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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 16:18:39 GMT -5
all you people who claim Noel is wrong to play Oasis songs are utter fucking (unts. He wrote them so he has every right to play them when and where he sees fit. you BDI fanboys who claim "Oh Liam didnt play any and he is better for it" good for you, but dont critisise Noel for playing his songs he has ownership of. He wrote some of the best songs of alot of peoples lives and is prepared to play them to these people so fair play to him. if festival goers want to hear Wonderwall then Noel is giving it to them. and No, I am not a 'NGHFB fanboy' i have seen Beady Eye twice in 2011 and always liked Liam more than Noel, but how dare you question a man for playing songs he wrote himself.
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Post by spaneli on Jan 21, 2012 16:20:51 GMT -5
Overreacting much?
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Post by gdforever on Jan 21, 2012 16:22:06 GMT -5
Could you stop called people names?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 16:33:37 GMT -5
I don't anyone here has ever discussed this issue before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 16:39:15 GMT -5
Overreacting much? dont want to argue with you Spaneli coz you are one of the L4E members on here who always speak sence, but I dont think I am overreacting.. too many people critise Noel for playing his own songs, I mean jesus christ, Noel Gallagher playing Talk Tonight/Supersonic upsetting so many people on this forum is fucking joke. he isnt "playing it the easy way" he doesnt "need to grow balls" as some spanner so elegantly put it this mornign, he is playing his own songs which he owns and always will.
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Post by shaokahnage on Jan 21, 2012 18:52:32 GMT -5
Overreacting much? slightly ironic from the guy who writes an essay everytime he replies to someone
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Post by spaneli on Jan 21, 2012 19:08:28 GMT -5
Overreacting much? slightly ironic from the guy who writes an essay everytime he replies to someone You forgot to put "well organized essays". ;D
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jan 21, 2012 19:13:28 GMT -5
no need for name calling. I for one originally thought neither Liam nor Noel should play Oasis songs--That's what they are, they're Oasis songs, as in made famous by Oasis. But yes, i obviously recognize Noel wrote them. When he decided he was gonna play "a few Oasis tunes" i was like hey, they're his tunes he can play them, i just hope he only plays "a few". I was disappointed when i saw half his setlist was Oasis. I criticized him accordingly and some of his supporters(i also consider myself one, for the record) attacked me for it. Their claim was-Just as Noel's- that he didn't have enough material, and that was the reason he didn't present his new stuff alone, like he should, like Beady Eye did. You know, start from scratch, see if people really like what you have to offer without relying on the past. I didn't buy it, obviously... but hey, look at what's going down now. Noel has decided to play a setlist that's over half Oasis songs. I am not gonna criticize him for it at this point. Everyone knows what he's doing and why he's doing it. Sure, i'll still express my discontent with that decision but hey, it's just my opinion. All i am saying is let's just not pretend, you know what i'm saying.
btw, big props to greenDay fan for stepping up and calming things down. Spaneli, we already know the kind of user you are, so no surprises there. peace everyone =)
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 21, 2012 19:32:54 GMT -5
No need to enhance the idiotic Noel-Liam divide, but you're right: Noel should keep playing Oasis songs.
It's a bit ironic considering he's playing them after walking away, but I'm glad he is.
I think a lot of people take Oasis for granted. Imagine never hearing any Oasis song live ever again. Yeah. Ok.
Oasis songs with Noel, while not as meaningful as with Liam banded with Oasis, is better than nothing.
