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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 11:52:28 GMT -5
If Beady Eye starts playing songs written by Noel Gallagher, Liam will have to eat shit in every subsequent interview he does.
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Post by drteter on Jan 22, 2012 12:10:12 GMT -5
If Beady Eye starts playing songs written by Noel Gallagher, Liam will have to eat shit in every subsequent interview he does. Agree completely, but yet I can't see them not playing one Noel-written tune. Cigarettes & Alcohol and Rock 'n Roll Star are too enticing a tandem for Liam to pass up. This next tour is when we find out just how stubborn LAG are going to be about this whole thing. I think it'd be hilarious if they started playing a full band version of Supersonic. All the threads that would happen then about whether the BDI version was better than the Oasis version or the NGHFB one, etc.
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Post by RocketMan on Jan 22, 2012 12:31:49 GMT -5
oasis songs would crash the beady eye songs and would make them look random
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Post by thomas09 on Jan 22, 2012 12:41:25 GMT -5
If Beady Eye starts playing songs written by Noel Gallagher, Liam will have to eat shit in every subsequent interview he does.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 12:51:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't start a thread like this but there's nothing wrong with "a songwriter/singer plays the songs he wrote", it has nothing to do with grow balls, the term grow balls is so overused when it comes to Noel's setlist. The one that wrote the songs will always have the ownership. I don't want BDI play any of Noel written tunes because the rest of the setlist is going to be overshadowed, they have to make some good tunes themselves. And I love forum essays.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 13:17:37 GMT -5
If Beady Eye starts playing songs written by Noel Gallagher, Liam will have to eat shit in every subsequent interview he does. Lol I'm sure you're joking and agree that's totally different. Macca is in the autumn of his career and plays Lennon songs as somewhat of a tribute. They shared songwriting credit on the Beatles tunes (inc. Lennon's Give Peace a Chance) and Macca actually co-wrote A Day in the Life. In the years following the break-up of the Beatles neither would have *dreamed* of playing the others' tracks. They couldn't stand each other either. ... Plus Macca hasn't spend the last two years calling Noel Gallagher a c*nt and saying he doesn't need him, lol.
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Post by thomas09 on Jan 22, 2012 14:27:04 GMT -5
Yeah it is a totally different situation, and im glad he does it too cos at least one member of the beatles gotta play a day in the life live Yeah it would be pretty funny if he ever plays a noel song after the things he's said i still think he has the right to play one or two though, as a tribute to the oasis days
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jan 22, 2012 20:23:24 GMT -5
lol a lot butthurt'n here but whatever... let's remember who started the name calling please, just for the record.
now back on topic, Paul McCartney did NOT play Beatles stuff from the get go. Either some people wanna change what actually happened or are too young and ignorant. No one expected Noel to never play Oasis songs, some people just think he should've done it the right way and offered his solo outing first and let it stand alone, see how people reacted to it. Anyways, this is getting old. Some of you like to call people out but then turn around and do exact same thing you are condemning others of doing. NEXT!
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Post by shaokahnage on Jan 22, 2012 20:29:29 GMT -5
.............vaginas
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Post by warewolf95 on Jan 24, 2012 17:46:11 GMT -5
...should Paul McCartney, or Ringo Starr stop playing Beatles songs? I mean, they aren't in The Beatles anymore. Forget that they wrote them, or had a huge part in the creative process or anything. When I go to a Paul McCartney concert, I don't want to hear any Beatles or Wings songs! I demand only Paul McCartney solo songs, from his most recently released record be performed! He is just riding on the success of hovering ghosts, by playing Beatles and Wings songs! That foolish bastard. Oh, as well, Paul McCartney should stop playing John Lennon songs! John Lennon made them "what they were", what with his unique voice and unique approach to song writing. Forget that Paul and John had an amazing musical partnership, and he might be paying tribute for a long loved, long lost friend. They're not his, even though John and Paul wrote eye to eye or competitively against one another! He shouldn't even mention John, or The Beatles, or Wings. He's just "Paul" now, so all he should play and perform is Paul songs! Don't even get me STARTED on Ringo! He only wrote two songs during his tenure in The Beatles, but even so, he shouldn't be kicking a dead horse by singing Yellow Submarine, or With A Little Help From My Friends, or even singing his own songs written for the Beatles! All I want to hear is new, freshly written Ringo material! By god, it's just plain WRONG to go to an Ex-Beatle concert, and even expect any Beatles material! It's just plain ABSURD! Those talentless hacks, by god, they ALL should be shot for their insensitivity, or by actually do what THEY AS PERFORMING ARTISTS WANT TO DO! They should bend to the whim and desire of every fan, every critic, every person who ever had an opinion on the matter! In fact, John did the RIGHT thing in the 70s, by becoming a house husband and taking well deserved break from recording and touring! They should all take his lead, and just quit playing music all together. The only way they could possibly have ever avoided any criticism for being an Ex-Beatle and performing old Beatles standards, or always having the shadow of The Beatles hanging over them is by simply turning inwards, and never playing or singing a note ever again! Those Gallagher boys should do the same! They shouldn't play music at all, by god, even if they did write and perform many of the songs for the past twenty or so years, and they have every right to! In fact, when I go to a concert, I EXPECT A COMPLETELY NEW AND ORIGINAL SET LIST of songs they wrote twenty minutes prior to heading to the stage! Fuck the old stuff, I DEMAND MORE AND MORE AND MORE FROM THESE MEN WHO HAVE GIVEN ME SO MUCH ALREADY. Down with ever repeating songs! Down with writing new songs! DOWN WITH PLAYING SONGS PEOPLE KNOW AND LOVE AND CHERISH! Down with Oasis, down with the Beatles, Justin Bieber is WHERE IT'S AT! He's the only true talent nowadays, by god! He gives fans EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT AND EXPECT! Obviously you are trolling, but Paul does need to drop at least 75% of the Beatles stuff, for the love of god. He DOES need to fucking play Tug Of War already, for fuck's sake, and he should play Hope Of Deliverance, Beautiful Night and something from C/C besides Fine Line....
