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Post by Bittersweet Split on Apr 15, 2012 7:59:15 GMT -5
I really liked There is a Light That Never Goes Out, but quite frankly I want to strangle the singer, (Morrissey looks cool as fuck but I cannot deal with it)
It sounds better in Everyday is like Sunday than the recommended singles (This Charming Man), but even then..
I'm going to give them a shot since I need to make my own opinion on a band this 'big', downloading The Queen Is Dead soon and going to give it a proper listen.
I know if I end up calling them complete shit, I might get killed by some regular queens in this section, but what does everyone else think of them?
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 15, 2012 8:30:44 GMT -5
i know some fanboys will kill me for this but i have a problem with morrisseys voice. i can't listen to it that much. it gets annoying sometimes
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Post by mach on Apr 15, 2012 9:14:26 GMT -5
Never heard of them.
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 15, 2012 12:33:52 GMT -5
I know if I end up calling them complete shit, I might get killed by some regular queens in this section Don't worry, I won't kill you, Bittersweet Split. As the most of this forum knows, I've been a massive fan of The Smiths for years and years. They're the band for my life and you can see that I have my forever guitar hero as my avatar. The Queen Is Dead is a great album, but if you get a chance, try to get and listen to Hatful of Hollow as well. There's songs from their legendary Peel Session on this album and they're even better than the album version. I know they're the band like - if you love them, you love them,but if you hate them, you hate them. There's nothing in betweens and it's same for Moz. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Apr 15, 2012 13:10:17 GMT -5
I wasn't too fond of them at first - Morrissey's voice and singing style takes some time to get used to - but I really like them now. They're pretty unusual for a popular band, don't know any band that even comes close to what the Smiths do. The Queen Is Dead is really great, although I think the best way to get started with them is the 2-CD Sound of the Smiths set. Most of their hits and some amazing b-sides.
Give them a try, and if you don't like them, try again in a few months - it's worth it.
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Post by daii on Apr 15, 2012 14:40:45 GMT -5
I love the smiths, I've seen morrissey live and he is amazing.
"how soon is now?" is my favourite song. "oscillate wildly" is, for me, the best instrumental ever
and "I know it's over" is just stunning, I used to lay in the bed and listen to this song in the dark of my room, is beutifull!
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Post by matt on Apr 15, 2012 14:50:53 GMT -5
I've never really understood haters of The Smiths. Sure, Morrissey is very opinionated, I don't agree with everything he says but it's also that single mindedness that really makes The Smiths unique and very special. The main reason I can't understand why folk don't like them is that the lyrics are something that everyone can relate to - if you can't relate to any Smiths song then you must not be human. Morrissey bears his soul out on record and on stage while the majority of us would never bear to expose our true feelings. And it's not contrived either. You can tell that by his persona, the eloquence of his lyrics and, much to the annoyance of others, his vocals. Talking of his voice, most people don't like it because it's 'different' - anything that is different from the norm is not going to be universally accepted. But because Morrissey is such a unique character, he needs a unique voice, infact everything about him needs to be unique and it is - there's nothing cliched about him. Yet the main reason he is so unique is that I don't think any pop star or rock star has got nowhere near to his level of emotionally connecting with the audience. A singer for the common person, for me alone, etc. It's very comforting and reassuring, not at all depressing.
Hell, I haven't even got on to Johnny Marr but I'm sure we all can see why he's is so great!
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Post by johnlennon696 on Apr 16, 2012 13:37:10 GMT -5
I think getting the sound of the smiths cd is a good idea, so many great tracks on there it will be hard for you not to be hooked imo...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 13:54:17 GMT -5
I just don't understand how people don't like The Smiths. I acknowledge that they dont and accept it, I just don't get it. Even if you don't like Morrissey's voice, Marr weaves his own hooks and melodies to the point where I'm baffled as to why they haven't released instrumental versions (if there are someone PLEASE TELL ME).
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Post by Headmaster on Apr 16, 2012 14:46:49 GMT -5
All their songs sounds the same, they didn't experiment with their music and are 1 pony trick, I hate the singer and he voice annoys me but I liked the guitarrist and their b-sides are better than the album tracks.
