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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 21:13:32 GMT -5
Come on guys. Gas Panic, Shout it Out Loud, Who Feels Love, Sunday Morning Call, Go Let it Out, Roll it Over, SCYHO, Little by little, Hindu times, Force of nature are songs with air, space, long intervals, emotional, with interesting lead guitar, etc. These songs FLY!!!
Even PYMWYMI, I Can See a Liar, Full On, forces of nature at least have BLOOD in their teeth and DISTORTION.
When was the last time you got drunk and played around Oasis discography???
Put yer hands in yer hearts and ask yourselves: If you were to end up in a island alone with a superb audio system and booze, would you take with you SOTSOG and HC or NGHFBs and Chasing Yesterday??
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 15, 2015 21:15:42 GMT -5
Come on guys. Gas Panic, Shout it Out Loud, Who Feels Love, Sunday Morning Call, Go Let it Out, Roll it Over, SCYHO, Little by little, Hindu times, Force of nature are songs with air, space, long intervals, emotional, with interesting lead guitar, etc. These songs FLY!!! Even PYMWYMI, I Can See a Liar, Full On, forces of nature at least have BLOOD in their teeth and DISTORTION. When was the last time you got drunk and played around Oasis discography??? Put yer hands in yer hearts and ask yourselves: If you were to end up in a island alone with a superb audio system and booze, would you take with you SOTSOG and HC or NGHFBs and Chasing Yesterday?? 1000000% NGHFB and CY easily. Force of Nature???! you've got to be on the wind up here.
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 21:19:22 GMT -5
Come on guys. Gas Panic, Shout it Out Loud, Who Feels Love, Sunday Morning Call, Go Let it Out, Roll it Over, SCYHO, Little by little, Hindu times, Force of nature are songs with air, space, long intervals, emotional, with interesting lead guitar, etc. These songs FLY!!! Even PYMWYMI, I Can See a Liar, Full On, forces of nature at least have BLOOD in their teeth and DISTORTION. When was the last time you got drunk and played around Oasis discography??? Put yer hands in yer hearts and ask yourselves: If you were to end up in a island alone with a superb audio system and booze, would you take with you SOTSOG and HC or NGHFBs and Chasing Yesterday?? 1000000% NGHFB and CY easily. Force of Nature???! you've got to be on the wind up here. You like NGHFB and CY because the prior stuff was already written. If SOTSOG and HC were to be the latest output this forum would be nuts. Think it well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 21:21:23 GMT -5
Force Of Nature is a load of rubbish. To say it's better than anything on Chasing Yesterday must surely be a piss take.
In answer to your question, I would take SOTSOG and Chasing Yesterday.
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 21:22:22 GMT -5
Just Imagine, 2015 and we've got new songs like shout it out loud, gas panic, go let it out, hindu times, little by little, where did it all go wrong, the distortion rocknroll tunes, this forum would go nuts! nuts everywhere!
Imagine yourselves in year 2000 trying to accept, after DM WTSMG and BHN that "The Mexican" is a song worth of noel gallagher. Impossible, just impossible.
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 15, 2015 21:25:21 GMT -5
Just Imagine, 2015 and we've got new songs like shout it out loud, gas panic, go let it out, hindu times, little by little, where did it all go wrong, the distortion rocknroll tunes, this forum would go nuts! nuts everywhere! Imagine yourselves in year 2000 trying to accepting, after DM WTSMG and BHN that "The Mexican" is a song worth of noel gallagher. Impossible, just impossible. I totally disagree but hey, they're all songs written by the same genius so what does it matter?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 15, 2015 21:27:56 GMT -5
Still stand by this... time will tell. Why did you resurrect your comment/thread that no one gave a shit about first time round? That legit had me laughing. And at UGHF....oh dear.
