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Post by doggboy10 on Oct 11, 2011 15:06:47 GMT -5
Right after giving the album a good few days of listenings I feel I can give an honest unbiased view of the album, & I have to say that it is exactly what I expected Noel to come up with......a collection of songs, some great some not so....it doesn't feel like an album to me.
The high points are: aka...what a life - sublime song, possibly best of the year? If I had a gun - classic oasis era b'side sounding Record machine - another classic sounder, anthemic. Aka....broken arrow - nice laid back, reminds me of Tom petty for some reason? Noel's voice - matured nicely & carries the album pretty well.
The low points: A few songs that don't go anywhere & are a little boring - the 1st 2 and Jesus freaks are plodding music by numbers Noel would write in his sleep a few years back. Stop the clocks - a major disappointment for me, heralded as the best he's written? Gtfo & the ending is pure over indulgent noise. The production - not a fan of sardy' previous production to be fair and this at times feels far to clean & processed, Noel has said how he hated bhn cos of the over production but he can't help himself when it comes to chucking stuff on a song.
All in all a good album but far from the classic everyone expected him to make, it feels like a cross between the masterplan & sotsog. I'm not disappointed and will continue to enjoy this album for a long time but a lot of people (media, on here, in general) go over the top in praising/critiquing a body of work & bring personal viewpoints into the equation, here it for what it is a good solid oasis sounding album.....that any oasis fan will & should enjoy (same goes for beady eye's album).
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Post by thedon on Oct 11, 2011 15:15:56 GMT -5
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Post by cosmos on Oct 11, 2011 15:16:09 GMT -5
NOEL IS VICTIM OF HIS OWN BRILLIANCE...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 15:18:30 GMT -5
the man will never win.
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Post by doggboy10 on Oct 11, 2011 15:25:55 GMT -5
He has won - responsible for the golden era of oasis tracks that shaped a generation, sold millions, made millions.....he just hasn't made a classic solo album, good but not great.....and if you think it's a classic I suggest you expand your music library a bit.
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 11, 2011 15:30:18 GMT -5
it's a very good album. i don't care about reviews or what this album is sound like in the context of his discography. i like it, that's all what matters.
even if he brings out an album as good as morning glory, people would complain.
i love what he does. when i want a song that is as good as don't look back in anger i listen to don't look back in anger instead of moan about that he doesn't write a song that good
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Post by gobblegobble on Oct 11, 2011 15:30:51 GMT -5
Funny. I think Stop The Clocks and Broken Arrow are the best while What A Life and Stranded On The Wrong Beach are the worst. It just goes to show that this album has something for everyone.
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Post by doggboy10 on Oct 11, 2011 15:33:52 GMT -5
Funny. I think Stop The Clocks and Broken Arrow are the best while What A Life and Stranded On The Wrong Beach are the worst. It just goes to show that this album has something for everyone. Amen bro!, that's what music is all about......all that matters is the view of that one person listening at that time, fuck a review make your own mind up.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 15:34:00 GMT -5
Each to own, personally think it's a great album without doubt as do most on here and most who have reviewed, not everyone will be as keen, shame for those ppl who aren't feeling it could be a classic like the rest.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 11, 2011 15:35:16 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an "honest, unbiased" review. Reviews are biased by nature...
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 15:44:37 GMT -5
When ppl say an album is amazing and could be a classic doesn't mean they are not being honest & unbiased, ppl will truly believe it, and it's no surprise as in my honest & unbiased review this album is a fantastic album which could go down as one of the greats.
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Oct 11, 2011 15:46:12 GMT -5
Wow doggboy10 I almost fully agree. I like the album but the 8th wonder of the world praise on this site almost had me to scared to share my opinion. I keep seeing ALL OVER this site how EOTR was up in the 'top 4' of his songs of all time! Seriously?! The 1st 2 on the album, as you mentioned, sort of plod along. I also like the end of STC on the demo version better. The song that gets slagged the most is AKA WAL & I find that cranked in the car almost one of the best. Then you see the comparisons to DGSS. I can honestly say that FLW, TMS, WW & maybe TBGO or 3RC are more enjoyable than some of the lower points on this album. I fell in love w/ Oasis on DM. I guess I miss the 'rock' NME gives it an 8. Id rank it between 7.5-8.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 11, 2011 15:47:05 GMT -5
I miss the rock and huge guitars, the new versions of STC and RM are too mellow, but also I understand that Noel wanted something more sophisticated.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 15:57:55 GMT -5
Just think this album shows Noel has evolved much more since going solo, this album to me shows him being more confident then he's ever sounded. If he'd done a straight out rock album, would have been a bad idea, he's been and done it and moved onto more expansive music styles which I think is much better going fwd, fuck guitar solo's, or too many solos, this album straight to the point, love it.
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Post by jilliam on Oct 11, 2011 16:09:04 GMT -5
GREAT HONEST REVIEW. I don't agree on some of the songs you like/dislike, but in all the general consensus amongst the realist is that its an average album. In no way is it a bad album but, sure isn't in the TOP 5 of any Gallagher lp from 1994-today. Everyone's on a fuckin ecstasy pill with this lp, I cant wait for Noels masterpiece in a few years time and everyone will say HFB was at best an average lp.
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Post by ctmazin on Oct 11, 2011 16:15:49 GMT -5
Wow that is awesome how you've been able to overcome all of your biases and post an HONEST, UNBIASED REVIEW. Remarkable.
