Thanks. I'll add you to the thick c.unt live4ever members list.

Don't worry, I'm also a part of that list...so don't be offended.

Look, I'm not one of those idiot Radiohead fans who is a snob to anything that isn't validated by Pitchfork or Thom Yorke's wretched self. There's just so many other bands that are better at doing what Kasabian are always trying to do.

They're a bit clumsy when it comes to straight ahead Rock N Roll, they slip n slide when they attempt house music and their experiments with trippy psychedelia are beyond awful. 'Club Foot' is not a good song, I'm sorry. Empire isn't even worth mentioning and West Pauper (as I've stated before) broke the modern record for the amount of filler tracks to appear on an album. Everything from 'Swarfiga' to 'Fast Fuse' to 'Thick As Thieves' sound like bad Blur b-sides. And as for 'Ladies and Gentlemen', was I the only one who immediatley thought of a drunk Michael Stipe attempting a karoake verison of 'E-Bow the Letter'? Because that's what it sounded like.

Blur experimented on their b-sides because they weren't yet completely adept or polished enough to foray into a variety of too many styles on their records, thus they had good quality control and only experimented on their a-sides when they were good enough. Kasabian don't realise that they can't experiment and that they do not have the sophistication required to shove their late-night knob-twiddling excercises down listener's throats and thus ruin albums that had some potential as a collection of so-so party tunes.

'Fire' is passable, but the singer can't even attempt to sing it live, making it a complete dissapointment for what it is intended for - a singalong live anthem. 'Underdog' is perhaps their only good song so far, and this what they should stick to. No frills, straight ahead rock with a somewhat catchy melody IN the singer's vocal range (which isn't very big, mind you.)

And don't get me started on their lyrics, if they write one more song about a pub brawl I'm going to fly over and personally knock them all out, because it seems they love a fight so much.
I also don't get the mentality across this board that just because Noel likes Kasabian, Kasabian like Oasis and they are influenced by Oasis, I should immediately like them as well. No, it doesn't work like this, Kasabian couldn't hold a candle to themselves, let alone any other band around at the moment or anyone that they try to sound like.

And what was with the singer's little phony attitude and hollow cockiness when they started out? I'm sorry, trying to pull off Oasis' music is one thing, but their personas as well? Good luck. But the final straw was when he grew his hair on the last tour to imitate what his heroes have done before him when they reached a certain phase in their careers (John Lennon and Liam Gallagher), but instead ended up looking like a mock-up character from The Mighty Boosh.

I'm not an overall negative person or anything, and I'm not trying to pick a verbal fight for the hell of it. I just don't get Kasabian and how anyone could like them. My reasons for thus are above. We can agree to disagree, whatever. But Kasabian will never be worth listening to, end of story.

EDIT: I apologize for getting a bit off the threah topic, I would've posted this in the Kasabian thread, but refrained from doing so for fear of getting my head bitten off by a mob of drunken louts.

Is the next single going on radio anytime soon or is it being released "On air/On sale" on the 12th?

What a cop out! Give us some examples of real musicians. I'm always open to new music anyway.

And I know you're looking for a decent conversation, but when you're argument boils down to three words ("in my opinion...") then I don't know how you can expect much. I don't know why you expect anything when half of your posts are snide comments about certain bands and their, alleged, fan base. I'm sure quite a few people would love to have a go at the Oasis fan base so it's a bit of a silly predicament to be afraid of the "drunken louts"; the same title people love to pin to Oasis fans.

Another cop out! Give us an interesting answer, not something we all know is an indisputable fact. I'd like to hear about these bands that "are better at doing what Kasabian are always trying to do".

I'm a fan of the majority of those bands, but none of those bands are one-upping Kasabian in "what they're always trying to do". (Unless you simply mean make quality music). I'd say only Crystal Castles and Gorillaz are the only bands that make music that is reminiscent of Kasabian. Yeah, I agree, bands like Arcade Fire and The Strokes and The National are better, but their music doesn't bear much similarities to Kasabian.

It's a good list of some great bands (except The Drums who are fucking dreadful), but that's about it. It's entirely possible to like those bands and Kasabian.

^^Correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked I thought the concept of the forum in the first place was to share opinions.

And all of those bands are in a similar vein, some more sophisticated and out there than others, but in the rock/pop vein nevertheless.

^And Matt, some good points there, they are decent with some straight ahead groove songs but thats what they should stick to. Experimentation is not their thing.

I love how this thread has been completely derailed.


I've become a little tired of Kasabian of late. Don't get me wrong, I still love a lot of their songs, but I rarely listen to any of their albums straight through anymore. Most of my attention has been stateside recently, with the exception of the Arctic Monkeys and Noel Gallagher.

Well that's your opinion. Granted, Rooms On Fire is very good, I'll concede that but their last two albums have been incredibly average.

Well, considering that each of their albums have only gotten them to bigger places over the years, it's not based solely on my opinion. First Impressions yielded their biggest single and highest chart placing. And, while I understand the criticism against Angles, at least it showed a band not afraid to diversify and try new things.

^ I remember Pitchfork calling The Strokes 'the American Oasis', referencing how their first two albums were strong and they went downhill from there. What an insult to Oasis. I love their first album and some of their second, but there's no comparison

We have to understand marketing is a very strong part of Coldplay. And that's ok, I mean, every band makes what they want from them, their image, music, etc.

The artwork and overall graphic image from this album is clearly 80s inspired, and you know that's kind of the musical, fashion and visual trend that's coming back today. So they're just getting in the boat of what's in vogue right now.

Having said that, if marketing is an important thing for them, the title is very anti-marketing, since it's not easy to remember, spell, nor even say it. Guess they're confident the music will back it up. Dunno. I don't like it, it just sounds pretentious.

I'm not a Coldplay fan, I find some of their songs enjoyable, but I haven't even listened to the songs they have previewed from this new album, I just wait for the album to be released, and then check it out to see if it's worthwhile. Mind you, Every Teardrop... is really below average.