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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 17, 2011 16:27:21 GMT -5
Say what you want about the Tea Party, but at least they were peaceful and mounted something semi-serious. This whole Occupy Wall Street 'movement' is such bullshit - threatening violence, causing mayhem, lacking a coherent message, and complaining just for the sake of it. The ones in DC are now marching down where I work in order to disrupt rush hour traffic. What fucking morons.
And where's the media's criticism on all of this? Oh. Right. The lamestream media are liberal biased.
What nonsense.
But even ignoring those comparisons, the movement - and I really despair in calling it that - is ridiculous to begin with.
Not only are they denouncing capitalism while they sip their Starbucks latte rendering their whole point contradictory, but they are wasting their time marching against the 1% when they could be working hard and striving to become the 1%. Hard work provides dividends.
This is exactly what's wrong with entitlement society.
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Post by lionsden® on Nov 17, 2011 16:36:55 GMT -5
They should go back to their jobs, find a job, or try and start their own business.
I saw an artilce the other day saying that the "99%" should be Time Magazine's Person of the year. I wish to be no part of that.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 17, 2011 17:01:20 GMT -5
Say what you want about the Tea Party, but at least they were peaceful and mounted something semi-serious. This whole Occupy Wall Street 'movement' is such bullshit - threatening violence, causing mayhem, lacking a coherent message, and complaining just for the sake of it. The ones in DC are now marching down where I work in order to disrupt rush hour traffic. What fucking morons. And where's the media's criticism on all of this? Oh. Right. The lamestream media are liberal biased. What nonsense. But even ignoring those comparisons, the movement - and I really despair in calling it that - is ridiculous to begin with. Not only are they denouncing capitalism while they sip their Starbucks latte rendering their whole point contradictory, but they are wasting their time marching against the 1% when they could be working hard and striving to become the 1%. Hard work provides dividends. This is exactly what's wrong with entitlement society. you're such an idiot. i can't believe it. your capitalism will destroy your whole country. the wall street idiots crashed the whole financial system three years ago. it's about time that people stand up against all this
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Post by allah on Nov 17, 2011 17:15:31 GMT -5
Have those occupy idiots fucked off and found a job yet?
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Post by gdforever on Nov 17, 2011 17:18:25 GMT -5
From what I understand they aren't communists wanting to take down all companies.
They are people frustrated with the preferential treatment given to the rich and the big business that endangers the livelihoods of the 99%
Banks gambling with their savings leading to the consequence of their taxes having to go to the businesses that caused the collapse so that the executives could take massive bonuses to line their own pockets. The entire financial system collapsing due to their own greed and irresponsibility. And the government, particularly the right, devoting their efforts to ensure that no legislation passes that could tie the hands of the financial wizards from screwing over the masses.
If only it were that easy to just "get a job" and shut up. Undoubtably if the Wall Street and Main Street had NOT caused this shit-storm most of these people WOULD be looking for or already gainfully employed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 17:28:29 GMT -5
Say what you want about the Tea Party, but at least they were peaceful and mounted something semi-serious. This whole Occupy Wall Street 'movement' is such bullshit - threatening violence, causing mayhem, lacking a coherent message, and complaining just for the sake of it. The ones in DC are now marching down where I work in order to disrupt rush hour traffic. What fucking morons. And where's the media's criticism on all of this? Oh. Right. The lamestream media are liberal biased. What nonsense. But even ignoring those comparisons, the movement - and I really despair in calling it that - is ridiculous to begin with. Not only are they denouncing capitalism while they sip their Starbucks latte rendering their whole point contradictory, but they are wasting their time marching against the 1% when they could be working hard and striving to become the 1%. Hard work provides dividends. This is exactly what's wrong with entitlement society. what makes the tea party more serious? what percentage of the protestors are drinking starbucks?
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Post by supersonic8587 on Nov 17, 2011 17:32:45 GMT -5
Yeah there has been a lot of violence in these protests. Is this the kind of violence you're speaking of?
Or maybe this.
Sorry, but all the violence I've see come of these protests is coming directly from police officers attacking non-violent protesters. "Threatening violence"? Please cite your sources as I have not heard of this. I'm genuinely intrigued to hear about it if this is the case.
It's easy for you to tell people to just get a job. Sure you have one, I have one, but it's not always that easy. There is only one open job for every four unemployed people in the United States currently, so even if all of those jobs were immediately filled, that would still leave 75% of the unemployed still without a job.
And it's not just about the current unemployment rate. The power of the government currently lies in the hands of the big banks and financial institutions, which act through members of congress. If you need proof just look at the recent bailout of these companies who shot themselves in the foot and deserved no help from our government. They are helping the rich get richer which leads to the poor getting poorer.
The last time the gap between the rich and poor in the United States was this high was in the 1930s. A little something called The Great Depression happened then, so if you think that's something we should be striving for, then I can see your problem with these protests.
