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Let It Bleed said what everyone was thinking

Not like you to jump on the bandwagon is it?

BDI is NOT bad. But on the other side, Noel's a marvelous songwriter. I've restrained myself not comparing those two. I reckon they're both different ^musically

And oh slow down a little bit, we've only heard one song. RM STC and IHIAG in there too though. But still we no have no idea what the whole album like.

IMO IHIAG has great potential! :-)

Is it a contest?

If the "winner" is judged by sales alone, I don't think there will be a winner. Oasis fans are going to buy Noel's stuff, and Beady Eye's stuff, no matter what. I even bought Beady Eye's cd, and I think they're shockingly bad.

I don't see Noel or Beady Eye having a massive successful hit. Just don't think the public is into it.

Why would you continue to buy music you think is "shockingly bad"?

That's fucking stupid.

Noel is going to be good for BDI I think.

If Noel does do well it might actually benefit BDI. After-all both are being mentioned in the others press. If Noel can get more coverage, and he seems like he is going to be mainly positive about the BDI music, it is only going to improve the recognition of the BDI name. Particularly because it will ensure that they aren't forgetten about while they go away to do their second album.

They may not always be covered in the best light...but people will become or remain aware of their existence. And tbh LG doesn't seem too fussed with get good press anyways.

The shit sales of Beady 'product' in comparison to the hyper-healthy sales of vintage Oasis must have Liam waking up in a cold sweat [financially, and egotistically] most nights.....Oasis' undoubted success was on a 'Law of Diminishing Returns' downward slide after 1997, and perhaps Liam was deluded enough to believe that his 'rock star' persona was more than enough to propel him into 'superstardom', after striking out 'afresh' without Noel.


Well, thus far, Liam himself admits that Beady Eye haven't exactly taken the music world by storm, despite their best efforts.

If the second album sells even less, Liam may feel obliged to downsize his luxury apartment/mansionette status and lifestyle to something a bit more modest.


If things improve for Beady Eye [it's entirely feasible], all well and good...



If not, it's the 'chicken-in-a-basket' tacky cabaret circuit a few years down the line for him and his fellow musicians.

Andy, Gem and liam have proven that they are competent songwriters, perhaps slightly better than they showed in Oasis (especially Andy and Gem). But that's the extent of it--there's nothing exciting about BDI's music. It's OK.

I agree that Oasis stopped producing great albums when Noel stopped writing all the tracks (I consider BHN a great album). Once Noel handed half the album to the other, the chance of getting a great album disappeared. On the other hand, Noel released some truly shocking album tracks--ICSAL, FON, PAITM, GOYHHL, etc, while leaving some real good ones for b-sides and demos. I think the downhill slide could've been stopped by (a) stop letting the others have so much space on the albums, and (b) a clearer understanding of which of his tracks worked and which ones didn't

Nice to see some good posts after yet another shit Deasy55 post.

Noel's last truly superb song was SCYHO imo. It's a bit naive to say Oasis went down hill as soon as he let LAG write songs for the albums.

The one thing that held Oasis back more than anything was Noel's rediculous ability to put the right songs on the albums. In the early days it was such a crime that it makes you mad to think how much bigger Oasis could have become. In the later years it was still there but we were't missing out on Stay Young and getting Magic Pie or Aquiesce and getting Hey Now! it was A Quick Peep instead of Idler's dream, Heart Of a Star etc. Would still have made a huge difference to the overall quality of the albums. And Noel imo picked worse LAG songs than they had written.

The point on Beady Eye nearing the end if the next album isn't as good is laughable. Not only will Liam's sheer determination carry the band on but you really are trapped in your Noel world if you think it's been unsuccessful. Yes you can say the singles haven't charted but tell me the last song by an artist doing what BDI do taht did? The album went in at #3 and was the biggest selling #3 for the past ten years. The promotion has been the biggest let down and it beggars belief that both BDI and Noel have kept the management, they are woeful.

And to say BDI does not "hold a candle" to Noel's song is also absurd. BDI's last b-side was better than TDOYAM

LiamG

1. I don't think you can describe BDI's album as a flop (at least in the UK-you can probably describe it as a flop elsewhere), but it certainly has been less successful than most people thought it would be. 350-400K worldwide is certainly a low number, even for a rock album. I think if you ask Liam himself, he would grant that the album sales have been disappointing.

2. "BDI's last b-side was better than TDOYAM".

You're entitled to your opinon, but the majority of folks here would say the opposite. I also strongly disagree with your notion that Noel's last superb track was SCYHO. Lyla, TIOBI, TSOTL, FD are all superb songs.

3. "trapped in your Noel world"

LMFAO. Funny to hear that from a guy who is so clearly trapped in his own Liam world.

In today's world, neither of the two are going to be very sucessfull. And that's a FACT.

Noel is going to be more sucessfull than Beady Eye in terms of chart positions because for some stupid fucking reason 90% of Oasis fans believe that they have to pick sides. And for some reason they chose Noel before they'd heard a single solo tune from Noel OR Beady Eye.

Noel is also going to be more sucessfull live, but that's mainly because he'll play Oasis tunes. If not, I'm pretty sure he would've ended up like Paul Weller. Not saying he's bad, but he isn't very well known outsite the UK either. And it's not like he's writing THE hit singles like he used to any longer. Like said before, TDOYAM is pretty inspiringless. I do expect more of EOTR and IIHAG though.

Beady Eye isn't bad. Those who say so are saying it because they compare to Noel and in their world to make Noel look better Beady Eye has to be bad. Why don't you compare to other bands out there? Just take a look at what's in the charts! Beady Eye is a decent rock 'n' roll band. They're playing what they like to play, for the sake of music and the fans! Not for some manager or record company who wants them to sell shitloads or otherwise they'd be dropped! They're also very good live. Main problem at festivals is that it's ALL new tunes so yeah, people aren't shouting along from start to end, but what can you expect?

There are some really good songs on the album (Wigwam, Morning Son, ...) and most of the others are above average. We've got 2 absolutely brilliant B-sides (WOMR, ITBWAB). The Blue Moon cover was great. They've developped a lot as Beady Eye already, I'm certainly looking forward to the next album. I believe it will be even better than DGSS!

As for Noel. I'm looking forward to the album. I'm looking forward to hear EOTR and IIHAG in it's finished form. But I'm even more looking forward to the AA collaboration album! Finally something refreshing, new and exciting from Noel. Whether it will be good is another question, but that's part of what makes it exciting!

They both have nothing to worry about. They're both wealthy enough to not have to work ever again. They're both established as musicians. They were Oasis, nothing/nobody can take that away from them. They made it. End of.