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Post by deasy on Sept 5, 2011 17:46:05 GMT -5
If the boards turns into this after a song like this then I'm going to be scared to log on here when The AA album comes around.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 5, 2011 17:48:22 GMT -5
^^Anyone with LF standards needs to get a grip, I'm not a huge DM fan tbh, seems lot of Noel fans find it hard to move on, sat at home watching There and Then DVD, thankfully it seems most love this song, espec non-oasis fans, guy on R2 was saying earlier that they had "incredibly positive comments from email". If anyone on here has not listened and taking the word of minority that the song isn't good, I would ignore as most of those are only here awaiting DM part 2, it'll never happen, Noel and music has moved on, and it's for the better, Noel is now writing songs for the time and is growing as an artist instead of being stuck doing guitar solo's every song. Just because every song Noel does now isn't same structure as everything from mid90's doesn't mean it's no good, suggest those with the probs need get with reality, you will be disappointed with the album because it's not going to be DM part 2 with same structure and guitar solos I'm afraid, so prepare for it now set up your own moaning thread and leave those who aren't afraid to open minds to enjoy. WTF are you smoking dude? "MINORITY thinks this song isn't good" LMAO. good one. anyways, no one is saying we want the exact same sound DM had. But when you subscribe to what an artist does, in this case Noel, you have certain expectations, be it a specific type of sound, a level of quality, etc. I like a lot of the songs on DBTT, in fact, i love a couple of them and hold them in very high regard. Does that mean i am stuck in the 90s? No, stop trying to cover the sun with your finger, A LOT of people don't think much of the new song, if you don't agree that's fine, no one is saying you have to.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 5, 2011 17:49:11 GMT -5
If the boards turns into this after a song like this then I'm going to be scared to log on here when The AA album comes around. I'm looking forward to the AA album. But AKA WAL is just a somewhat good song for me. I've got it at a 7.8/10.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 5, 2011 17:52:06 GMT -5
^^Anyone with LF standards needs to get a grip, I'm not a huge DM fan tbh, seems lot of Noel fans find it hard to move on, sat at home watching There and Then DVD, thankfully it seems most love this song, espec non-oasis fans, guy on R2 was saying earlier that they had "incredibly positive comments from email". If anyone on here has not listened and taking the word of minority that the song isn't good, I would ignore as most of those are only here awaiting DM part 2, it'll never happen, Noel and music has moved on, and it's for the better, Noel is now writing songs for the time and is growing as an artist instead of being stuck doing guitar solo's every song. Just because every song Noel does now isn't same structure as everything from mid90's doesn't mean it's no good, suggest those with the probs need get with reality, you will be disappointed with the album because it's not going to be DM part 2 with same structure and guitar solos I'm afraid, so prepare for it now set up your own moaning thread and leave those who aren't afraid to open minds to enjoy. WTF are you smoking dude? "MINORITY thinks this song isn't good" LMAO. good one. anyways, no one is saying we want the exact same sound DM had. But when you subscribe to what an artist does, in this case Noel, you have certain expectations, be it a specific type of sound, a level of quality, etc.I think that's the main problem. I truly do feel that if these songs had been made by BDI (a lot of other people including myself), would be amazed. But we expect so much from Noel, that if he comes out with a song that's just slightly above average, we have more of a tendency to slate it. Rather than if BDI had made the same song, we'd be impressed. Noel's just on a different scale. Which is somewhat unfair, because it means that he has to make near perfect songs to keep up with expectations.
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Post by lionsden® on Sept 5, 2011 17:55:14 GMT -5
If the boards turns into this after a song like this then I'm going to be scared to log on here when The AA album comes around. I'm looking forward to the AA album. But AKA WAL is just a somewhat good song for me. I've got it at a 7.8/10. You can only rate songs in increments of .50 points
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Post by spaneli on Sept 5, 2011 17:56:33 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the AA album. But AKA WAL is just a somewhat good song for me. I've got it at a 7.8/10. You can only rate songs in increments of .50 points LIES! I make my own rules!!!
