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Post by y2koasis on Jul 25, 2011 12:42:09 GMT -5
Disappointed. A bunch of songs that we have already heard on the debut solo album. Then the much-hyped first single sounds like a lesser version of the The Importance of Being Idle. Listen to them back to back and tell me which is better.
Making matters even worse is that he is trying to mask the "Noel-by-the-numbers" debut single with a slick looking video. I, personally, will take a strong song over a silly video promo any day of the week.
It seems to me Noel has either no desire to work on tunes like he used to or has a serious case of writers block.
Anyone that thinks the new single is better than The Roller seriously has Noel's head up their ass.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jul 25, 2011 12:44:36 GMT -5
I prefer The Roller to Noel's new song - but that's a rather ironic song to pick in a thread called "The Leftovers" don't you think!
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Post by y2koasis on Jul 25, 2011 12:46:05 GMT -5
I prefer The Roller to Noel's new song - but that's a rather ironic song to pick in a thread called "The Leftovers" don't you think! Not really. That album would be called "Vetoed by the Chief" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 12:46:25 GMT -5
its not Noels fault people recorded him during soundchecks and leaked the demos. and just because you dislike it doesnt mean you can start accusing people of being "up his ass" if they like it over the roller...
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Post by y2koasis on Jul 25, 2011 12:49:13 GMT -5
I'm not saying its horrific and terrible but, compared to what he has done is the past, its beyond average. Play Importance of Being Idle (which as the same vibe) as The Death of You and Me and you'll see which one is the superior tune. That is not a good sign for a lead single, eh.
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Post by bonkers on Jul 25, 2011 12:52:32 GMT -5
you cannot blame Noel for putting on songs that have been heard because they were never supposed to of been heard in the first place. Stupid comment really
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 12:52:40 GMT -5
I'm not saying its horrific and terrible but, compared to what he has done is the past, its beyond average. Play Importance of Being Idle (which as the same vibe) as The Death of You and Me and you'll see which one is the superior tune. That is not a good sign for a lead single, eh. thats like saying listen to the roller then instant karma and see which is the superior tune, That is not a good sign for a lead single either... |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jul 25, 2011 12:57:26 GMT -5
its not Noels fault people recorded him during soundchecks and leaked the demos. and just because you dislike it doesnt mean you can start accusing people of being "up his ass" if they like it over the roller...  For the record, I love DGSS, I love TDOYAM, and that's all that matters to me. Really, some of these guys here  |
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Post by ctmazin on Jul 25, 2011 13:03:17 GMT -5
I never warmed to "The Roller" and I like TDOYAM. Seriously, is that such a controversial choice?! It's not like choosing between Hey Jude and a symphony of armpit farts.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 25, 2011 13:19:00 GMT -5
The funny thing is that DGSS has a bunch of leftovers too.
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Post by stinenat on Jul 25, 2011 13:22:11 GMT -5
the roller drags ass. DOYAM is at it's potential, I listen to TR and just think about how much better it could be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 13:28:17 GMT -5
The real issue here is where you are coming from with this. . . the world at large has not heard any of these tunes. Just because we here at L4E have had the pleasure of getting our hands on a crap load of demos and sound-checks doesn't mean that the world at large has any idea they exist. Do you realize that you are a member of the minority who has heard them before? Maybe 10,000 people out of the 7,000,000,000 on the planet have any idea of what you're talking about. Noel should never make an album simply for those 10,000, because that would be ridiculous. I understand that it is hard to step back and see where you are coming from, but you are way out of line here. Furthermore, the album will be good, whether or not we've heard the tracks as die-hard fans. He will doctor them up differently, and they will come out better. Basically, Noel is working for the masses, not the minority. Lastly, The Roller is a retread tune from a decade ago! That doesn't really help your argument against using old tracks for new albums very well.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 13:32:44 GMT -5
I quite liked The Roller at first. But, personally, I found it grew weaker with each listen. I don't make a thread on the BDI board slating the song or the album because that is a downer for everyone. It doesn't contribute to the quality of the board.
As for "The Leftovers", very cynical. How long was Lennon's Jealous Guy or Brian Wilson's Smile lying around before release?
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Post by boardie on Jul 25, 2011 13:48:54 GMT -5
Or All Around the World, for instance.
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Post by masterplan2011 on Jul 25, 2011 14:01:49 GMT -5
I like TDOYAM but it's a bit worrying it's one of the lead singles but I think the demos are going to be a lot better than TDOYAM. I'm going to put it down to Noel yet again picking the wrong song for the single.