Dude-I grant you your opinions. You're well within your rights to love, hate or meh the record, but you are no more unbiased than anyone else on this forum.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 16:17:15 GMT -5
just because ppl are negative or not as enthused as others doesn't mean they are realists, could just mean those people are miserable or like Radiohead or both. The general consensus is this is a great album from a Noel fans forum, no better praise, minority think less which is a shame for them.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 16:21:13 GMT -5
Wow that is awesome how you've been able to overcome all of your biases and post an HONEST, UNBIASED REVIEW. Remarkable. Dude-I grant you your opinions. You're well within your rights to love, hate or meh the record, but you are no more unbiased than anyone else on this forum. Spot on, absolutely entitled to opinion, but it comes across as those few being negative are speaking truth whereas the majority off this board and reviews who say it's a great album aren't being real, same old for some, unless you are being negative in some way it's not true. Total bs. You have your opinion but don't make out those happy to be going overboard, some ppl just get enjoyment from life, some not.
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Post by ale2 on Oct 11, 2011 16:24:38 GMT -5
AKA What a Life is a good song....
The rest is just booring. The production isnt fresh and Noels voice without reverb effect is very mediocre. The album sounds like a bunch of forgotten Oasis b-sides rereleased.
Very disappointing! I hoped Noel would do something really good. Falling Down is a splendid song but he isnt close to that standard on this album.
After Beady Eyes album we knew that Oasis needs Noel. Now we know that Noel needs Oasis.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 16:30:54 GMT -5
AKA What a Life is a good song.... The rest is just booring. The production isnt fresh and Noels voice without reverb effect is very mediocre. The album sounds like a bunch of forgotten Oasis b-sides rereleased. Very disappointing! I hoped Noel would do something really good. Falling Down is a splendid song but he isnt close to that standard on this album. After Beady Eyes album we knew that Oasis needs Noel. Now we know that Noel needs Oasis. Haha, crazy talk, back to Radiohead for you, entitled to your op but my god are you sure you didn't put on a Killers album by mistake?!
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Post by ale2 on Oct 11, 2011 16:35:06 GMT -5
AKA What a Life is a good song.... The rest is just booring. The production isnt fresh and Noels voice without reverb effect is very mediocre. The album sounds like a bunch of forgotten Oasis b-sides rereleased. Very disappointing! I hoped Noel would do something really good. Falling Down is a splendid song but he isnt close to that standard on this album. After Beady Eyes album we knew that Oasis needs Noel. Now we know that Noel needs Oasis. Haha, crazy talk, back to Radiohead for you, entitled to your op but my god are you sure you didn't put on a Killers album by mistake?! I have been on every Oasis release since Def Maybe. I know when I hear a great album and this simply isnt. I have heard the shit you now say many times before. "Little James is an amazing song" bla bla bla... Well, I will try to be an accepting person but I know you will have a different opinion 1-2 years from now.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 16:38:46 GMT -5
How would you know what i would think?! Because you are negative means you lose out, the majority here are loving it so happy. Little James?! Erm ok.
Fine u don't think it's a great album, that's ur opinion, but most here and in rev's think it is, nice that it's had such a deserved positive response. Shame for you that you don't like, that's life.
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Post by ale2 on Oct 11, 2011 16:43:00 GMT -5
How would you know what i would think?! Because you are negative means you lose out, the majority here are loving it so happy. Little James?! Erm ok. Fine u don't think it's a great album, that's ur opinion, but most here and in rev's think it is, nice that it's had such a deserved positive response. Shame for you that you don't like, that's life. The majority of the Oasisfans have always loved every new album from Oasis/Liam/Noel at release. It was the same thing when SOTSOG was released just as an example. It takes at least one year before the community actually understands how good an album are.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 11, 2011 16:50:09 GMT -5
Haha, crazy talk, back to Radiohead for you, entitled to your op but my god are you sure you didn't put on a Killers album by mistake?! I have been on every Oasis release since Def Maybe. I know when I hear a great album and this simply isnt. I have heard the shit you now say many times before. "Little James is an amazing song" bla bla bla... Well, I will try to be an accepting person but I know you will have a different opinion 1-2 years from now. I know I certainly won't have a different opinion about this album 1-2 years from now. I will still love it. Perhaps you don't enjoy this album as much as the other Oasis albums because it's not really a rock 'n roll album? Because from a songwriting standpoint (which is the main basis that I enjoy music), this is a very strong collection of songs, and a very strong album.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Oct 11, 2011 16:51:45 GMT -5
How would you know what i would think?! Because you are negative means you lose out, the majority here are loving it so happy. Little James?! Erm ok. Fine u don't think it's a great album, that's ur opinion, but most here and in rev's think it is, nice that it's had such a deserved positive response. Shame for you that you don't like, that's life. The majority of the Oasisfans have always loved every new album from Oasis/Liam/Noel at release. It was the same thing when SOTSOG was released just as an example. It takes at least one year before the community actually understands how good an album are. So those being negative may need another yr then, just because someone is more negative doesn't mean they are being more honest is all I'm saying, this album really could be as good as majority of oasis & non-oasis fans are saying, there will always be those not keen, no one cares about that, but doesn't mean they are more truthful nevermind how many threads they post on saying same thing to convince themselves there part of a majority group. Fact is it's been very well received and that's great.
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