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Post by galli86 on Aug 14, 2011 3:16:55 GMT -5
The whole "counting the shoes comment" just means Andy was gazing off into space or looking down knowing full well what's going on but has no desire to do the right thing and speak up. For example: If I had two friends who were on the verge of a fight I would get out of my chair and try to settle things down. That's the adult thing to do and that is what a friend should do. Andy Bell obviously didn't care enough to speak up and help his fellow friend out. It's pretty simple actually.... there are a lot of possible reasons why didnt come into action. he has seen dozens of gallagher fights. one of them nearly destroyed the band in early 2000, months after he joined the band. he knows liam/noel better than all of us here together. he probably thought let these pricks have their fucking argument, it all will be ok in the end and the band will go on. there have been so many arguments and fights in the past, it surely isnt easy to tell which of them could break up the band if none has done so in 18years. noel cant expect anything from andy. it is and was between the brothers ,it was noel who had a problem. and I think Liam was right when he said that noel wanted out of the band. so leave andy alone he was just accidentally in the wrong room. |
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Post by copie on Aug 14, 2011 3:56:38 GMT -5
Yea if your two bosses are arguing you don't jump to get in the middle... Andy may be a 'douche' but it isn't because he stayed quiet during this argument.
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Post by copie on Aug 14, 2011 4:00:55 GMT -5
Can everyone stop using the word 'Douche' I know a lot of you are American and that's great, but it's the shittest insult in the world. North Americans will stop using the word 'douche' when Brits stop using "at the end of the day" in every other sentence (which they normally start with the word "Right"). Don't start a sentence with "Right"... |
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Post by discworld on Aug 14, 2011 4:19:26 GMT -5
Andy is a huge fan of the ostrich policy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 7:51:39 GMT -5
If I had two friends who were on the verge of a fight I would get out of my chair and try to settle things down. That's the adult thing to do and that is what a friend should do. What are you smoking? Who intervenes in a family feud? Who actually comes between two brothers? They'll most likely tell you stay out of it anyway. It's the Gallagher brothers, for Christ's sake. It's not Andy's fault Oasis broke up. I bet he wishes he joined Gem for a sneaky fag. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Aug 14, 2011 8:45:45 GMT -5
Andy never did anything wrong. He kept his trap shut, which was the smart thing to do. Noel Gallagher is a genius but he's also an asshole.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2011 9:45:32 GMT -5
Andy never did anything wrong. He kept his trap shut, which was the smart thing to do. Noel Gallagher is a genius but he's also an asshole. What is that Noel said that was SO condemning? |
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Aug 14, 2011 9:56:28 GMT -5
Andy never did anything wrong. He kept his trap shut, which was the smart thing to do. Noel Gallagher is a genius but he's also an asshole. What is that Noel said that was SO condemning? If he was trying to blame Andy in the conference, imo he is possibly an asshole. galli86's post, along with some of the other posts above explaining it was a family situation, could also be applied to support my opinion. It was injust agressiveness expressed toward a powerless employee, which is quite childish in my point of view. Andy's done nothing wrong, at least according to every bits of information and probable guesses we can currently obtain. The fact that some Noel lovers here justify their feelings with the ungrounded, irrelevant thesis "Andy is dull" only displays their lack of logic, reason and evidence. |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 14, 2011 10:16:11 GMT -5
Noel didn't blame Andy. The people on this board are blaming Andy based on a mild comment by Noel.
What did Noel say that was accusative and aggressive towards Andy?