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 21:37:51 GMT -5
Just Imagine, 2015 and we've got new songs like shout it out loud, gas panic, go let it out, hindu times, little by little, where did it all go wrong, the distortion rocknroll tunes, this forum would go nuts! nuts everywhere! Imagine yourselves in year 2000 trying to accepting, after DM WTSMG and BHN that "The Mexican" is a song worth of noel gallagher. Impossible, just impossible. First of ll, you're cheating by lumping all of those songs together. We never got them all at once. We got The Hindu Times and Little By Little in 2002 off of Heathen Chemistry. That is all. Two of OAsis' worst singles of all. We also got seven abominations of humankind along with them, all far worse crimes against humanity than The Mexican. You're conveniently ignoring those. Come on both albums are just 2 years apart. Lump together NGHFBs and CY and?? At the end of the day what has has more spark, spice, life, class, energy, bravado, etc...
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 21:49:20 GMT -5
Come on both albums are just 2 years apart. Lump together NGHFBs and CY and?? At the end of the day what has has more spark, spice, life, class, energy, bravado, etc... We are just not on the same page. This is not even an argument for me. Chasing Yesterday beats Heathen Chemistry silly with a sack of pennies and pisses in its mouth for good measure. Same for SOTSOG, although it shows it a bit more respect. Agree to disagree. Heading to bed. Hope you go to bed humming Force of Nature or I Can See A Liar! Nanananana Nanana naa na naaaaaa
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Post by Manualex on Feb 15, 2015 21:53:35 GMT -5
We are just not on the same page. This is not even an argument for me. Chasing Yesterday beats Heathen Chemistry silly with a sack of pennies and pisses in its mouth for good measure. Same for SOTSOG, although it shows it a bit more respect. Agree to disagree. Heading to bed. Hope you go to bed humming Force of Nature or I Can See A Liar![/ Batman!
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 21:57:00 GMT -5
I'd compare the right stuff with gas panic, you know we can't go back with hindu times, the dying of the light with SCYHO, ballad of the mighty with who feels love... and im missin roll it over, go let it out, full on... Sorry, you lost me when you suggested Who Feels Love is better than Ballad of the Mighty I. Seriously now, come on. And your appraisal of Force of Nature, don't get me started. Everyone hated it as soon as it came out. And Go Let It Out is just a weak rehash of Fade In-Out. And The Hindu Times is just boring, totally sucks compared to the demo. Man, you're just digging a hole for yourself here!
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Post by stevemeister on Feb 15, 2015 21:59:52 GMT -5
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Post by gdforever on Feb 15, 2015 22:00:14 GMT -5
I'd compare the right stuff with gas panic, you know we can't go back with hindu times, the dying of the light with SCYHO, ballad of the mighty with who feels love... and im missin roll it over, go let it out, full on... Well. Those specific Examples. Gas Panic over The Right Stuff. TDOTL over SCYHO The Ballad of the Mighty Eye BY A MILE (not even a comparison) I'd take Riverman over Go Let it Out I'd take You Know We Can't Go Back over Full On or The Hindu Times Roll It Over I love though
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 22:02:40 GMT -5
I'd compare the right stuff with gas panic, you know we can't go back with hindu times, the dying of the light with SCYHO, ballad of the mighty with who feels love... and im missin roll it over, go let it out, full on... Sorry, you lost me when you suggested Who Feels Love is better than Ballad of the Mighty I. Seriously now, come on. Don't you feel love?
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Post by Manualex on Feb 15, 2015 22:04:30 GMT -5
I'd compare the right stuff with gas panic, you know we can't go back with hindu times, the dying of the light with SCYHO, ballad of the mighty with who feels love... and im missin roll it over, go let it out, full on... Sorry, you lost me when you suggested Who Feels Love is better than Ballad of the Mighty I. Seriously now, come on. And your appraisal of Force of Nature, don't get me started. Everyone hated it as soon as it came out. And Go Let It Out is just a weak rehash of Fade In-Out. And The Hindu Times is just boring, totally sucks compared to the demo. Man, you're just digging a hole for yourself here! I do love More Who Feels Love? More than Mighty I, but thats just the exception not the rule.