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Post by ctmazin on Jul 25, 2011 14:07:01 GMT -5
Why would you be so worried about picking the wrong first single? Releasing the strongest track first isn't always all that important, and sometimes is counterproductive. Oasis released Shakermaker before Live Forever, RWI and MG (US) ahead of Wonderwall and DLBIA. If IIHAG or RM or STC are runaway hits waiting to happen, their class will show through when they are released as the 2nd or 3rd single.
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 25, 2011 14:07:24 GMT -5
I like TDOYAM but it's a bit worrying it's one of the lead singles but I think the demos are going to be a lot better than TDOYAM. I'm going to put it down to Noel yet again picking the wrong song for the single. You don't even know if it was Noel that picked it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 14:10:19 GMT -5
saying Noel has picked the wrong song is crazy, this is the only tune we've heard!!!!
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Post by matt on Jul 25, 2011 14:46:05 GMT -5
The Roller isn't as good as The Death Of You And Me.
We all know Oasis nick a few things here and there, but that tune just screams Instant Karma at you.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 25, 2011 15:01:53 GMT -5
Why would you be so worried about picking the wrong first single? Releasing the strongest track first isn't always all that important, and sometimes is counterproductive. Oasis released Shakermaker before Live Forever, RWI and MG (US) ahead of Wonderwall and DLBIA. If IIHAG or RM or STC are runaway hits waiting to happen, their class will show through when they are released as the 2nd or 3rd single. That's true. The first single isn't always the best song. This is a primer. I think there might something to the psychology that if you put out your best track first then everything will be a step down from there. I think the strongest single will be the next one because it'll coincide with the album release. |
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Post by liamscoat on Jul 25, 2011 15:11:09 GMT -5
The Roller no more screams Instant Karma than this does TIOBI........they are both solid songs, but I prefer TR.......and I do think TDOYAM is Noel by numbers...too easy....listen vs In a bubble with a bullet and see which song sticks around and is more enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 15:22:18 GMT -5
The Roller screams out Instant Karma ALOT more than TDOYAM does TIOBI,
like pointed out in another thread the only similarity between those two is the falsetto
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Post by masterplan2011 on Jul 25, 2011 15:28:54 GMT -5
Why would you be so worried about picking the wrong first single? Releasing the strongest track first isn't always all that important, and sometimes is counterproductive. Oasis released Shakermaker before Live Forever, RWI and MG (US) ahead of Wonderwall and DLBIA. If IIHAG or RM or STC are runaway hits waiting to happen, their class will show through when they are released as the 2nd or 3rd single. Yeah good point, I suppose this is a good starting point and the singles will probably get much better from here. However whilst we and I'd say any sort of Oasis fan will no doubt listen to the album, the people who aren't big Oasis fans will dismiss this song as Noel by numbers and won't bother listening to the album because they won't have the interest or the patience. I couldn't give a flying shit if Noel doesn't get more of a following but I would have thought him or his team would have put out something a bit more special to get the word going round and sell more records. |
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Post by gdforever on Jul 25, 2011 16:08:28 GMT -5
I think the big single will be the one released immediately before the album.
We are just under 3 months from the album dropping. TR was released a month before DGSS.
We'll be getting another single before the album, I think. I think THAT one will be the strongest one...or one of the strongest ones.
Plus...I think it's generally accepted that BTL was released to shock us out of the Oasis vibe. The most different they got from Oasis. I have a feeling that TDOYAM is released for the exact opposite purpose. Possibly not the shock the Oasis fans away. Noel isn't running from Oasis. He is playing Oasis tunes in his set even.
Also...TIOBI is one song...and song in that similar vein is hardly Noel-by-numbers. Noel-by-numbers is a song like SCYHO or LTBL IMO.
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Post by CF83 on Jul 25, 2011 16:21:00 GMT -5
I met Mani in Sydney in February, and asked him about Noel solo stuff. He said he'd heard it, it sounded great, and that he had 3 albums written before Oasis even split.
I think it's a bit cynical to think that these songs will just be 'leftovers'. Noel has often commented down the years on unreleased songs he's written and how good they were (i.e. Stop The Clocks) but just didn't fit in the the current Oasis album. I don't think that's gonna be a gauge on quality at all.
Plus, we've not really heard If I Had A Gun or Everybody's On The Run. They will be vastly different from a couple of poor quality soundchecks that were recorded years ago. The strings alone sound immense. I also think Record Machine and Stop The Clocks will be much different to the demo's we've heard.
We need to treat this album as new and fresh, and as George Michael once said, listen without prejudice.
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