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Sept 5, 2011 17:57:01 GMT -5
I do applaud Noel for trying something somewhat new. Keeping things fresh is always welcome.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 5, 2011 18:00:31 GMT -5
i was waiting to see what your rating for the song was Spaneli. Can't say i didn't see that one coming from what your post was on the tv advert thread. Some people forget that we are in an Oasis forum first and foremost. Yes, i love Noel AND Liam and i like Andy and Gem as well but, the reason why most people signed up here was because they loved the music Oasis made. So, when they split, of course the fans were going to continue to follow both acts but imo, the standard was always gonna be Oasis. Is this better than the last Oasis song? is this better than the best Oasis song? and so forth... What i am saying is, people shouldn't expect the fans to like anything Noel or LAG release just because they were in Oasis. People especially shouldn't be telling other fans to "move on" and to "stop living in the past". We as fans have certain expectations and standards, if they are not met we have every right to say so and we have every right to critique the music that we are hearing, be it from NGHFB or BDI.
Every artist is compared to their own previous work, for instance BHN was compared to WTMG, and not very favorably. Were all those music journalists and fans "living in the past" ? No, that's just something you have to do measure the quality of the work. When you say "just move on, this isn't 1996", that's basically a copout and all you're doing is embarrassing not only yourself but most importantly, the artist.
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Post by manualex on Sept 5, 2011 18:06:08 GMT -5
Noel's just on a different scale. Which is somewhat unfair, because it means that he has to make near perfect songs to keep up with expectations. That's the price you have to pay when you are talented and know that can give more.
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Post by kenneth on Sept 5, 2011 18:16:36 GMT -5
WTF are you smoking dude? "MINORITY thinks this song isn't good" LMAO. good one. anyways, no one is saying we want the exact same sound DM had. But when you subscribe to what an artist does, in this case Noel, you have certain expectations, be it a specific type of sound, a level of quality, etc.I think that's the main problem. I truly do feel that if these songs had been made by BDI (a lot of other people including myself), would be amazed. But we expect so much from Noel, that if he comes out with a song that's just slightly above average, we have more of a tendency to slate it. Rather than if BDI had made the same song, we'd be impressed. Noel's just on a different scale. Which is somewhat unfair, because it means that he has to make near perfect songs to keep up with expectations. Well said, Spaneli, well said. I think we can all agree on this forum, that the expectation for Noels solo album is through the roof. Which isn't that weird really, since we've been wanting a Noel solo album for the better part of 10 years or something like that. Beady Eye had it somewhat easier with their album, since it mostly took many of us with a positive surprise, while Noel will have a much harder time by living up to the standards. Not being helped by Alan McGee's comparing of Noels new songs to Live Forever and Don't Look Back In Anger. I will say though, and this might perhaps be a little controversial, I do rate If I Had A Gun up there with them right now. We'll see where it stands in a couple of months.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 5, 2011 18:31:11 GMT -5
WTF are you smoking dude? "MINORITY thinks this song isn't good" LMAO. good one. anyways, no one is saying we want the exact same sound DM had. But when you subscribe to what an artist does, in this case Noel, you have certain expectations, be it a specific type of sound, a level of quality, etc.I think that's the main problem. I truly do feel that if these songs had been made by BDI (a lot of other people including myself), would be amazed. But we expect so much from Noel, that if he comes out with a song that's just slightly above average, we have more of a tendency to slate it. Rather than if BDI had made the same song, we'd be impressed. Noel's just on a different scale. Which is somewhat unfair, because it means that he has to make near perfect songs to keep up with expectations. I don't really agree with with that, the only difference with this song if BDI had of done it, would have been that Liam would have sang it which as often pulled some of Noel's songs up a notch or two for me in the past. I've got used to Noel's sometimes indifferent songwriting since BHN, I don't have different expectations. A good song is a good song. The only difference this time around was I didn't know how BDI would sound. But in terms of songwriting I apply the same rules as ever.
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Post by gmajor7 on Sept 5, 2011 18:36:27 GMT -5
I think this is a 7/10 song, and we have to remember that Noel is allowed to write 7/10 songs. He can't be brilliant all the time. I think this song could have been great had the guitars kicked in properly (as they might do live), so I am a bit disappointed. But let's face it, if this is Noel's version of a disappointment, NGHFB will be one hell of an album.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 5, 2011 18:36:37 GMT -5
I think people need to realise that this is a Noel Gallagher section not an oasis section. I can link you to the oasis section if you can't find it. That band is dead. If you want Noel to make more oasis like songs then I'm sorry for you. That is not going to happen and you are just living in the past. Go back and turn on Morning Glory for the 347238423857 time or embrace what Noel is doing. Just don't expect him to do what YOU want.
