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Post by actionbronson on Sept 7, 2011 19:21:16 GMT -5
HI UGHF, are you still at school m8? if so could you ask your teacher to explain to you the difference between 'proof', and 'barely coherent opinion'?
BDI4it
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Post by eminorseventh on Sept 7, 2011 20:06:06 GMT -5
I have yet to hear a song that will convince non Oasis fans to buy the album. Of course WE love the songs; we're all Oasis fans. People bitched about marketing before the release of every Oasis album, blaming the lack of promotion for lackluster sales. But there's a reason WTSMG was a hit in the US. It had the best songs. Period. IIHAG isn't DLBIA or Wonderwall. It just isn't. I could care less about album sales, but there's no way in the hell this album will be "massive."
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Post by deasy on Sept 7, 2011 20:30:05 GMT -5
But there's a reason WTSMG was a hit in the US. It had the best songs. Period. That's probably one of the last things you need to have for a hit in the US. Period.
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Post by eminorseventh on Sept 7, 2011 20:49:40 GMT -5
But there's a reason WTSMG was a hit in the US. It had the best songs. Period. That's probably one of the last things you need to have for a hit in the US. Period. I see what you're saying, and you're right, but you know what I mean. It's not like Oasis were huge because of the sibling rivalry. They had amazing songs. And yes, those songs are better than their most recent output.
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Post by seanzie on Sept 8, 2011 1:00:18 GMT -5
In an effort to somewhat salvage this thread, I will say that I think this is going to be Noel's most commercially successful endeavor in America. Internet advertising is at an all-time high, and Noel's PR team is doing a very good job of promoting him right now.
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Post by deasy on Sept 8, 2011 5:40:26 GMT -5
In an effort to somewhat salvage this thread, I will say that I think this is going to be Noel's most commercially successful endeavor in America. Internet advertising is at an all-time high, and Noel's PR team is doing a very good job of promoting him right now. You think it's going to sell over 4 million copies in America?
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Sept 8, 2011 5:56:15 GMT -5
I have yet to hear a song that will convince non Oasis fans to buy the album. Of course WE love the songs; we're all Oasis fans. People bitched about marketing before the release of every Oasis album, blaming the lack of promotion for lackluster sales. But there's a reason WTSMG was a hit in the US. It had the best songs. Period. IIHAG isn't DLBIA or Wonderwall. It just isn't. I could care less about album sales, but there's no way in the hell this album will be "massive."
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 8, 2011 7:25:34 GMT -5
Shhhh guys, keep the use of commercial and America to a minimum or we'll have lgfaver in here with his lols and lmafaos and shit.
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Post by seanzie on Sept 8, 2011 11:38:38 GMT -5
In an effort to somewhat salvage this thread, I will say that I think this is going to be Noel's most commercially successful endeavor in America. Internet advertising is at an all-time high, and Noel's PR team is doing a very good job of promoting him right now. You think it's going to sell over 4 million copies in America? No, but then again, who does anymore? :-P I think 1.5M isn't a bad number in today's day and age.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 8, 2011 12:13:08 GMT -5
Canoeing down the river alone, UGHF is trying to find his way back home.....
