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Post by reevzieoasis on Oct 25, 2011 15:51:47 GMT -5
I think noel is such a little bullshitter the way he's spun all the reunion talk. First he came out saying he'd really love to do it but it wont happen cuz liam said it'd make him vomit. He said it over n over in every interview to try and hammer home to oasis fans liams the one at fault for the group never getting back together and he's the hero who'd love it to happen. Now liams said you know what if we can sort our shit out i'd do it as a one off, offering an olive branch noels being the big man saying no, like liams been begging him when it was his idea. Then he has the cheek to make the bitchy remark that liam has his permission to tour it on his own if he wants. Noels such a media darling holding court with all the press whilst that laugh at all his snidey bitchy remarks. I used to like him but cant listen to his bullshit anymore. Its boring. Liam has always come accross more honest. Noel has always spun the press and gave them his version of oasis and liam for the last 18 years. I think he's a knob. N his albums playsafe n only slightly above average
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Post by elchupacabra on Oct 25, 2011 15:58:41 GMT -5
Quite the little rant. Has somebody fed you after midnight?
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Post by headshrinker84 on Oct 25, 2011 16:00:31 GMT -5
Cool story bro.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 16:03:49 GMT -5
I think it's been suddenly proven that he's much, much more popular than Liam and wants to make him grovel for it.
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Post by cosmos on Oct 25, 2011 16:13:36 GMT -5
This is just a publicity battle. Noel and his new album will be more benefited if he supports his solo career than saying he´s going back to Oasis. As soon as Noel says he will be with Oasis in 2015, the album will be forgotten and the attention will be in Oasis. So I think he´s going to be back with Liam in 2015, but he´s not saying it yet. What for??? Nobody says so with 4 year in advance.
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Post by Rifles on Oct 25, 2011 16:20:18 GMT -5
This is just a publicity battle. Noel and his new album will be more benefited if he supports his solo career than saying he´s going back to Oasis. As soon as Noel says he will be with Oasis in 2015, the album will be forgotten and the attention will be in Oasis. So I think he´s going to be back with Liam in 2015, but he´s not saying it yet. What for??? Nobody says so with 4 year in advance. I think that sums it up nicely. My guess is Noel threw it out there and didn't expect Liam to respond positively so he's now having to back off a bit because his album/tour will get lost in the Oasis reunion crap if they both agree publicly to do it. I'm a bit annoyed that its already discussed so much considering they've only been split for 2 years. I'd rather focus on all the new music we're getting than worry about a reunion tour. |
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Post by GIMH on Oct 25, 2011 16:41:02 GMT -5
I think Liam outsmarted Noel on this tbh, and if you read between the lines Noel admitted as much on Wossy
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Post by fluff123 on Oct 27, 2011 4:58:13 GMT -5
All the spin and bullshit aside - the bottom line is Beady Eye will never, ever bring anything out as good as Noel - end of!  As for a reunion, I personally think it could happen. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 27, 2011 5:10:04 GMT -5
It's a bit of a rant but I agree with wath the OP said. Noel is constantly playing games with press, fans & Liam. I don't get the feeling he's genuine anymore at all.
It's starting to bother me more and more lately! The way he talks about us fans alone is a disgrace already! "I don't like playing the small venues cause then I can see the fans and they can interact with you" and "I changed to seated venues cause I don't want the fans anymore who are swaggering around with beer". I feel insulted when he says stuff like that! It's not all about YOU Noel! Music is all about the interaction between fans and the artist!
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Post by BlueJay on Oct 27, 2011 6:00:37 GMT -5
I'm a bit annoyed that its already discussed so much considering they've only been split for 2 years. I'd rather focus on all the new music we're getting than worry about a reunion tour. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 6:53:07 GMT -5
Its a big Publicity ploy, and its a good one because its working..
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Post by basiloasis1974 on Oct 27, 2011 7:29:44 GMT -5
It's all just a big game. A game that Noel plays extremely well. IMO, as a person and human being Liam is the better man, as a recording artist & media spinner, Noel's a master!
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Post by howsoonisnow on Oct 27, 2011 7:36:31 GMT -5
It's like when he complains about being the frontman. He's like "I was the discret guy on the left of the singer". It's ridiculous.
Liam has taken less and less importance in Oasis over the last 10 years because Noel wanted to be more and more important as a singer in the band. 2 songs on SOTSOG, then 3 on HC et the two following. Less and less of his songs for Liam to sing. A SOLO small tour (which was very good by the way) to promote the Stop the clocks best of. ", then 4, then 5 songs sung by him at gigs. So don't tell me he isn't happy to be the frontamn, he's getting used to it ok, but he's happy about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 8:03:55 GMT -5
yeah, Noel's bits about not wanting to be a front man ring hollow.