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Post by MacaRonic on Aug 14, 2011 10:18:01 GMT -5
What is that Noel said that was SO condemning? If he was trying to blame Andy in the conference, imo he is possibly an asshole. galli86's post, along with some of the other posts above explaining it was a family situation, could also be applied to support my opinion. It was injust agressiveness expressed toward a powerless employee, which is quite childish in my point of view. Andy's done nothing wrong, at least according to every bits of information and probable guesses we can currently obtain. The fact that some Noel lovers here justify their feelings with the ungrounded, irrelevant thesis "Andy is dull" only displays their lack of logic, reason and evidence. This. |
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Post by rmillis on Aug 14, 2011 11:59:27 GMT -5
If I had two friends who were on the verge of a fight I would get out of my chair and try to settle things down. That's the adult thing to do and that is what a friend should do. What are you smoking? Who intervenes in a family feud? Who actually comes between two brothers? They'll most likely tell you stay out of it anyway. It's the Gallagher brothers, for Christ's sake. It's not Andy's fault Oasis broke up. I bet he wishes he joined Gem for a sneaky fag. Obviously we disagree. Don't resort to petty lines such as "What are you smoking". I just think it's sad that if your friends or family were fighting you would just let it happen and not talk up at all. Shows what kind of person you are..... |
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Post by agnhi on Aug 14, 2011 12:14:41 GMT -5
Obviously we disagree. Don't resort to petty lines such as "What are you smoking". I just think it's sad that if your friends or family were fighting you would just let it happen and not talk up at all. Shows what kind of person you are..... There's been tens of people who have worked very closely with Gallaghers who have said when things go ugly between them it is not their place to interfere and even if they tried "all they see and hear is each other". It's nothing to do "would you go between two friends/two brothers". Just throwing this here, popped into my mind. Noel's been clearly sort of regretting the split and leaving, saying stuff like if he had taken a few days to think through it the result might've been different. Maybe all this expecting "outsiders"(anyone but him+Liam) to do something about a fight situation is just sort of passing the blame to make himself feel more comfortable about his decision? |
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Post by rmillis on Aug 14, 2011 12:25:33 GMT -5
Obviously we disagree. Don't resort to petty lines such as "What are you smoking". I just think it's sad that if your friends or family were fighting you would just let it happen and not talk up at all. Shows what kind of person you are..... There's been tens of people who have worked very closely with Gallaghers who have said when things go ugly between them it is not their place to interfere and even if they tried "all they see and hear is each other". It's nothing to do "would you go between two friends/two brothers". Just throwing this here, popped into my mind. Noel's been clearly sort of regretting the split and leaving, saying stuff like if he had taken a few days to think through it the result might've been different. Maybe all this expecting "outsiders"(anyone but him+Liam) to do something about a fight situation is just sort of passing the blame to make himself feel more comfortable about his decision? Thank you for giving a good answer and being polite. I think Noel might be passing the blame too. It just kind of sounds like he wanted support during a heated argument and I think we've all been there and needed a little support. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 12:45:28 GMT -5
What are you smoking? Who intervenes in a family feud? Who actually comes between two brothers? They'll most likely tell you stay out of it anyway. It's the Gallagher brothers, for Christ's sake. It's not Andy's fault Oasis broke up. I bet he wishes he joined Gem for a sneaky fag. Obviously we disagree. Don't resort to petty lines such as "What are you smoking". I just think it's sad that if your friends or family were fighting you would just let it happen and not talk up at all. Shows what kind of person you are..... Wow. That is a really horrible thing to say to someone. You call me petty and then you have the cheek to judge what sort of person I am? Firstly, I didn't say whatever it is you think I said, you're putting words in my mouth. Let's get this sorted: 1) 'What are you smoking?' is a jokey thing to say where I come from. I didn't mean any disrespect by it. And for that, I apologise. 2) I asked you who would intervene in an argument between two brothers known for sibling squabbles. You then say, "I just think it's sad that if your friends or family were fighting you would just let it happen and not talk up at all." That has NOTHING to do with what I said because I never said it. It is not adult behaviour to intervene in a family feud when they're not you're family! I didn't say I wouldn't intervene if my family was fighting, but that I wouldn't get between two brothers (especially when it's Liam and Noel) with whom I am not related. No where in making this point did I offend you. I asked a couple of questions to which I was hoping to receive a mature response. 3) Where do you get off insulting me like that? I made my point in a rational and neutral way (bar the misunderstanding concerning the 'what are you smoking?' line) and then you insult me and my character on a public forum. Nonetheless, I will accept an apology and I hope we can continue this discussion in a mature and friendly way. |
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Post by putthisin ® on Aug 14, 2011 13:08:39 GMT -5
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Post by deasy on Aug 14, 2011 13:08:54 GMT -5
Have I missed something? Did Noel stab Andy or something? Because that's the reaction I'm getting from the comments  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 13:35:49 GMT -5
Have I missed something? Did Noel stab Andy or something? Because that's the reaction I'm getting from the comments Yeah, I agree. Complete overreaction from some people. Andy and Noel don't get along that well. End of story. |
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Post by LlAM on Aug 14, 2011 13:36:41 GMT -5
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!
