jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Sept 6, 2011 11:05:37 GMT -5
I know I'm jumping the gun but I feel I have kinda ruined my enjoyment of the current album due to listening to so many soundchecks, demos and half arsed finished tunes, built my hopes up that the finished versions would be so much better even though I actually love them. So the AA album will be full of songs that are NEW and with Noel now realising his soundchecks are compromised he wont be letting any 'cats out of the bag' I have no doubt now that RM and Stc will be exactly what we've already heard. Thoughts?
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Post by wooboos on Sept 6, 2011 11:10:16 GMT -5
i agree essentially. I dont expected anything to different from STC and RM, and i dont think noel will be banging out the new tunes out in the soundchecks.
with regard the AA album, should all be new to our ears, maybe some familiar titles in there. Much more interested to hear that one than the sardyone
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Post by deasy on Sept 6, 2011 11:13:59 GMT -5
Noel comparing the AA album to Dark Side Of The Moon makes me extremely moist  |
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Post by Rifles on Sept 6, 2011 11:26:41 GMT -5
Agreed as well and you can see it across the forum. Everyone built up their own ideas for the sound check songs and disappointment abounds after hearing the finished products. It's going to be exciting to hear the few unheard tracks for the first time with no preconceived ideas.
I feel like the sound check of IIHAG hurt my initial impressions of the song, but even now I'm not totally blown away by it like some people. I mean the melody is fantastic, but the production doesn't really highlight it. I hate saying that because I'm sick of everyone saying what should be added to the songs and all that - arm-chair producers as someone said.
I'm going to do everything I can to resist listening to the preview clips whenever they surface. The only ones I might listen to are STC and RM just to see if I can hear any obvious differences to the demo versions.
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Post by iwantmore on Sept 6, 2011 11:36:30 GMT -5
You guys are just can't be pleased. The way I view this album is kind of like a batting order in cricket. He's got his best fucking batters in and so what if you've seen them hit a couple of shots in the nets? It's about the album. Noel has cherry-picked what should be a classic fucking album by nitpicking his best tracks.
No-one made you listen to the sound checks over and over. I know I did, but I got goosebumps when I heard IIHAG because I know that the average fucker hasn't heard the soundchecks and is gonna be like HOLY SHIT, TUUNE. So view the album as like a 'The Chief is Back' kind of thing for the world, not just the Oasis-fanatics. Fuck me, if he wanted to please just the Oasis fans, he'd have let us hear Liam singing DLBIA on a b-side somewhere, released c'mon its alright (might be on the AA album).
NGHFB is going to be suuuuuch a solid album that people will go 'holy shit....Noel defs can still bring it'. Which is what its all about.
Fuck man, this album is pretty much the only thing keeping me going atm, life is pretty ordinary so thank God for NGHFB.
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Post by songbirdsally on Sept 6, 2011 11:37:30 GMT -5
I hope he drops it without a warning, like Radiohead did. Imagine what it must be like to listen to an album in full, without having heard anything of it yet. Would be amazing |
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Post by caats19 on Sept 6, 2011 11:50:30 GMT -5
Agreed as well and you can see it across the forum. Everyone built up their own ideas for the sound check songs and disappointment abounds after hearing the finished products. which is hilarious to me because all those sound checks are terribly recorded acoustic numbers. they sound awful and people are saying they were better. when there was NOTHING on them in addition to guitar except static. |
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Post by J.B on Sept 6, 2011 11:54:24 GMT -5
Agreed as well and you can see it across the forum. Everyone built up their own ideas for the sound check songs and disappointment abounds after hearing the finished products. It's going to be exciting to hear the few unheard tracks for the first time with no preconceived ideas. Noel played DLBIA for the first time in 1994. Had we lived in a world of Internet forums, Youtube etc. then people would slag off the studio version of DLBIA for being soulless and too different. Probably best not to take notice. |
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Post by Rifles on Sept 6, 2011 12:14:40 GMT -5
which is hilarious to me because all those sound checks are terribly recorded acoustic numbers. they sound awful and people are saying they were better. when there was NOTHING on them in addition to guitar except static. Understandable though, is it not? The quality of the recording was shit, but you could plainly hear the melody, which most everyone agrees is really good. It's natural for fans to get excited when hearing new material like that. There's also an added element in the fact that we weren't supposed to hear that. Secrets are always more interesting. The fact that we have somewhere to discuss it and get a bunch of different opinions also changes our perception even if we don't realize it. Just a product of the times I suppose. I wonder how different people might feel about the music if they just bought it and listened all alone like we used to back in the day. Would there be a difference? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 13:21:41 GMT -5
it'll be an interesting album.. alot of people will hate it and never listen to it again, and some will think its a masterpiece. from the moment Noel bigged them up i thought a colabaration may be on the cards and the idea intrigues me. should be a good listen.