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 25, 2012 10:44:38 GMT -5
For Noel's first solo tour I am completely fine with the amount of Oasis songs being performed. Some of his b-sides and bonus songs from HFBs would be too slow in a live setting in my opinion. Plus I never got to hear Noel sing Half The World Away, Talk Tonight, It's Good To Be Free, Supersonic and Wonderwall in person. When Oasis played the US, they just rocked the same setlist every single night. It seemed other countries were fortunate to hear Half The World Away and Whatever but not the USA. Not since 1996. For future tours I'm sure the number of Oasis songs will dwindle with time. I eventually see it being 75% Noel solo material but for now, let's just enjoy all the great Noel written songs he's been performing on his trot around the globe.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jan 25, 2012 13:09:21 GMT -5
The only thing I find strange is the order in which he plays them. Surely it would make more sense to start with the solo songs while everyone's on a high, play the Oasis classics during the mid-gig lull, finish with HFB then mix the encore?
I'd be gutted if he didn't play any at all. As good as the solo songs are, it's Noel Gallagher and I want to sing along to Don't Look Back In Anger and the rest. Other than Supersonic - which I love as an Oasis song but aren't keen on acoustically - the songs he plays aren't really what you would consider Liam songs.
I'd rather Beady Eye didn't play Oasis, and I think their gigs are good enough as it is. If they did insist then I hope it's just the occasional Songbird rather than filling the setlist with old songs. Having said that, I'd go fucking mental if I was actually at the gig and heard the first few chords of Cigarettes and Alcohol.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 25, 2012 13:51:45 GMT -5
Although I enjoyed (It's Good) To Be Free and Mucky Fingers when I saw him in November, he should open his gig with Everybody's On The Run cos it was fantastic live.
Noel, you can do it!
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Post by jilliam on Jan 27, 2012 2:39:15 GMT -5
Saw Noel twice in 2011 and his gigs need Oasis songs. I saw BE once last year and their gigs don't need Oasis songs. BE have proven themselves to me, I sure as fuck hope they NEVER play ANY Oasis songs. Oasis is DEAD! Cherish it in whatever special moment you have.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 27, 2012 10:43:41 GMT -5
well it would be fucked up to hear/see Gem playing the intro to Cigarettes & Alcohol or Rock n Roll Star, wouldnt it? they would feel like a cover band, tbh.
but I'll be fucking happy if they play To Be Where There's Life, Songbird and Turn Up The Sun.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 27, 2012 13:25:12 GMT -5
well it would be fucked up to hear/see Gem playing the intro to Cigarettes & Alcohol or Rock n Roll Star, wouldnt it? they would feel like a cover band, tbh. but I'll be fucking happy if they play To Be Where There's Life, Songbird and Turn Up The Sun. Good point! Wasn't Gem living with his parents and giving guitar lessons at the local music shop when Noel called him to be in the band in December 1999? Gem has no business playing those songs. Show some pride Gem. Write better tunes!
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Post by spaneli on Jan 27, 2012 13:36:05 GMT -5
Saw Noel twice in 2011 and his gigs need Oasis songs. I saw BE once last year and their gigs don't need Oasis songs. BE have proven themselves to me, I sure as fuck hope they NEVER play ANY Oasis songs. Oasis is DEAD! Cherish it in whatever special moment you have. Tbh, Beady Eye will prove themselves to me when they actually write an above average record. Until then I'll view them as an unsastainable niche act.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 13:43:04 GMT -5
well it would be fucked up to hear/see Gem playing the intro to Cigarettes & Alcohol or Rock n Roll Star, wouldnt it? they would feel like a cover band, tbh. but I'll be fucking happy if they play To Be Where There's Life, Songbird and Turn Up The Sun. Good point! Wasn't Gem living with his parents and giving guitar lessons at the local music shop when Noel called him to be in the band in December 1999? Gem has no business playing those songs. Show some pride Gem. Write better tunes! As far as I know, Gem returned home because his mother was ill. Before that he was in the process of recording a new Heavy Stereo album who just came off of a tour with Paul Weller. And it's not like Gem is playing and singing the tunes in his own band. It isn't exactly From The Jam when you have the man who made these songs famous singing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 13:55:24 GMT -5
regret making this awful thread.. Mods please playpen it? ?