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 22:05:09 GMT -5
I can understand someone thinking that Noel's new stuff doesn't measure up to the real inner-circle classics on MG and DM. But to say that the new stuff doesn't measure up to SCYHO or Go Let It Out or Little By Little or Let There Be Love is utterly baffling. To me, those songs are far more generic and workmanlike. Even songs like Lyla and Shock of The Lightning, which are great, are less awesome songs than songs that get over through a combination of Noel's gifts as an arranger, echoes of past glories and Liam's voice. The only songs from 1999-2008 that I think showcase Noel's full range of songwriting skills are Gas Panic, Shout It Out Loud and The Importance of Being Idle. Maybe Falling Down too. His new stuff, and a handful of songs off his debut, is effortless and fresh and beautiful. The chord sequence on The Girl With The XRay Eyes, for example, is pure artistry, the work of a songwriter who is in the zone. The new stuff he makes at 43 or 47 will never carry the same cultural weight as the stuff he made when he was 27. Fine. Name me one artist whose work does. Just one. Every word you say rings true - apart from the Chasing Yesterday stuff which I've yet to hear. Songs like Go Let It Out and Lyla are only half decent because of Liam's vocal performance in my opinion.
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 22:05:48 GMT -5
I'd compare the right stuff with gas panic, you know we can't go back with hindu times, the dying of the light with SCYHO, ballad of the mighty with who feels love... and im missin roll it over, go let it out, full on... Sorry, you lost me when you suggested Who Feels Love is better than Ballad of the Mighty I. Seriously now, come on. And your appraisal of Force of Nature, don't get me started. Everyone hated it as soon as it came out. And Go Let It Out is just a weak rehash of Fade In-Out. And The Hindu Times is just boring, totally sucks compared to the demo. Man, you're just digging a hole for yourself here! Dude, I reviewed CY in an excellent way, as you can see in the reviews thread. I just happen to enjoy Oasis too much. When did this become a radiohead forum? ?
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 22:14:43 GMT -5
Sorry, you lost me when you suggested Who Feels Love is better than Ballad of the Mighty I. Seriously now, come on. And your appraisal of Force of Nature, don't get me started. Everyone hated it as soon as it came out. And Go Let It Out is just a weak rehash of Fade In-Out. And The Hindu Times is just boring, totally sucks compared to the demo. Man, you're just digging a hole for yourself here! Dude, I reviewed CY in an excellent way, as you can see in the reviews thread. I just happen to enjoy Oasis too much. When did this become a radiohead forum? ? Just a bit of tongue in cheek mate that's all, but the melody of Who Feels Love is pretty tiresome in my opinion. It tries to be very psychedelic but comes off as very contrived and forced - no surprise as Noel didn't do any psychedelic drugs. On the last Oasis album I blamed Liam, Andy and Gem for the Beatles rip off tracks, but Noel matched them here with his biggest Beatles rehash ever. As I said before, I love The Beatles and I just find it very lazy and uninspired to take from them. Gas Panic IS psychedelic but that's one of the great songs from Noel because the mood is sinister and it is representative of the mood Noel was in, so it feels natural.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 15, 2015 22:15:04 GMT -5
Just Imagine, 2015 and we've got new songs like shout it out loud, gas panic, go let it out, hindu times, little by little, where did it all go wrong, the distortion rocknroll tunes, this forum would go nuts! nuts everywhere! Imagine yourselves in year 2000 trying to accept, after DM WTSMG and BHN that "The Mexican" is a song worth of noel gallagher. Impossible, just impossible. You comparing the best of Noel from 2 albums to the weakest song (although some love it) off CY...and notice you could only come up with one vs 5 songs that apparently you rate highly? And I'd still take it over GLIO, The Hindu Times, and Where Did it All go Wrong. You are doing exactly what you criticized people of doing when they compared the strongest of CY to the weakest of HC. Try comparing the weakest to the weakest. Or the strongest to the Strongest. I'd take The Mexican over FON, PYMWYMI, or ICSAL any day. I'd take Riverman on an album with anything Noel had written in the last 15 years. And it would stand up proudly next to any of those best. Same with YKWCGB and TDOTL. If Noel released HC and SOTSOG now...we'd think there were glimmers of brilliance but overall lacking in inspiration I think. Why? Because after 15 years to reflect...that is the general opinion of them. You can argue that people are overrating CY but I don't think it's valid to argue that people are underrating SOTSOG and HC.
