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Post by BlueJay on Oct 5, 2011 2:13:06 GMT -5
Judging by the 'If I Had a Gun' sample mix by Amorphous Androgynous, this second album will be further out and more sophisticated than he's ever gone, but I have a feeling he will be shocked by the album's commercial viablity.
It would be lucky to match sales of DGSS, and those - by modern chart standards - were rather dissapointing. What is Noel hoping to achieve with this? He's never been one for the Nick Cave/Thom Yorke approach to albums, he's always been very commerically based and mainstream.
I've never heard of any other artist suddenly become avant garde at the age of 44, Sir Noel is in for a shock. But I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by manualex on Oct 5, 2011 2:18:11 GMT -5
It would be great to have some cult album related to NG and i think we are aproaching to the release of it
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 5, 2011 2:19:10 GMT -5
he's long enough in the business. he did it for fun and i think all the oasis fans will buy it anyway, so it won't be a disaster
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Post by tiorio on Oct 5, 2011 2:36:03 GMT -5
Always remember that 90% of the things that go wrong commercially, books, movies, music discs, etc.. etc.., in general, are wonderful, because they do not reflect the tastes of the masses, who follow only the fashion of the moment.
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Post by revol on Oct 5, 2011 2:51:25 GMT -5
Always remember that 90% of the things that go wrong commercially, books, movies, music discs, etc.. etc.., in general, are wonderful, because they do not reflect the tastes of the masses, who follow only the fashion of the moment. ...or go wrong commerically , because they're shit. Besides, Noel has never followed fashion, he fucking dictated it!
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Post by cheerfuljamie on Oct 5, 2011 3:04:20 GMT -5
I don't think it's going to be as out there as we are expecting. I hope it is though & if the masses don't like it then it will probably be brilliant. I am looking forward to this one more than NGHFB & I chomping at the bit to hear that.
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Post by mossy on Oct 5, 2011 3:06:41 GMT -5
Pure speculation until we hear it. The radio edit of the 17 minute Record Machine (Space Monkey swallows a tab and then orbits infinity remix feat. pharrel) might be a monster radio hit driving sales of the album...
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Post by psj3809 on Oct 5, 2011 3:15:03 GMT -5
Exactly, how anyone can say it'll be a massive flop because theyve heard 30 secs of one song is a joke.
Lets wait until nearer the time, yeah i'm a bit nervous about that album but been proved wrong many times in the past. The Beady Eye album was far better than i thought it would be.
Sure Noel will prove many people wrong.
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Post by anais on Oct 5, 2011 3:26:41 GMT -5
Blade Runner was a commercial disaster beacuse nobody understood it and now it is one of the best science-fcition movies ever made... AA album might be Noel´s Blade Runner But despite everything Noel says about weirdness of that recording process, I don´t thnik he would let AA to destroy his vision...It will be Noel´s songs and that means quality, no matter who mixes it...¨ And for the record, he was always little bit avant garde
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 3:29:49 GMT -5
It won't sell many, thats a fact, but Noel knows this. At least it will filter out some of the narrow-minded folk with shallow music tastes.
When the album comes out I shall take a break from this forum as I simply cannot be arsed to read what will simply be argument after argument about it.
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 5, 2011 4:17:16 GMT -5
1) Noel Gallagher´s music is always far more comercial than Liam´s, and i don´t think his AA album is gonna be suddenly some kind of obscure cult thing 2) Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon is strange and dark psychedellic rock. It´s also one of the most popular rock albums ever
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 5, 2011 4:26:50 GMT -5
2) Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon is strange and dark psychedellic rock. It´s also one of the most popular rock albums ever dark side of the moon sold 45 million copies. it's one of the best albums of all time. nevertheless it isn't an album for the mass
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 5, 2011 4:35:25 GMT -5
2) Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon is strange and dark psychedellic rock. It´s also one of the most popular rock albums ever dark side of the moon sold 45 million copies. it's one of the best albums of all time. nevertheless it isn't an album for the mass There´s no reason Noel´s album can be the same (Highly unlikely, but, why has it to be a commercial disaster?)
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Oct 5, 2011 4:37:22 GMT -5
I would actually be happy if Beady Eye's second album outsold this one.
(Means we can expect two class albums)
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Post by Tom on Oct 5, 2011 4:47:07 GMT -5
1) Noel Gallagher´s music is always far more comercial than Liam´s Hahahaha what? Why? I can't believe the thread maker already has dismissed the AA album's commercial value, you and me have NO FUCKING IDEA what it's gonna sound like. All it takes for an album to become big is one hit single nowadays. Also, Paul Weller released a "weird" and "experimental" album at 49 who not only gave him great reviews, it also landed at number one in the charts and breathed new life into his chareer, taking a leap away from the dadrock he'd locked himself into.
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 5, 2011 4:51:13 GMT -5
1) Noel Gallagher´s music is always far more comercial than Liam´s Hahahaha what? Why? Take a look in the charts position of Noel written songs and Liam written songs. There you have the answer.
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 5, 2011 5:15:55 GMT -5
Noel's albums will sell anyways. No matter what he puts on it. It's almost impossible for Noel to have an album that would be a commercial disaster.
And to say Beady Eye's album was a commercial disaster is a bit of an overstatement as well. It was n°3 in the UK after Adele who has been on n°1 for almost a whole fucking year (or so it seems) and Jessie J. It was the best selling n°3 album in ten years. And in Japan in even got to n°1. It wasn't a commercial disaster at all.
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Post by downer on Oct 5, 2011 6:06:57 GMT -5
Blade Runner was a commercial disaster beacuse nobody understood it and now it is one of the best science-fcition movies ever made... AA album might be Noel´s Blade Runner i hope not, blade runner is borring as shit, i hope noels album will be more like the Predator, you can play it over and over again and never get bored of it.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 5, 2011 7:17:52 GMT -5
Blade Runner was a commercial disaster beacuse nobody understood it and now it is one of the best science-fcition movies ever made... AA album might be Noel´s Blade Runner i hope not, blade runner is borring as shit, i hope noels album will be more like the Predator, you can play it over and over again and never get bored of it. Well, in Noel's words, "Blade Runner is Radiohead. Star Wars is Oasis."
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Post by macashakermaker on Oct 5, 2011 8:09:26 GMT -5
Could not give a flying fuck if it sells fuck all as long as its good and i have high expectations for it, want it to be as fucking far out as possible
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 8:17:38 GMT -5
I think it will do the opposite of of your hypothesis. The album will feel even more fresh after years of Noel's style being very calculated by listeners. The AA album will touch a fan base that normally doesn't give a fuck about Noel music. The usual fans will still pick it up out of support for the Chief anyhow. He'll be fine, not that he cares.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 8:26:33 GMT -5
Everyone involved knows the AA album is Noel indulging himself. Nobody expects a commercial hit.
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Post by mossy on Oct 5, 2011 8:35:26 GMT -5
When I said I didn't buy any of the Beady Eye singles because I dont have a record player, I recall someone telling me I should've bought them anyway to stick on my wall...
So I'm sure there're plenty of die-hard Oasis fans who will buy this album - even if they hate it ;-)
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Post by Tom on Oct 5, 2011 8:47:46 GMT -5
Take a look in the charts position of Noel written songs and Liam written songs. There you have the answer. I thought you meant commercial as in the sense of how Kings of Leon is more commercial than Radiohead for example. Like, The Roller is probably a more commercial song than The Death Of You And Me even though the latter one did better in the charts.
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Post by J.B on Oct 5, 2011 9:10:35 GMT -5
So he shouldn't release an album that he enjoyed making and wanted to make because it might not sell that well?
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