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Post by thomas09 on Jan 21, 2012 20:06:06 GMT -5
Overreacting much? dont want to argue with you Spaneli coz you are one of the L4E members on here who always speak sence, but I dont think I am overreacting.. too many people critise Noel for playing his own songs, I mean jesus christ, Noel Gallagher playing Talk Tonight/Supersonic upsetting so many people on this forum is fucking joke. he isnt "playing it the easy way" he doesnt "need to grow balls" as some spanner so elegantly put it this mornign, he is playing his own songs which he owns and always will. get a grip of yourself you're acting like a pansy. if my comment really bothered you enough to start a thread then i give you my deepest apologies but ive got bigger issues, like criticising richard ashcroft for playing the drugs dont work
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jan 21, 2012 23:38:31 GMT -5
i gotta agree with Thomas09 here. Didn't really the post OP is refencing, but if that's what he said, he's exactly right. He is taking the easy way. Having said that, i am not gonna hate him for it or anything. I don't think Thomas will either, he's just voicing his disappointment.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 22, 2012 0:33:28 GMT -5
Beady Eye will play Oasis songs on the next tour. KILL THEM before they do.
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Post by warewolf95 on Jan 22, 2012 0:52:12 GMT -5
Im glad hes playing them and chose songs/arrangements that, at least at the moment, fit really good with his new material. Its like how Paul McCartney's no longer a Beatle, but its not strange at all to hear him play the Beatles songs he wrote (PLAY WINGS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!).
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Post by warewolf95 on Jan 22, 2012 0:55:19 GMT -5
Beady Eye will play Oasis songs on the next tour. KILL THEM before they do. The only songs I can logically hear them doing, and not sounding TOO weird, are obviously Songbird and Born On a Different Cloud, as to me, those are the most BDI-ish Oasis songs. Maybe the 2nd album will change that...
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Post by idledreamer on Jan 22, 2012 1:09:33 GMT -5
Beady Eye will play Oasis songs on the next tour. KILL THEM before they do. The only songs I can logically hear them doing, and not sounding TOO weird, are obviously Songbird and Born On a Different Cloud, as to me, those are the most BDI-ish Oasis songs. Maybe the 2nd album will change that... even though i really don't want them to do oasis songs i would really like to hear a proper live version of 'thank you for the good times' with liam vox.
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Post by BlueJay on Jan 22, 2012 1:15:01 GMT -5
Mate when you start off a post by calling a select group of people on this forum (unts, merely for having an opinion, you're argument doesn't have much merit to it. I agree with you, but no need to go all lgfaverish on everyone...
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Post by Winston Churchill on Jan 22, 2012 5:34:04 GMT -5
Calm down boys. I can see and do agree with what you are saying Mr HighFlyingPigeon, but it could have had voice in a different form.
A lot of childishness comes from people like lgfaver and thomas09, and it does partially ruin the forum. I don't think these children realize that this is the internet.
Winston.
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Post by thomas09 on Jan 22, 2012 5:57:31 GMT -5
Calm down boys. I can see and do agree with what you are saying Mr HighFlyingPigeon, but it could have had voice in a different form. A lot of childishness comes from people like lgfaver and thomas09, and it does partially ruin the forum. I don't think these children realize that this is the internet. Winston. i dont really think thats a fair comment to make, all i did in the first place was voiced my opinion and if that sounded harsh well sorry. then HighFlyingPigeon made a whole thread devoted to how wrong my opinion was so you cant really blame me if i was annoyed. To be honest, anyone who starts a new thread when there's already an active thread discussing the exact same topic, and they do that just to single out one users comment. thats childish. pretty petty too. Btw, apparently "anyone who claim Noel is wrong to play Oasis songs are utter fucking (unts". If thats not childish i dont know what is
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Post by Rain on Jan 22, 2012 6:13:47 GMT -5
Certain oasis songs can not be played neither sides. I think supersonic shouldn't been played by Noel, even if they're his songs. I do agree his songs and has rights to play them, because he wrote them. Wonderwall and Don't Look Back In Anger will always be played by Noel, no matter in Oasis or on his own.
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Post by LlAM on Jan 22, 2012 7:08:13 GMT -5
Noel is a big boy. He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jan 22, 2012 7:31:42 GMT -5
We're all (unts, you're a (unt, Noel's a (unt, Liam's a (unt, life is a (unt but there's your (unting luck.
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Post by manualex on Jan 22, 2012 7:49:09 GMT -5
We're all (unts, you're a (unt, Noel's a (unt, Liam's a (unt, life is a (unt but there's your (unting luck. Çunt
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Post by redlandsman87 on Jan 22, 2012 10:42:34 GMT -5
...should Paul McCartney, or Ringo Starr stop playing Beatles songs?