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Post by thuperthonic on Nov 17, 2011 17:39:01 GMT -5
NL4E, if we wanted to hear what Fox News thought about OWS, we would watch Fox News. Just so you know.
All Americans should support protest in the face of injustice.
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Post by Rifles on Nov 17, 2011 17:54:16 GMT -5
From what I understand they aren't communists wanting to take down all companies. They are people frustrated with the preferential treatment given to the rich and the big business that endangers the livelihoods of the 99% Banks gambling with their savings leading to the consequence of their taxes having to go to the businesses that caused the collapse so that the executives could take massive bonuses to line their own pockets. The entire financial system collapsing due to their own greed and irresponsibility. And the government, particularly the right, devoting their efforts to ensure that no legislation passes that could tie the hands of the financial wizards from screwing over the masses. If only it were that easy to just "get a job" and shut up. Undoubtably if the Wall Street and Main Street had NOT caused this shit-storm most of these people WOULD be looking for or already gainfully employed. For a Canadian that's pretty impressive - you pretty much nailed it. You forgot to trash all the stinky "liberals" though and pretend like the next Republican President is going to magically fix everything. Absolutely hilarious everytime this supposed political expert makes a post regarding politics. Soooo misguided.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 17, 2011 18:55:17 GMT -5
NL4E, if we wanted to hear what Fox News thought about OWS, we would watch Fox News. Just so you know. All Americans should support protest in the face of injustice. ! it's a shame really. it's about time to fight the biggest terrorist organization in the world: the wall street. capitalism in it's modern way failed. people didn't learn anything from 2008. politics should get back the control otherwise greece will just be the beginning of a world wide collapse
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 17, 2011 19:30:49 GMT -5
200 people have been arrested in NYC. They have broken into buildings in St Lous. There were threats of Molotov Cocktails.
If this was the Tea Party you lot and the media would be raging. The double standard at play is ridiculous, albeit expected.
And aiming to disrupt rush hour traffic? WTF? Get the fuck out of here you morons.
Drop the protest signs and go on job search sites, or enroll in a class to further your education. What morons.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 17, 2011 19:39:14 GMT -5
NL4E, if we wanted to hear what Fox News thought about OWS, we would watch Fox News. Just so you know. All Americans should support protest in the face of injustice. ! it's a shame really. it's about time to fight the biggest terrorist organization in the world: the wall street. capitalism in it's modern way failed. people didn't learn anything from 2008. politics should get back the control otherwise greece will just be the beginning of a world wide collapse The problem isn't with capitalism. The problem is with a growing entitlement society.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 19:45:50 GMT -5
exactly the super rich feel they are entitled to pay fuck all tax
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Post by gdforever on Nov 17, 2011 19:54:59 GMT -5
! it's a shame really. it's about time to fight the biggest terrorist organization in the world: the wall street. capitalism in it's modern way failed. people didn't learn anything from 2008. politics should get back the control otherwise greece will just be the beginning of a world wide collapse The problem isn't with capitalism. The problem is with a growing entitlement society. Yeah...it was the people at the bottom causing the current economic problems. It has absolutely nothing to do with Wall Street and Main Street abusing the system to make money and the regulatory systems being systematically corrupted by big business playing fast and loose with other people's money or with their own money and expecting the taxpayers to pay for their mistakes. How DARE people think that they are entitled to a government that properly monitors and oversees their countries financial sector! I'll tell you what. I live in Canada. We are significantly more socialist than that US could ever think about being. And this financial crisis has hit us significantly less. So don't try to bullshit me that people arguing for fair treatment and proper, effective, independent oversight unhindered by subversion by lobby groups are the problem. Turn off your FOX news channel.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 17, 2011 20:02:16 GMT -5
How DARE people think that they are entitled to a government that properly monitors and oversees their countries financial sector! Riddle me this: Why do the supporters support Obama, and why does Obama support the protesters? I don't think adding what he has to the deficit is going to help matters. I don't think that his failed stimulus helped, either. But ok, whatever. Let the blind follow the blind. And still, no one has given any answer why The Tea Party were criticized when they held respectable protests and actually mounted to something whereas the media ignore the nonsense of OWS. My guess is that you all know there's a double standard at play here. Turn off Fox News? Please. How about you turn off all your liberal channels. New Poll: 63% disapprove of the movement, only 23% support it. My job here is done.