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Post by Cast on Sept 5, 2011 18:37:53 GMT -5
I think people need to realise that this is a Noel Gallagher section not an oasis section. I can link you to the oasis section if you can't find it. That band is dead. If you want Noel to make more oasis like songs then I'm sorry for you. That is not going to happen and you are just living in the past. Go back and turn on Morning Glory for the 347238423857 time or embrace what Noel is doing. Just don't expect him to do what YOU want. K+ I'm actually enjoying the division that this tune is bring to the forum. I can't wait for the AA album.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 5, 2011 18:40:27 GMT -5
I think people need to realise that this is a Noel Gallagher section not an oasis section. I can link you to the oasis section if you can't find it. That band is dead. If you want Noel to make more oasis like songs then I'm sorry for you. That is not going to happen and you are just living in the past. Go back and turn on Morning Glory for the 347238423857 time or embrace what Noel is doing. Just don't expect him to do what YOU want. K+ I'm actually enjoying the division that this tune is bring to the forum. I can't wait for the AA album. I can't wait for the AA album. It'll be fun to hear it and read the over reactions on this board. "It's not like Live Forever"
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 5, 2011 18:41:32 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the AA album a lot more too, think the shit will hit the fan here though hahaha
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Post by deasy on Sept 5, 2011 18:46:32 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the AA album a lot more too, think the shit will hit the fan here though hahaha Biggest understatement of all time
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Post by daii on Sept 5, 2011 18:47:57 GMT -5
liam loves it!!!!
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Post by gmajor7 on Sept 5, 2011 18:48:14 GMT -5
I think people need to realise that this is a Noel Gallagher section not an oasis section. I can link you to the oasis section if you can't find it. That band is dead. If you want Noel to make more oasis like songs then I'm sorry for you. That is not going to happen and you are just living in the past. Go back and turn on Morning Glory for the 347238423857 time or embrace what Noel is doing. Just don't expect him to do what YOU want. Agreed. But it also annoys me when people slag off IIHAG for being too much like oasis. Noel shouldn't be expected to do something different just for the sake of it...
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 5, 2011 18:49:54 GMT -5
K+
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 5, 2011 18:51:06 GMT -5
I think people need to realise that this is a Noel Gallagher section not an oasis section. I can link you to the oasis section if you can't find it. That band is dead. If you want Noel to make more oasis like songs then I'm sorry for you. That is not going to happen and you are just living in the past. Go back and turn on Morning Glory for the 347238423857 time or embrace what Noel is doing. Just don't expect him to do what YOU want. Agreed. But it also annoys me when people slag off IIHAG for being too much like oasis. Noel shouldn't be expected to do something different just for the sake of it... Again, that's what I meant. He can do whatever the fuck he likes, not what we want him to do.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 5, 2011 18:51:46 GMT -5
i don't have to embrace shit i don't like. I am a fan of his but i am entitled to my opinion and when he releases a song as shitty as this, i have every right to say what i think of it. i don't wanna go back and listen to MG, i want him to make songs that are on par with the songs on that album. Of course i know that's just wishful thinking. Like someone else mentioned, Noel's output wasn't exactly stellar in the last few years with Oasis and often had to rely on Liam's voice to make what was an average song seem like a good one.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 5, 2011 18:56:18 GMT -5
i don't have to embrace shit i don't like. I am a fan of his but i am entitled to my opinion and when he releases a song as shitty as this, i have every right to say what i think of it. i don't wanna go back and listen to MG, i want him to make songs that are on par with the songs on that album. Of course i know that's just wishful thinking. Like someone else mentioned, Noel's output wasn't exactly stellar in the last few years with Oasis and often had to rely on Liam's voice to make what was an average song seem like a good one. this may be the Noel "section" of the forum but this board and website was created because of Oasis, not because of NGHFB, (same goes for BDI). So... to put it all in perspective, if it wasn't for Oasis, the band, this place wouldn't exist. The regularity with which you miss the point never ceases to amaze me. What are you 12?
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 5, 2011 18:57:58 GMT -5
ok "proud member of team Noel"... lol If you have a problem with that, maybe YOU should go looking for another place to post, maybe a Noel-only forum?(good luck finding one with an actual community), where all every single member does is praise anything Noel puts out. lol
hard to take you serious when you obviously have a big bias. Whatever you say basically means nothing.
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Post by Level 03 on Sept 5, 2011 18:58:10 GMT -5
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