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Post by alwaysnow on Sept 6, 2011 13:37:49 GMT -5
I hope he drops it without a warning, like Radiohead did. Imagine what it must be like to listen to an album in full, without having heard anything of it yet. Would be amazing I agree, that would be great. I don't have enough will to hold me from listening to singles, previews, snippets, etc. before the album comes out. |
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Post by BEng on Sept 6, 2011 13:38:31 GMT -5
My biggest concern is, that he's going to "waste" potential brilliant songs. That he's going to write some amazing tunes, but "waste" it by some flower-power high-trippin' remix-production.
The AA remix of falling down is cool, but I really don't want an all album like that.
I just hope it's listenable. Experimental isn't a problem to me, but it still has to remain "Noel Gallagher". The AA remix of falling down isn't Noel Gallagher anymore...
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Sept 6, 2011 13:41:07 GMT -5
My biggest concern is, that he's going to "waste" potential brilliant songs. That he's going to write some amazing tunes, but "waste" it by some flower-power high-trippin' remix-production. The AA remix of falling down is cool, but I really don't want an all album like that. I just hope it's listenable. Experimental isn't a problem to me, but it still has to remain "Noel Gallagher". The AA remix of falling down isn't Noel Gallagher anymore... Couldn't agree more! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 6, 2011 13:53:45 GMT -5
Remember AA's work on Falling Down was just a remix. This time around is more of a collaboration of ideas and Noel is there personally recording with the duo. I expect it to be more straight forward than a collection of wacked 10 minute plus songs where Noel is barely relevant. Granted its going to be pretty far out still and a lot of people will be turned off I'd imagine. I personally can't wait to hear it.
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Post by deasy on Sept 6, 2011 14:02:40 GMT -5
The people that bash Radiohead on this forum will be confused when this album comes out
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Post by start at the end on Sept 6, 2011 14:02:56 GMT -5
Agreed as well and you can see it across the forum. Everyone built up their own ideas for the sound check songs and disappointment abounds after hearing the finished products. It's going to be exciting to hear the few unheard tracks for the first time with no preconceived ideas. I feel like the sound check of IIHAG hurt my initial impressions of the song, but even now I'm not totally blown away by it like some people. I mean the melody is fantastic, but the production doesn't really highlight it. I hate saying that because I'm sick of everyone saying what should be added to the songs and all that - arm-chair producers as someone said. I'm going to do everything I can to resist listening to the preview clips whenever they surface. The only ones I might listen to are STC and RM just to see if I can hear any obvious differences to the demo versions. Yeah that was this dipshit, here. I believe I referred to them as "internet producers" in a foul mood of mine. My only real point was that it (the criticism) comes across many times as if they (Noel, Sardy, others) are NOT trying and doing quite a bit of shit before they decide on going in a certain direction. It's (i-net producing) actually WORSE than monday morning quarterbacking in that you DON'T know what else went on (never mind how it actually SOUNDED), as opposed to the television where you see every play that's called and its result. To me, it's all worthless, but I suppose it keeps some entertained. I for one just enjoy the final product and don't play pointless guessing games. to each, his own. |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Sept 6, 2011 14:13:54 GMT -5
I agree with the original post. However, its only really If I Had A Gun that sounds a bit disappointing compared to the soundcheck. I wasn't really fussed about Everybody's on the Run but the instrumental/strings version sounds excellent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 14:20:55 GMT -5
The people that bash Radiohead on this forum will be confused when this album comes out i dont think you've ever posted something and ive disagreed.. K+ |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 6, 2011 14:34:44 GMT -5