I think he basically admitted on Ross that Liam had turned the tables on the re-union thing, Noel was doing a big 'it's not my fault' ploy, but as soon as Liam mind-gamed him back he comes out at the Q Awards saying "I left for a reason and nothing's changed".
For Roses fans there's an analogy - after the split Squire was seen as the brains and the songwriter, and had a pretty big deal with the Seahorses (getting Liam to co-write, very clever!) and Brown was seen as talentless, couldn't sing, bit of a professional northerner etc.
Very similar to Noel and Liam really. And Brown's first album was a rushed affair.
Yet it was Ian Brown that worked his way up the Festival bills, kept the whole thing alive and built a very strong solo career on a succession of albums that just got better and better.
and Liam has five years on Noel... it's going to be an interesting ride!
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Post by dion on Oct 27, 2011 8:07:58 GMT -5
Yeah, but Liam isn't singing Oasis songs and Noel is a recognisable voice, unlike Squire when he started.
But I agree, for once Liams brutal honesty smashed Noel's more subtle media skills out the park.
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Post by howsoonisnow on Oct 27, 2011 8:59:18 GMT -5
And Liam seems sincere about the reunion tour. He doesn't say that he wants to reform the band, just do the reunion tour for MG birthday.
Noel came up with the idea and Liam thinks it's actually a good idea, the idea doesn't "make him vomit". Liam has find a way to put Noel in front of his contradiction in a very civilize way. The last time Noel was telling lies about Liam, Liam had to threaten to sue him to make him tell the truth...
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Post by cosmos on Oct 27, 2011 9:25:28 GMT -5
I think Liam has grown up, he´s always honest and more positive than Noel. Noel is enjoying his career right now, his album has just come out reaching no. 1 in the first week and he must be having a good time, but he is getting very away from the fans saying shit like -songbirdsally- said and saying he regrets he didn´t take a dacade off the write new albums after Knebworth, fuck that. Noel is getting old in a very bad way...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2011 9:49:29 GMT -5
How about waiting and seeing where we stand in a couple years time? I think it's foolish to jump to conclusions when we remain over 3 years away.
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Post by basiloasis1974 on Oct 27, 2011 9:59:52 GMT -5
yeah, Noel's bits about not wanting to be a front man ring hollow. I think he basically admitted on Ross that Liam had turned the tables on the re-union thing, Noel was doing a big 'it's not my fault' ploy, but as soon as Liam mind-gamed him back he comes out at the Q Awards saying "I left for a reason and nothing's changed". For Roses fans there's an analogy - after the split Squire was seen as the brains and the songwriter, and had a pretty big deal with the Seahorses (getting Liam to co-write, very clever!) and Brown was seen as talentless, couldn't sing, bit of a professional northerner etc. Very similar to Noel and Liam really. And Brown's first album was a rushed affair. Yet it was Ian Brown that worked his way up the Festival bills, kept the whole thing alive and built a very strong solo career on a succession of albums that just got better and better. and Liam has five years on Noel... it's going to be an interesting ride! Great post that. I concur. |
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Post by ctmazin on Oct 27, 2011 10:24:05 GMT -5
yeah, Noel's bits about not wanting to be a front man ring hollow. I think he basically admitted on Ross that Liam had turned the tables on the re-union thing, Noel was doing a big 'it's not my fault' ploy, but as soon as Liam mind-gamed him back he comes out at the Q Awards saying "I left for a reason and nothing's changed". For Roses fans there's an analogy - after the split Squire was seen as the brains and the songwriter, and had a pretty big deal with the Seahorses (getting Liam to co-write, very clever!) and Brown was seen as talentless, couldn't sing, bit of a professional northerner etc. Very similar to Noel and Liam really. And Brown's first album was a rushed affair. Yet it was Ian Brown that worked his way up the Festival bills, kept the whole thing alive and built a very strong solo career on a succession of albums that just got better and better. and Liam has five years on Noel... it's going to be an interesting ride! Liam should have an inherent advantage going forward with Beady Eye. Frontmen almost always outperform guitarists commercially in solo/subsequent careers, regardless of how much people view the guitarist as the "brains of the band". Examples. Robert Plant > Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger > Keith Richards (even though Mick released awful solo records and Keith released good ones), Ian Brown > John Squire, Morrissey > Johnny Marr, Jon Bon Jovi > Richie Sambora, Ozzy Osbourne > Tony Iommi, Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey are about even. |
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Post by gdforever on Oct 27, 2011 11:29:46 GMT -5
And Liam seems sincere about the reunion tour. He doesn't say that he wants to reform the band, just do the reunion tour for MG birthday. Noel came up with the idea and Liam thinks it's actually a good idea, the idea doesn't "make him vomit". Liam has find a way to put Noel in front of his contradiction in a very civilize way. The last time Noel was telling lies about Liam, Liam had to threaten to sue him to make him tell the truth...[/quote For gods sake guys. Noel did not lie. End of. Liam DID say that the idea of reuniting made him want to vomit. And I never heard Noel say that he wanted to reunite. HE isn't the one that has reversed his stance. He has gone on record as saying it's unfortunate that Oasis aren't together to tour WTSMG. The interviewers inevitably ask if a reunion is possible and he quoted an actual statement by Liam which was an emphatic and said that there is nothing more he need to add to that. He never said he'd be up for it. And for those that think that this is making Noel look bad. Don't make me laugh. All the stories are coming out sounding like Liam is asking to reunite and Noel is saying he isn't interested. I actually feel kind of bad for Liam. Because it makes him seem desperate. |
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Post by gdforever on Oct 27, 2011 11:36:37 GMT -5
He fumed: "Thinking about touring with Oasis again in 10 years makes me vomit. What would a reunion be good for? Why would you break up a band just to come back together and play old songs?