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Post by squire on Feb 15, 2015 22:16:12 GMT -5
I just happen to enjoy Oasis too much. When did this become a radiohead forum? ? Actually it's a NGHFB forum. Unfortunately it seems you've already decided that you won't accept anything that isn't Oasis so there's probably no point in arguing with you. Btw: to answer your earlier question I'd take SOTSOG and CY, the two better albums of those 4. Cheers.
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Feb 15, 2015 22:27:15 GMT -5
This album just proves he can be any songwriter he fucking wants to be... The fact is he doesn't have to write songs like Champagne Supernova, Wonderwall, etc. He's already accomplished that shit. Move on and appreciate what's in front of you.
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 15, 2015 22:32:34 GMT -5
I just happen to enjoy Oasis too much. When did this become a radiohead forum? ? Actually it's a NGHFB forum. Unfortunately it seems you've already decided that you won't accept anything that isn't Oasis so there's probably no point in arguing with you. Btw: to answer your earlier question I'd take SOTSOG and CY, the two better albums of those 4. Cheers. You think I won't accept anything that's not oasis because you deleted the "Dude, I reviewed CY in an excellent way, as you can see in the reviews thread." in the quote. It's ok, I enjoy SOTSOG and HC even more than CY. Because my subjective preferences lean towards distortion, air, spice, singalong, size, lead guitar, strenght, bravado, etc. To summar, everything that made oasis oasis. And i don't quite see it in NGHFBs thaaat much. But I like it anyway. It's a matter of personal preferences. Oasisesque preferences.
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 22:59:53 GMT -5
Actually it's a NGHFB forum. Unfortunately it seems you've already decided that you won't accept anything that isn't Oasis so there's probably no point in arguing with you. Btw: to answer your earlier question I'd take SOTSOG and CY, the two better albums of those 4. Cheers. You think I won't accept anything that's not oasis because you deleted the "Dude, I reviewed CY in an excellent way, as you can see in the reviews thread." in the quote. It's ok, I enjoy SOTSOG and HC even more than CY. Because my subjective preferences lean towards distortion, air, spice, singalong, size, lead guitar, strenght, bravado, etc. To summar, everything that made oasis oasis. And i don't quite see it in NGHFBs thaaat much. But I like it anyway. It's a matter of personal preferences. Oasisesque preferences. The appeal of Heathen Chemistry is that it is straightforward no nonsense tunes. But I don't know, there's someone about that period of Noel's writing that just lacks bite for me - and that includes the upcoming Revolution Song. There is something inexplicable but gaping missing from them and I can't put my finger on it. And I do think Liam's vocals cover up the inadequacies of many of his tunes from that era. Heck, I think Liam singing Force of Nature may even warrant it as half decent.... just maybe! But ever since 2005, I think Noel has been in a rich vein of form, accepting of course that he's never going to write another Live Forever (because that top form of songwriting is rare in music history). Has he written any truly bad tunes? Of course he has his weaker ones, but I'm struggling to think of one that is genuinely just poor.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 15, 2015 23:02:31 GMT -5
You think I won't accept anything that's not oasis because you deleted the "Dude, I reviewed CY in an excellent way, as you can see in the reviews thread." in the quote. It's ok, I enjoy SOTSOG and HC even more than CY. Because my subjective preferences lean towards distortion, air, spice, singalong, size, lead guitar, strenght, bravado, etc. To summar, everything that made oasis oasis. And i don't quite see it in NGHFBs thaaat much. But I like it anyway. It's a matter of personal preferences. Oasisesque preferences. The appeal of Heathen Chemistry is that it is straightforward no nonsense tunes. But I don't know, there's someone about that period of Noel's writing that just lacks bite for me - and that includes the upcoming Revolution Song. There is something inexplicable but gaping missing from them and I can't put my finger on it. And I do think Liam's vocals cover up the inadequacies of many of his tunes from that era. Heck, I think Liam singing Force of Nature may even warrant it as half decent.... just maybe! But ever since 2005, I think Noel has been in a rich vein of form, accepting of course that he's never going to write another Live Forever (because that top form of songwriting is rare in music history). Has he written any truly bad tunes? Of course he has his weaker ones, but I'm struggling to think of one that is genuinely just poor. Sitting here in silence on my own
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 15, 2015 23:16:04 GMT -5
I think UGHF has just simply lost it.
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