I mean, they aren't in The Beatles anymore. Forget that they wrote them, or had a huge part in the creative process or anything. When I go to a Paul McCartney concert, I don't want to hear any Beatles or Wings songs! I demand only Paul McCartney solo songs, from his most recently released record be performed! He is just riding on the success of hovering ghosts, by playing Beatles and Wings songs! That foolish bastard.
Oh, as well, Paul McCartney should stop playing John Lennon songs! John Lennon made them "what they were", what with his unique voice and unique approach to song writing. Forget that Paul and John had an amazing musical partnership, and he might be paying tribute for a long loved, long lost friend. They're not his, even though John and Paul wrote eye to eye or competitively against one another! He shouldn't even mention John, or The Beatles, or Wings. He's just "Paul" now, so all he should play and perform is Paul songs!
Don't even get me STARTED on Ringo! He only wrote two songs during his tenure in The Beatles, but even so, he shouldn't be kicking a dead horse by singing Yellow Submarine, or With A Little Help From My Friends, or even singing his own songs written for the Beatles! All I want to hear is new, freshly written Ringo material! By god, it's just plain WRONG to go to an Ex-Beatle concert, and even expect any Beatles material! It's just plain ABSURD! Those talentless hacks, by god, they ALL should be shot for their insensitivity, or by actually do what THEY AS PERFORMING ARTISTS WANT TO DO! They should bend to the whim and desire of every fan, every critic, every person who ever had an opinion on the matter!
In fact, John did the RIGHT thing in the 70s, by becoming a house husband and taking well deserved break from recording and touring! They should all take his lead, and just quit playing music all together. The only way they could possibly have ever avoided any criticism for being an Ex-Beatle and performing old Beatles standards, or always having the shadow of The Beatles hanging over them is by simply turning inwards, and never playing or singing a note ever again!
Those Gallagher boys should do the same! They shouldn't play music at all, by god, even if they did write and perform many of the songs for the past twenty or so years, and they have every right to! In fact, when I go to a concert, I EXPECT A COMPLETELY NEW AND ORIGINAL SET LIST of songs they wrote twenty minutes prior to heading to the stage! Fuck the old stuff, I DEMAND MORE AND MORE AND MORE FROM THESE MEN WHO HAVE GIVEN ME SO MUCH ALREADY.
Down with ever repeating songs! Down with writing new songs! DOWN WITH PLAYING SONGS PEOPLE KNOW AND LOVE AND CHERISH! Down with Oasis, down with the Beatles, Justin Bieber is WHERE IT'S AT! He's the only true talent nowadays, by god! He gives fans EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT AND EXPECT!
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Post by therover on Jan 22, 2012 10:46:05 GMT -5
Calm the fuck down. You lose all credibility when you use the word 'fanboy'; not that you had any in the first place.
This thread is about four months late anyway.
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Post by redlandsman87 on Jan 22, 2012 11:13:21 GMT -5
No, he hasn't lost credibility. They're fanboys, rightly so, and they deserve to be called such. Wah, wah, Team Liam! Team Noel! Team Shut The Fuck Up, people. He's calling out a bunch of idiots who have no idea what they're talking about, or even have a say in the matter whatsoever. Noel can do and play whatever the hell he wants, Liam as well can do and play whatever the hell he wants. Anyone who thinks they "shouldn't play this or that" are complete tools. They're adults, they're professionals, they're their own men, and they can do whatever they want to, regardless of fan opinion or not. If Noel wanted to play Dancing Queen and Lil Wayne covers all night, that's his choice. Don't want to hear them? Then don't buy a ticket.
Should Liam play Oasis songs? Only if he wants to. Should Noel keep playing, or stop playing Oasis songs? Only if he decides so.
Noel and Liam don't tell you guys how to do your jobs. Far from it for you to think you have a right to tell them how to do theirs.
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