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Post by gdforever on Nov 16, 2011 13:11:19 GMT -5
What did you SERIOUSLY expect? Oasis only did 52K with a much higher profile when DOYS came out. Plus we have already established that the delayed release probably hurt the sales.
Noel was never going to SMASH it in the US. It's a market that he is going to have to grow...and which may come to nothing regardless of how much effort they put in.
The US is a market geared towards the next big thing....which is never going to be a 44 year old singer-songwriter.
What he needs to do now is put in the effort to grow the audience. Maybe it'll work...maybe it won't. But frankly...the cards are stacked against him in this market.
He's doing the right things. Touring in major city centers to promote it's release, doing TV, and hopefully continues to work with radio station like KROQ and the Current to get the word out.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 16, 2011 13:15:19 GMT -5
What did you SERIOUSLY expect? Oasis only did 52K with a much higher profile when DOYS came out. Plus we have already established that the delayed release probably hurt the sales. Noel was never going to SMASH it in the US. It's a market that he is going to have to grow...and which may come to nothing regardless of how much ever they put in. The US is a market geared towards the next big thing....which is never going to be a 44 year old singer-songwriter. What he needs to do now is put in the effort to grow the audience. Maybe it'll work...maybe it won't. But frankly...the cards are stacked against him in this market. i've never said that i expected more. it's just horrible which kind of dreadful music hit the us charts instead of noel |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 16, 2011 13:58:39 GMT -5
What did you SERIOUSLY expect? Oasis only did 52K with a much higher profile when DOYS came out. Plus we have already established that the delayed release probably hurt the sales. Noel was never going to SMASH it in the US. It's a market that he is going to have to grow...and which may come to nothing regardless of how much ever they put in. The US is a market geared towards the next big thing....which is never going to be a 44 year old singer-songwriter. What he needs to do now is put in the effort to grow the audience. Maybe it'll work...maybe it won't. But frankly...the cards are stacked against him in this market. i've never said that i expected more. it's just horrible which kind of dreadful music hit the us charts instead of noel It is a pity. |
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Post by deasy on Nov 16, 2011 14:24:51 GMT -5
Where are ye getting #18? I see 28?
1 - - 28 * GALLAGHER*NOEL HIGH FLYING BIR NOEL GALLAGHER'S HIGH FLYING B 18704 999 389 19098
Translate for easy understanding:
Position: #28
This weeks sales: 18,704
Last weeks sales: 389
% Increase: 999%
Total Sales: 19,098
The reason there would have been sales last week I assume is due to shops selling the album early either by mistake or by not giving a fcuk.
That MTV report is wrong unfortunately!
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Post by deasy on Nov 16, 2011 14:25:45 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's solo debut, High Flying Birds, debuts at #28. This is about on par with the debut in March of the first album by Gallagher's former Oasis colleagues Liam Gallagher, Gem Archer and Andy Bell. Those musicians, under the band name Beady Eye, debuted at #31 with Different Gear, Still Speeding. (That album collapsed after its so-so debut and has sold just 29K copies to date.) Oasis reached its chart peak in August 1997 when Be Here Now debuted at #2.
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Post by mossy on Nov 16, 2011 14:29:51 GMT -5
Well it charted anyways!
Suprised Beady Eye sold 10k more. (Not because I think they're shit or anything, just that you could expect the same hardcore of fans to buy both albums). Guess the staggered release is to blame for the difference.
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Post by deasy on Nov 16, 2011 14:30:59 GMT -5
Well it charted anyways! Suprised Beady Eye sold 10k more. Guess the staggered release is to blame for the difference. That's their total, not their first week. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 16, 2011 14:33:58 GMT -5
Well it charted anyways! Suprised Beady Eye sold 10k more. (Not because I think they're shit or anything, just that you could expect the same hardcore of fans to buy both albums). Guess the staggered release is to blame for the difference. Beady Eye sold a bit over 13K first week. |
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Post by mossy on Nov 16, 2011 14:34:03 GMT -5
What was their first week?
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Post by mossy on Nov 16, 2011 14:34:50 GMT -5
Well it charted anyways! Suprised Beady Eye sold 10k more. (Not because I think they're shit or anything, just that you could expect the same hardcore of fans to buy both albums). Guess the staggered release is to blame for the difference. Beady Eye sold a bit over 13K first week. Oops, cheers. 13k + 18k first week sales. America, hang your head in shame  |
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Post by deasy on Nov 16, 2011 14:42:36 GMT -5
Hopefully Noel manages a few weeks in the top 200. Beady Eye managed only 2 weeks unfortunately, it went #31-168-Out
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Post by dion on Nov 16, 2011 14:57:15 GMT -5
Trends seem to be Noel doing just under half of what Oasis did and BDI just under a third first week sales wise?
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Post by jason1977 on Nov 16, 2011 15:59:36 GMT -5
Hes no chance in the us not matter what he puts out can see him as years go on him not touring the us
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 18, 2011 14:06:43 GMT -5
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Post by husky086 on Nov 18, 2011 16:07:48 GMT -5
I live in a major market area of the US (Boston), am a huge fan and I barely heard any advertising/radio play regarding the album. If I wasn't a fan, I may have missed the news completely. Same with the concert last week.
As the gig got closer, I saw a few tv commercials and an article/advert in the paper here or there, but otherwise advertising was almost non-existent.
What I'm getting at is that, yeah, there may be a generally lazy attitude in America towards Noel/music in general, but there could also have been more promotion, too. I heard TDOYM three times on the radio and IIHAG once so far. That's hardly going to rack up interest.
I think we're looking at the results of a poor economy coupled with the ease of downloading music illegally, moreso than a "who cares" attitude about Noel and the music... it's just too bad because these songs could really find an audience if more people heard them.
At least the gigs have been well attended and everyone seems to love the new stuff... I just wish there were better numbers. I feel like it's a never ending cycle with Oasis here: lack luster sales lead to less promotion, which lead to even LESS sales and interest, which leads to LESS promotion... and so on.
It makes it hard for those of us here in the US who are fans!
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Post by jason1977 on Nov 24, 2011 6:45:06 GMT -5
Noel down to # 112 this week  |
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Post by BloodyColdAssasin on Dec 2, 2011 9:41:47 GMT -5
And it ends. I didn't think Noel would be this bad. This sucks.
Chart run.
Noel Gallagher: 28-112-Out
Beady Eye: 31-168- Out
Beady Eye did a bit worse, but they both only stayed on the charts for 2 weeks.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 2, 2011 9:50:19 GMT -5
nobody in the us cares about the gallaghers anymore. and i don't care that they don't care. they've got the pothead miley cyrus and mr. kidpornstar justin bieber. the gallaghers are just out of that place |
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Post by gdforever on Dec 2, 2011 10:36:54 GMT -5
In the end Noel only sold about 5K more than BDI in this market.
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Post by caro on Dec 2, 2011 17:41:13 GMT -5
I'm just happy I can catch him on some TV shows and I bought his CD at Target!! Yeah Target!! And they had 3 copies! So to me it will be hard to get any more mainstream for Noel  |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Dec 2, 2011 17:43:27 GMT -5
In the end Noel only sold about 5K more than BDI in this market. it's been pretty even everywhere except for the UK btw i got my copy @ TarJay too. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 23:14:34 GMT -5
On one hand it's disappointing... On the other hand, at least we get to see him at smaller venues! Definitely prefer these theater gigs compared to arenas.
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