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Post by deasy on Sept 8, 2011 12:58:27 GMT -5
You think it's going to sell over 4 million copies in America? No, but then again, who does anymore? :-P I think 1.5M isn't a bad number in today's day and age. Well you did say it was going to be "Noel's most commercially successful endeavor in America", and WTSMG sold 4 million...so...... ;D
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Post by UGHF on Sept 8, 2011 17:50:40 GMT -5
Canoeing down the river alone, UGHF is trying to find his way back home..... Pretty sure I said I canoed on and around an inlet...back in the "Twice-Banned Wonderkid" phase
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Post by UGHF on Sept 8, 2011 17:51:30 GMT -5
HI UGHF, are you still at school m8? if so could you ask your teacher to explain to you the difference between 'proof', and 'barely coherent opinion'? BDI4it
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Post by seanzie on Sept 8, 2011 21:36:54 GMT -5
No, but then again, who does anymore? :-P I think 1.5M isn't a bad number in today's day and age. Well you did say it was going to be "Noel's most commercially successful endeavor in America", and WTSMG sold 4 million...so...... ;D Hmm, I guess I should rephrase. Maybe it won't sell the most records, but it will propel him into the conscious of the American music fan. WTSMG sold well because of Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova, not because anybody gave a fuck about Noel (or any of the others)
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Post by spaneli on Sept 8, 2011 22:07:30 GMT -5
did somebody say 1.5 million albums sold.... in America? pff... Adele has just over 3 mill. albums sold, and she's selling by the bucket load by today standards at least. 1.5 mill. for Noel isn't even in the discussion. People should be happy if he just equals the Oasis record sales in the US for DOYS. That in itself would be a major victory, but 1.5 mill. I love Noel, but really 1.5 million? C'mon guys. Nice to hope, but I wouldn't hold my breath. EDIT: Just found the actual comment, and I don't know if the poster was actually alluding toward Noel selling 1.5 million, or if he was just saying that that's considered a good number now and days, and just threw out as an example.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 22:14:10 GMT -5
Noel isn't a 20-something who shakes his ass around the stage, and he's not black! No way in hell he sells even a million in the US.
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Post by seanzie on Sept 8, 2011 22:33:02 GMT -5
Noel isn't a 20-something who shakes his ass around the stage, and he's not black! No way in hell he sells even a million in the US. Wow, highly offensive, slightly sexist and moderately racist. Good job. Yes, it's shocking that Britrock doesn't sell by the boatload in America where hip-hop, Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus are king. Also, to clarify, I didn't mean that Noel would sell 1.5M. I was just saying 4M is an impossibility in today's age, but just because he doesn't reach that number doesn't mean his solo effort couldn't be considered a resounding success in America. I'll re-iterate, I think this album could make Noel a "name" in the American music landscape.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 8, 2011 22:36:37 GMT -5
Noel isn't a 20-something who shakes his ass around the stage, and he's not black! No way in hell he sells even a million in the US. Wow, highly offensive, slightly sexist and moderately racist. Good job. Guys can't shake their ass around the stage too. And I don't think it was even close to racist. Trust me, I'm half black. Or trust half of me, whatever.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 9, 2011 4:21:22 GMT -5
What's yellow and dangerous?
Discharge from my ****
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Post by deasy on Sept 9, 2011 5:07:35 GMT -5
If Noel sells over 1 million worldwide I will consider it a success.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 9, 2011 17:37:39 GMT -5
If Noel sells over 1 million worldwide I will consider it a success. low standards FTW lol
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Post by deasy on Sept 9, 2011 17:52:46 GMT -5
If Noel sells over 1 million worldwide I will consider it a success. low standards FTW lol Considering DGSS sold less than 400k worldwide I don't think my standards are low at all ;D
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 9, 2011 20:03:17 GMT -5
Considering DGSS sold less than 400k worldwide I don't think my standards are low at all ;D DGSS has been -commercially speaking- a total disappointment imo. Critically speaking, it's been the opposite. But why are we talking about BDI and DGSS ? Noel's supposed to do better when it comes to sales, that's a given. but let's not pretend like "oh he did better than Liam's band, therefore it's a success" That's just a cop-out.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 9, 2011 20:13:46 GMT -5
I certainly wouldn't consider 1 million worldwide as "low' standards.
I also believe that it would be a great victory for him if he could sell over a million copies worldwide. DOYS sold around 1.5 million around the world, so yeah 1 million would be a big thing for Noel.
It's not low expectations for him to sell a million, it's actually just right. If you take in account his fanbase, where he is in his career, and the state of the music business in general.
So yeah, if he came even close without the Oasis name to what DOYS sold with the Oasis name, then that would be a huge success for him.
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Post by supersonic8587 on Sept 9, 2011 20:24:32 GMT -5
We should be comparing Noel's album to the sales of DOYS if we have to compare it to anything, certainly not DGSS. I agree with spaneli, if Noel can sell 1 million albums, that will be a huge success for him. Anything more than that is just icing.
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