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Post by mkoasis on Aug 14, 2011 14:31:55 GMT -5
Obviously we disagree. Don't resort to petty lines such as "What are you smoking". I just think it's sad that if your friends or family were fighting you would just let it happen and not talk up at all. Shows what kind of person you are..... There's been tens of people who have worked very closely with Gallaghers who have said when things go ugly between them it is not their place to interfere and even if they tried "all they see and hear is each other". It's nothing to do "would you go between two friends/two brothers". Just throwing this here, popped into my mind. Noel's been clearly sort of regretting the split and leaving, saying stuff like if he had taken a few days to think through it the result might've been different. Maybe all this expecting "outsiders"(anyone but him+Liam) to do something about a fight situation is just sort of passing the blame to make himself feel more comfortable about his decision? I agree with you. I think Noel's recent comments in the newsroom about Oasis reforming seem to agree with your point. (For those who don't remember, he redirected the reforming question and said "the lead singer said it won't happen", or something along those lines). |
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Post by Marky on Aug 15, 2011 4:33:41 GMT -5
This is hilarious.
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Aug 15, 2011 7:29:45 GMT -5
This isn't the start nor the end of the endless pleasure this forum gives.  |
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Post by paperbackwriter on Aug 15, 2011 11:04:04 GMT -5
There's been tens of people who have worked very closely with Gallaghers who have said when things go ugly between them it is not their place to interfere and even if they tried "all they see and hear is each other". It's nothing to do "would you go between two friends/two brothers". Just throwing this here, popped into my mind. Noel's been clearly sort of regretting the split and leaving, saying stuff like if he had taken a few days to think through it the result might've been different. Maybe all this expecting "outsiders"(anyone but him+Liam) to do something about a fight situation is just sort of passing the blame to make himself feel more comfortable about his decision? I agree with you. I think Noel's recent comments in the newsroom about Oasis reforming seem to agree with your point. (For those who don't remember, he redirected the reforming question and said "the lead singer said it won't happen", or something along those lines). Yeah, I think so too. More important than argue how big a dick Noel or Andy is, is to note that Noel's comments on the press conference with the one in the last interview point to maybe a regret or a possibility of regrouping, at least for Noel. Or it could all be insecurity of being a frontman, which if he does successfully, could annul these feelings... who knows. but i think we should focus on this... anyone care to join me on this? lol |
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Post by cosmos on Aug 15, 2011 12:36:08 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher is truly the master puppet of media... he really washed your brain.
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Post by space75gr on Aug 15, 2011 12:59:17 GMT -5
i m definitely with Andy.
he has every right to say whatever he fucking wants about anything and everyone about Noel about God.
and i agree with his comments about Noel.
btw, Andy had some great years with Oasis but if you think that Oasis made him "important" you are totally insane.
you know, he used to be in a band called "RIDE" and their debut album "Nowhere" is "...one of the greatest albums of the shoegazing genre, second only to My Bloody Valentine's Loveless..."
he also wrote 'Four Letter Word', 'Millionaire', 'Kill For A Dream' and 'The Beat Goes On' tracks that could easily make it as singles in any oasis album after MG.
If that makes someone boring, then i d love to be a "boring" one like him...
it s time for some RESPECT about him.
now you can continue sucking Noel's ****
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Post by wonderplan on Aug 15, 2011 13:40:27 GMT -5
we should rename this thread to Could the OP be any more of a Douche?
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