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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 27, 2012 16:13:06 GMT -5
regret making this awful thread.. Mods please playpen it? ? is it like eating your own crap?
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Post by jakob61907 on Jan 27, 2012 22:28:21 GMT -5
Noel shouldnt play oasis songs?
Tell that to these fans.
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Post by truefaith on Jan 28, 2012 7:45:46 GMT -5
I have no problem with Noel playing oasis tunes, but when he ruins a Liam's song like supersonic by playing it in accoustic, I think he should rethink his setlist. Hope he won't do it with rock n roll star.
On the 3 Liam's sung song he plays "it's good to be free" is very personal, he's making a very new version of it, less good than the original but ok.
For Wonderwall, he plays the Ryan Adams verion,it's a personal song and he used to sing it, it's ok
BUT Supersonic, it's a joke, it's not a personal song at all, he wrote it in half an hour after a jam in the studio, the lyrics tells what was around him. It's not a song deep from his heart that he wrote alone one night, if there's one Oasis song that easily belong to the all band an not just Noel it's Supersonic. Noel wrote it but in a collective environment, it was inspired by the moment by the band. Liam gave it all his personnality, they record it one time, there's no demo of it, no version of Noel to explain what was in his head. Its an Oasis song.
Noel never even sang it before 2010, he said so himself. And now he's taking out everything that's good about the song and we have to think it's genius. Fuck that, Supersonic, is Liam, is Noel's electric guitar, it has nothing to do in accoutic.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jan 28, 2012 10:38:24 GMT -5
I have no problem with Noel playing oasis tunes, but when he ruins a Liam's song like supersonic by playing it in accoustic, I think he should rethink his setlist. Hope he won't do it with rock n roll star. On the 3 Liam's sung song he plays "it's good to be free" is very personal, he's making a very new version of it, less good than the original but ok. For Wonderwall, he plays the Ryan Adams verion,it's a personal song and he used to sing it, it's ok BUT Supersonic, it's a joke, it's not a personal song at all, he wrote it in half an hour after a jam in the studio, the lyrics tells what was around him. It's not a song deep from his heart that he wrote alone one night, if there's one Oasis song that easily belong to the all band an not just Noel it's Supersonic. Noel wrote it but in a collective environment, it was inspired by the moment by the band. Liam gave it all his personnality, they record it one time, there's no demo of it, no version of Noel to explain what was in his head. Its an Oasis song. Noel never even sang it before 2010, he said so himself. And now he's taking out everything that's good about the song and we have to think it's genius. Fuck that, Supersonic, is Liam, is Noel's electric guitar, it has nothing to do in accoutic. Supersonic acoustic is superb. Really liked what Noel done with it.
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Post by carlober on Jan 28, 2012 10:51:04 GMT -5
Supersonic acoustic is superb. Really liked what Noel done with it. Yep, it's a great version of a mighty song. Who cares if it was written in five minutes, or if noel never sang it in a demo...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2012 10:55:34 GMT -5
I have no problem with Noel playing oasis tunes, but when he ruins a Liam's song like supersonic by playing it in accoustic, I think he should rethink his setlist. Hope he won't do it with rock n roll star. On the 3 Liam's sung song he plays "it's good to be free" is very personal, he's making a very new version of it, less good than the original but ok. For Wonderwall, he plays the Ryan Adams verion,it's a personal song and he used to sing it, it's ok BUT Supersonic, it's a joke, it's not a personal song at all, he wrote it in half an hour after a jam in the studio, the lyrics tells what was around him. It's not a song deep from his heart that he wrote alone one night, if there's one Oasis song that easily belong to the all band an not just Noel it's Supersonic. Noel wrote it but in a collective environment, it was inspired by the moment by the band. Liam gave it all his personnality, they record it one time, there's no demo of it, no version of Noel to explain what was in his head. Its an Oasis song. Noel never even sang it before 2010, he said so himself. And now he's taking out everything that's good about the song and we have to think it's genius. Fuck that, Supersonic, is Liam, is Noel's electric guitar, it has nothing to do in accoutic. I prefer his version of IGTBF. His voice adds much depth to the song. The original one isn't bad, but I wouldn't have thought "this song is great" if Noel hadn't sung it. Don't like Supersonic acoustic either, but Liam's voice during DOYS era was too damaged to make it right most of the time. I thought Noel has played it at DOYS soundchecks?
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