Agreed as well and you can see it across the forum. Everyone built up their own ideas for the sound check songs and disappointment abounds after hearing the finished products. It's going to be exciting to hear the few unheard tracks for the first time with no preconceived ideas. Noel played DLBIA for the first time in 1994. Had we lived in a world of Internet forums, Youtube etc. then people would slag off the studio version of DLBIA for being soulless and too different. Probably best not to take notice. If i'm not mistaken DLBIA was written shortly before MG sessions, so early 95... Other than that i agree with you. That's why i hardly listened to the soundchecks. edit: from wikipedia (but it's true) Noel was so excited of the potential of the song when he first wrote it that he used an acoustic set to perform a work-in-progress version, without the second verse and a few other slight lyrical differences, at an Oasis concert at the Sheffield Arena on 22 April 1995. He said before playing that he'd only written it the previous Tuesday (18 April 1995) and that he didn't even have a title for it yet. |
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Post by Cast on Sept 6, 2011 14:41:47 GMT -5
DLBIA was first played on 1995.04.22 in Sheffield Arena which was their first arena gig and tony's last gig in the band, but I would argue that if the internet was around then people would be upset with DLBIA's production on WTSMG. People tend to forget that WTSMG wasn't a huge hit at first. some people were turned away from the softer/poppy production. I personally love IIHAG and I think live versions of the song will please the people who love the soundcheck version of the tune.
The AA album all I got to say is that it will go right over some of yalls heads or in a more politically correct sense it won't be some peoples cup of tea but I can not wait for it. If AKA...WAL is dividing people then I cant even imagine what its gonna be like when the AA album is released it'll be like a civil war even though we kinda have that with this team noel and liam bullshit.
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Post by CF83 on Sept 6, 2011 15:34:34 GMT -5
What exactly is it about the soundcheck version of IIHAG that people prefer over the studio version? It's half the song, shit quality, and you can't hear the words properly. It's just a guitar and Noel singing live, recorded on a fucking mobile phone or something. I don't understand how people can compare them or think it's "better" in any way. Also, agree with this 100%: The AA album all I got to say is that it will go right over some of yalls heads or in a more politically correct sense it won't be some peoples cup of tea but I can not wait for it. If AKA...WAL is dividing people then I cant even imagine what its gonna be like when the AA is released it'll be like a civil war even though we kinda have that with this team noel and liam bullshit. |
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Post by jamiemilne on Sept 6, 2011 15:48:33 GMT -5
well i cannot wait for the aa album, have all of AA's work and the three volumes of psychedelic bubble comps
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 15:57:10 GMT -5
I hope he drops it without a warning, like Radiohead did. Imagine what it must be like to listen to an album in full, without having heard anything of it yet. Would be amazing I would love that. That was a great experience - no-one had heard the album, and it was great to be a part of that. The album is't great, but I loved hearing without preconceived ideas. Really looking forward to it, the AA will bring a lot of new colours to Noel's canvas. The arrangements will be inventive, and the record will be anything but "Noel by numbers" (that'll be one cliche I'll be glad to see gone). |
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Post by cosmos on Sept 6, 2011 16:06:08 GMT -5
The AA albums is going to be better in every single sense, I´m sure about it. Why??? As Noel stated, the AA put him outta his comfort zone and that is what Noel (or Beady Eye) needs. To try new horizons, new directions. Otherwise, we would get the same tunes, different chords, very similar ideas on the lyrics and familiar production. Example of this: AKA What a life > Falling down. I´m kinda sick of Noel´s obsession with Tomorrow never knows-esque songs. I have always had bigger expectations for that second album since announced.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 6, 2011 17:45:39 GMT -5
Noel is doing HFB for the fans, whereas he's doing the AA album for himself. That's how I see it, anyway.
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