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Post by masterplan200 on Nov 17, 2011 20:03:26 GMT -5
How DARE people think that they are entitled to a government that properly monitors and oversees their countries financial sector! Riddle me this: Why do the supporters support Obama, and why does Obama support the protesters? I don't think adding what he has to the deficit is going to help matters. I don't think that his failed stimulus helped, either. But ok, whatever. Let the blind follow the blind. And still, no one has given any answer why The Tea Party were criticized when they held respectable protests and actually mounted to something whereas the media ignore the nonsense of OWS. My guess is that you all know there's a double standard at play here. Turn off Fox News? Please. How about you turn off all your liberal channels. New Poll: 63% disapprove of the movement, only 23% support it. My job here is done. You do know all politicians are liars right?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 17, 2011 20:10:56 GMT -5
Protest all you want. I'm striving to be the 1%. 'Nuff said.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 20:16:01 GMT -5
Protest all you want. I'm striving to be the 1%. 'Nuff said. doing what?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 17, 2011 20:18:42 GMT -5
Protest all you want. I'm striving to be the 1%. 'Nuff said. doing what? It's a rhetorical comment. And sums up my position nicely. Shouting won't get you anywhere. Actually striving for something will. At least Lions gets it. Nice to know I have one supporter!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 20:20:34 GMT -5
It's a rhetorical comment. And sums up my position nicely. Shouting won't get you anywhere. Actually striving for something will. but your not so it's a lie
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Post by gdforever on Nov 17, 2011 20:25:37 GMT -5
How DARE people think that they are entitled to a government that properly monitors and oversees their countries financial sector! Riddle me this: Why do the supporters support Obama, and why does Obama support the protesters? I don't think adding what he has to the deficit is going to help matters. I don't think that his failed stimulus helped, either. But ok, whatever. Let the blind follow the blind. And still, no one has given any answer why The Tea Party were criticized when they held respectable protests and actually mounted to something whereas the media ignore the nonsense of OWS. My guess is that you all know there's a double standard at play here. Turn off Fox News? Please. How about you turn off all your liberal channels. New Poll: 63% disapprove of the movement, only 23% support it. My job here is done. I don't watch American news because it's shit for information. But I have access to it all so even I can see how disgusting and ill-informed that channel is. And the stimulus was initiated under the Bush Administration. So you can't blame that all on Obama. And the majority of the people don't understand it because the Right continue the project the same misinformed opinion YOU have. So congrats to you guys I could get an accurate look at even the Tea Party statement watching the liberal news channels. Wish I could say the same for the right-wing covering the left wing protest. Which you have proved. Interesting that you have NOTHING to say regarding the actual purpose of the protest including the lack of regulation causing economic meltdown and widespread recession. Instead you gripe about be inconvenienced. Who cares about the millions out of work because of the mismanagement of money by the financial sector you need to leave a bit earlier in the morning. Call the state troopers! And Obama supports the protesters because he also think the Congress has been delinquent in putting in place new regulations. And protests do not depend of popular opinion for legitimacy. Otherwise...the Tea Party had an approval rating of 20%. So how about we don't use polls.
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Post by masterplan200 on Nov 17, 2011 20:30:48 GMT -5
Riddle me this: Why do the supporters support Obama, and why does Obama support the protesters? I don't think adding what he has to the deficit is going to help matters. I don't think that his failed stimulus helped, either. But ok, whatever. Let the blind follow the blind. And still, no one has given any answer why The Tea Party were criticized when they held respectable protests and actually mounted to something whereas the media ignore the nonsense of OWS. My guess is that you all know there's a double standard at play here. Turn off Fox News? Please. How about you turn off all your liberal channels. New Poll: 63% disapprove of the movement, only 23% support it. My job here is done. I don't watch American news because it's shit for information. But I have access to it all so even I can see how disgusting and ill-informed that channel is. It can't be as bad as Sky news here, can it?
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Post by gdforever on Nov 17, 2011 20:35:37 GMT -5
I don't watch American news because it's shit for information. But I have access to it all so even I can see how disgusting and ill-informed that channel is. It can't be as bad as Sky news here, can it? Can't watch Sky news.
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Post by Rifles on Nov 17, 2011 20:55:02 GMT -5
Interesting that you have NOTHING to say regarding the actual purpose of the protest including the lack of regulation causing economic meltdown and widespread recession. He won't address the actual issue. He's just interested in putting down "liberals" and Obama because "conservatives" are so much smarter. It's all about slinging dirt and not actually getting anything done. Romney '12!!!!
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Post by manualex on Nov 17, 2011 21:04:32 GMT -5
NL4E, if we wanted to hear what Fox News thought about OWS, we would watch Fox News. Just so you know. All Americans should support protest in the face of injustice. ! it's a shame really. it's about time to fight the biggest terrorist organization in the world: the wall street. capitalism in it's modern way failed. people didn't learn anything from 2008. politics should get back the control otherwise greece will just be the beginning of a world wide collapse Capitalism and socialism have to be in balance if there is to much money in the hands of a few ones there is a fair chance of having a country with the problems of USA/UK if everyone has the same ammount of money then you would have something alike whatever happend to the USSR
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