I'm not talking about Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 18:32:24 GMT -5
I just don't understand how people don't like The Smiths. I acknowledge that they dont and accept it, I just don't get it. Even if you don't like Morrissey's voice, Marr weaves his own hooks and melodies to the point where I'm baffled as to why they haven't released instrumental versions (if there are someone PLEASE TELL ME). the voice is quite important to a band if you don't like his voice you simply won't spend enough time listening to the smiths to appreciate how great johnny marr is. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2012 18:24:02 GMT -5
I just don't understand how people don't like The Smiths. I acknowledge that they dont and accept it, I just don't get it. Even if you don't like Morrissey's voice, Marr weaves his own hooks and melodies to the point where I'm baffled as to why they haven't released instrumental versions (if there are someone PLEASE TELL ME). the voice is quite important to a band if you don't like his voice you simply won't spend enough time listening to the smiths to appreciate how great johnny marr is. I suppose I dont get how Morrissey's voice is so divisive. I know someone who listens to a bunch of music with a bunch of shit yelpy vocalists and cant stand Morrissey. Opinons and all that, whatever.  |
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Post by Cast on Apr 17, 2012 18:46:09 GMT -5
Marr was originally the reason I got into the Smiths. He is one of the most interesting and melodic guitar players ever. Honestly I can't say enough about him. For a while I though John Squire was the greatest guitar player of his generation and while he is extremely talented the sheer pop/rock brilliance of Marr's guitar work as well as his experimentation on the instrument are so unique and incredibly influential. Just listen to songs like Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now, How Soon Is Now or This Charming Man (probably the greatest jangly pop guitar riff of all time) to get a little taste of his skill set.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2012 19:29:47 GMT -5
I love Squire, but he let himself down with Second Coming. Nevermind the songwriting, that's debatable, but the fact that he let go of his Byrds-inspired chiming guitar for Jimmy Page wank is depressing. And I'm a fan of Page!
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 18, 2012 1:58:09 GMT -5
As being a massive The Smiths fan myself, I can say that only Moz can sing their songs, the songs written by him/Johnny. Without any of them, Moz, Johnny, Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce there would have been no The Smiths.
I was listening to their first album last night to realize again that how great "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle" sounds.
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Post by hangthedj on Apr 18, 2012 9:25:09 GMT -5
As being a massive The Smiths fan myself, I can say that only Moz can sing their songs, the songs written by him/Johnny. Without any of them, Moz, Johnny, Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce there would have been no The Smiths. I was listening to their first album last night to realize again that how great "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle" sounds. The bass on The Hand That Rocks The Cradle is one of the best moments off their debut album. And that's saying something |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 10:57:01 GMT -5
As being a massive The Smiths fan myself, I can say that only Moz can sing their songs, the songs written by him/Johnny. Without any of them, Moz, Johnny, Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce there would have been no The Smiths. I was listening to their first album last night to realize again that how great "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle" sounds. Rourke and Joyce don't nearly get enough credit. An obvious choice, but the bass in Barbarism Begins at Home!!! Brilliance! And i agree 100%, all four of them were a musical match in heaven.  |
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Post by idledreamer on Apr 18, 2012 12:32:35 GMT -5
hang the dj, hang the dj hang the dj, hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj ..... TUNE  |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Apr 18, 2012 13:32:45 GMT -5
I love Squire, but he let himself down with Second Coming. Nevermind the songwriting, that's debatable, but the fact that he let go of his Byrds-inspired chiming guitar for Jimmy Page wank is depressing. And I'm a fan of Page! Squire's more spectacular, I guess. Say what you want about his originality, the guitar solos on Second Coming are pretty impressive (of course the Roses' earlier sound was way more unique and better, but I don't know many guitarists post-Page that could pull off songs like Tears). Marr on the other hand never goes too far with his playing, most Smiths songs are pretty much perfect - wouldn't change a thing if I could. As for the other Smiths, I was always impressed by the drums on The Queen Is Dead: Simply amazing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 13:37:44 GMT -5
Squire, Second Coming era, was all flash and no substance. A bunch of nice solos, yes, but nothing interesting. Marr put a lot into his guitar playing, but it was all very subtle and nuanced. To paraphrase Noel: "No one can play what Johnny played. He can't even play those tunes any more!" In my opinion, the guitar in William It Was Really Nothing is infinitely more interesting than almost everything Squire did.
Not to hate on Squire too much, I love his work, but Marr is my favorite guitar player of all time.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Apr 18, 2012 14:38:36 GMT -5
Going through the sound of the smiths now, it's good shit. Sounds like a mix of The Drums and Joy Division (although that might be like saying that the Beatles sound like Oasis). No 'bad' songs yet.
Shame about the vocalist still. It stops me from really enjoying the songs still. Hoping he grows on me.
The Headmaster Ritual, which should be one of my favorites by numbers, is pushing the 'like-dislike' line a little for some unknown reason..
and even though I've heard it thousands of times, How soon is now is really hitting me as to just how great it is. wow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 16:26:06 GMT -5
Joy Division and The Drums? err....
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Apr 19, 2012 2:05:49 GMT -5
They don't really sound like anything else (that I've heard), I just get those vibes at times, and sometimes I say things
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 19, 2012 2:23:23 GMT -5
Joy Division and The Drums? err.... Hallelujah |
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Post by Headmaster on Apr 19, 2012 12:16:41 GMT -5
Ah The Smiths, mainly in their first album, was really influenced by Joy Division, even Morrissey vocals resembles Ian Curtis a little, just take a listen on Insight to see for yourself.
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