think much of anyone. Noel solo carree is oasis minus LIam. There' absolutely no difference, no ground breaking noel sound in hfb. Its just limited since it hasn't got any rockers. Bdi has the possibily to make a larger panel of songs, mid tempo and rockers. World not set in stone is good. They re taking their time. I say why not wait for it and wish them luck. In the end, it won't be as ggod as a noel written song, but it can be good music anyway. Truth is neither bdi or hfb will ever equal any good oasis album, one becaue of the songwritting, the other because of the lack of voice and variety. They just should reform oasis for good, with noel new inspiration and liam' s good voice these days itcould be great. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 5:37:18 GMT -5
Andy maybe but gem is like one of Liam's best mates, they've always seemed to get on well and gem looks like a bit of a geezer, he's mates with a lot of musicians, eg Paul weller, BOTH the gallagher's. I think gem wife gets on well with Liam's wife as well so they must get on quite well You think Gem doesn't just go along with everything Liam decides? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 6:15:28 GMT -5
Andy maybe but gem is like one of Liam's best mates, they've always seemed to get on well and gem looks like a bit of a geezer, he's mates with a lot of musicians, eg Paul weller, BOTH the gallagher's. I think gem wife gets on well with Liam's wife as well so they must get on quite well You think Gem doesn't just go along with everything Liam decides? No but then who knows I've never actually been in the studio before with them so I can't say for sure. I know gem does a lot of the mixing himself and Liam has said the band does occasionally have arguments over decisions. I don't think Liam is as much as a control freak as people make out, that's more noel and Liam always resisted Noel having authority and controlling everything so I don't think he'd do the same thing with BDI |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Aug 11, 2012 6:22:22 GMT -5
Andy and Gem know their roles.
God bless.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 11, 2012 6:26:54 GMT -5
Andy maybe but gem is like one of Liam's best mates, they've always seemed to get on well and gem looks like a bit of a geezer, he's mates with a lot of musicians, eg Paul weller, BOTH the gallagher's. I think gem wife gets on well with Liam's wife as well so they must get on quite well You think Gem doesn't just go along with everything Liam decides? Its weird that people use this 'yes' men thing in order to have a go at them. Have you had a job where you didn't like your co-workers? Or have to agree with decisions you don't like from someone above you? I'd say most of us have. I'm not necessarily saying its like that in BE but would it be that bigger deal if it was? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 12:00:13 GMT -5
Its weird that people use this 'yes' men thing in order to have a go at them. Have you had a job where you didn't like your co-workers? Or have to agree with decisions you don't like from someone above you? I'd say most of us have. I'm not necessarily saying its like that in BE but would it be that bigger deal if it was? I'm not having a go at them. Just saying the way *I think* it is. Anybody in Wings that wasn't Paul McCartney was his subordinate. And it's the same in Beady Eye for everyone who isn't Liam Gallagher. |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 11, 2012 15:35:07 GMT -5
I love World's Not Set In Stone, I think the studio version could be brilliant. I'm personally not looking forward to that song. WNSIS in my opinion is the same middling stuff that was on DGSS. The songwriting is "meh". For me, other than Liam's voice, there's nothing that excites me about that song. It's not a single, it's barely an album track, it probably should be a b-side and nothing more. If that's one of the album tracks that they're depending on, not even as a single, but as a solid album track, then I'd be extremely of the Beady Eye album. |
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Post by nataliemckinney on Aug 11, 2012 16:17:21 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the second album, and I do think that since they've had some time, they'll put more into the second album than DGSS, which I liked, but wished had some harder-rocking songs on there. Can't wait for them to tour again.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Aug 12, 2012 18:20:41 GMT -5
Its easy to say Gem and Andy are yes men, but Liam has always seemed quite receptive to their ideas too, even dating back to their early Oasis days. Its very much apparent in the DBTT DVD.
I think they all bring different things to the table and seem respective of each others ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 12:41:55 GMT -5
The second album is the last Beady Eye album.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 13:26:37 GMT -5
Loads of poor bands soldier on for years, a band fronted by Liam Gallagher isn't going to disband after only two albums... Liam has the oasis fanbase and though there is the "Liam and noel fanboys" issues there are still some oasis fans who still love oasis's frontman, in countries like like Japan and south America, they're pretty up for BDI. The oasis fanbase was huge so even if most of it prefers Noel now there's still loads of people up for BDI... There's a lot of talent in that band as well, gem and chris etc...
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Post by gdforever on Aug 18, 2012 14:14:03 GMT -5
I am sure they made a good chunk of money this past album/tour. Don't think we need to worry about them not being able to afford it.
The only thing that I think is possible is BDI getting discouraged by a lack of growth in their fan base. Not saying it's gonna happen before every jumps on me.
But Liam seemed less the enamored with their live receptions towards the end.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 15:00:57 GMT -5
Liam seems pretty happy at his BDI shows and he says that all he wants to do is make music and if he's enjoying it then he's not gonna stop if the fanbase isn't growing much
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Post by hypermyth on Aug 18, 2012 15:35:01 GMT -5
The second album is the last Beady Eye album. and after that OASIS |
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 18, 2012 16:07:09 GMT -5
Liam seems pretty happy at his BDI shows and he says that all he wants to do is make music and if he's enjoying it then he's not gonna stop if the fanbase isn't growing much But you know full well that he'd instantly drop all the BDI stuff if Noel even so much as hinted at an Oasis reunion. |
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