Liam February 2011
Amazing how when it's Liam that contradicts himself it's all good. But Noel doesn't even need to contradict himself and people go on how Liam is the only one speaking truth.
Liam doesn't spend even a second thinking. He is horribly unreliable and is even less consistent than Noel, which is saying something.
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Post by dion on Oct 27, 2011 11:38:52 GMT -5
When has Liam asked? He said he's up for it when asked about Noel's statement that it would be sad they couldn't. Now Noel looks like hes backtracking and as everyone wants it to happen it naturally makes Noel look like the bad guy.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 27, 2011 11:39:06 GMT -5
yeah, Noel's bits about not wanting to be a front man ring hollow. I think he basically admitted on Ross that Liam had turned the tables on the re-union thing, Noel was doing a big 'it's not my fault' ploy, but as soon as Liam mind-gamed him back he comes out at the Q Awards saying "I left for a reason and nothing's changed". For Roses fans there's an analogy - after the split Squire was seen as the brains and the songwriter, and had a pretty big deal with the Seahorses (getting Liam to co-write, very clever!) and Brown was seen as talentless, couldn't sing, bit of a professional northerner etc. Very similar to Noel and Liam really. And Brown's first album was a rushed affair. Yet it was Ian Brown that worked his way up the Festival bills, kept the whole thing alive and built a very strong solo career on a succession of albums that just got better and better. and Liam has five years on Noel... it's going to be an interesting ride! Liam should have an inherent advantage going forward with Beady Eye. Frontmen almost always outperform guitarists commercially in solo/subsequent careers, regardless of how much people view the guitarist as the "brains of the band". Examples. Robert Plant > Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger > Keith Richards (even though Mick released awful solo records and Keith released good ones), Ian Brown > John Squire, Morrissey > Johnny Marr, Jon Bon Jovi > Richie Sambora, Ozzy Osbourne > Tony Iommi, Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey are about even. I think Noel will pull the upset with your theory. Just like Clapton. Eric Clapton > Jack Bruce |
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Post by gdforever on Oct 27, 2011 11:42:12 GMT -5
yeah, Noel's bits about not wanting to be a front man ring hollow. I think he basically admitted on Ross that Liam had turned the tables on the re-union thing, Noel was doing a big 'it's not my fault' ploy, but as soon as Liam mind-gamed him back he comes out at the Q Awards saying "I left for a reason and nothing's changed". For Roses fans there's an analogy - after the split Squire was seen as the brains and the songwriter, and had a pretty big deal with the Seahorses (getting Liam to co-write, very clever!) and Brown was seen as talentless, couldn't sing, bit of a professional northerner etc. Very similar to Noel and Liam really. And Brown's first album was a rushed affair. Yet it was Ian Brown that worked his way up the Festival bills, kept the whole thing alive and built a very strong solo career on a succession of albums that just got better and better. and Liam has five years on Noel... it's going to be an interesting ride! Liam should have an inherent advantage going forward with Beady Eye. Frontmen almost always outperform guitarists commercially in solo/subsequent careers, regardless of how much people view the guitarist as the "brains of the band". Examples. Robert Plant > Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger > Keith Richards (even though Mick released awful solo records and Keith released good ones), Ian Brown > John Squire, Morrissey > Johnny Marr, Jon Bon Jovi > Richie Sambora, Ozzy Osbourne > Tony Iommi, Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey are about even. Noel is unique because he as sang lead in popular Oasis songs and was the mouthpiece and the main songwriter as didn't collaborate with the rest of the band. |
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