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Post by songbirdsally on Jul 7, 2011 15:09:54 GMT -5
Is anyone else still upset by this press conference?
I know I should be happy and excited by the fact that Noel is putting out 2 albums at once (one of which with 18 (!) songs!) BUT no, I'm not, the only thing I can think of is how messed up everything really is.
Noel is full of bullshit. I don't get how people are just blindy believing what he's saying and taking his version of the story for a fact. Maybe there's truth in there but WE DON'T KNOW. And I'm not just bashing Noel cause neither do we know if what Liam says is the truth or not.
And what's his problem with Andy? Seriously, Andy hasn't said a single bad word about Noel in public. NOT A SINGLE ONE. And now Noel is giving him a really hard time.. And what for? For not intervening in a discussion in between Gallaghers? I wouldn't do it either. I think no one would. Cause it's just them 2 fools having a major problem with each other and that's it.
Well, I'm happy it's over. I hope they will never ever reunite.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 7, 2011 15:12:53 GMT -5
i'm happy you're happy.
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Post by songbirdsally on Jul 7, 2011 15:14:11 GMT -5
well thanks for that LIB, I'm happy you care
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Post by deasy on Jul 7, 2011 15:19:18 GMT -5
Is anyone else still upset by this press conference? I know I should be happy and excited by the fact that Noel is putting out 2 albums at once (one of which with 18 (!) songs!) BUT no, I'm not, the only thing I can think of is how messed up everything really is. Noel is full of bullshit. I don't get how people are just blindy believing what he's saying and taking his version of the story for a fact. Maybe there's truth in there but WE DON'T KNOW. And I'm not just bashing Noel cause neither do we know if what Liam says is the truth or not. And what's his problem with Andy? Seriously, Andy hasn't said a single bad word about Noel in public. NOT A SINGLE ONE. And now Noel is giving him a really hard time.. And what for? For not intervening in a discussion in between Gallaghers? I wouldn't do it either. I think no one would. Cause it's just them 2 fools having a major problem with each other and that's it. Well, I'm happy it's over. I hope they will never ever reunite. Perhaps Andy said bad words about Noel in private? We don't know what happened between Noel and Andy. Everyone get over it. I think the fact Andy never seemingly contacted Noel after the fight whereas Gem apparently did could have been a factor too. Anyway, I don't see what he said that was so bad about Andy. |
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Post by Praetor on Jul 7, 2011 15:35:16 GMT -5
Uh...then how is he full of shit? I think he has a better understanding of what occurred than you or any other fan that wasn't there.
He's indifferent with Andy because he just sat there during the fight, passively staring at his shoes. Shows an inherent lack of character to not step in to even try to settle things down after playing with them for a decade.
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 7, 2011 15:48:01 GMT -5
I'm not upset at all. I think you're being way too emotional songbirdsally.
They're just petty brothers fighting over something stupid.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 7, 2011 15:51:18 GMT -5
I'm not upset at all. I think you're being way too emotional songbirdsally. They're just petty brothers fighting over something stupid. she's a woman, women are emotional, not to mention, crazy. p.s. i'm still happy you're happy, songbirdsally. |
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Post by gefe on Jul 7, 2011 15:57:07 GMT -5
honestly i dont see any substantial difference between noels and liams versions, so i dont understand why so many people is saying we believe "one" or the other
and im assuming andy never got involved in any of the discussions, i think noel did not say what he said based ONLY on this one
who the fuck is andy bell?
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 7, 2011 16:06:48 GMT -5
And what did Noel even say about Andy anyway?? Only that he was looking at his shoes and didn't say anything while the fight was happening, which is just a simple fact, and very believable.
But from the way the people on here are acting and all the threads here about it, you would think the headline in the paper was "NOEL HAS PRESS CONFERENCE, CALLS ANDY BELL SATAN"
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Post by gefe on Jul 7, 2011 16:13:53 GMT -5
And what did Noel even say about Andy anyway?? Only that he was looking at his shoes and didn't say anything while the fight was happening, which is just a simple fact, and very believable. almost at the end he says something like, "my friends in the band, gem and chris", "havent seen/spoken to the other two" still i dont see noel been rude or anything towards andy |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 7, 2011 16:15:00 GMT -5
And what did Noel even say about Andy anyway?? Only that he was looking at his shoes and didn't say anything while the fight was happening, which is just a simple fact, and very believable. But from the way the people on here are acting and all the threads here about it, you would think the headline in the paper was "NOEL HAS PRESS CONFERENCE, CALLS ANDY BELL SATAN" that's a very valid point. Noel spoke about the break-up in his conference for a few minutes, was articulate and didn't show any of the signs that he was lying. then there's Liam's account, which is and was very minimal, probably because he doesn't really remember the incident because of being drunk. i mean, i don't really care. i'm only commenting on what i've read and seen. for christ sake, i'm 33. i don't get into the stupid picking sides bullshit. what is this elementary school? |
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Jul 7, 2011 17:21:59 GMT -5
I'm not upset at all. I think you're being way too emotional songbirdsally. she's a woman, women are emotional, not to mention, crazy. Lol. Agreed  Espescially when they get unexpected company of Aunt Flo and cousin Red...  |
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Post by ctmazin on Jul 7, 2011 17:47:37 GMT -5
It baffles me how someone could watch that press conference--where Noel was as measured, humble and funny as I can remember him being, and get all bent out of shape.
Just goes to confirm my continuing belief that people will get their arses in a knot no matter what is put in front of them.
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Post by kimallenbewick on Jul 7, 2011 19:03:31 GMT -5
Is anyone else still upset by this press conference? I know I should be happy and excited by the fact that Noel is putting out 2 albums at once (one of which with 18 (!) songs!) BUT no, I'm not, the only thing I can think of is how messed up everything really is. Noel is full of bullshit. I don't get how people are just blindy believing what he's saying and taking his version of the story for a fact. Maybe there's truth in there but WE DON'T KNOW. And I'm not just bashing Noel cause neither do we know if what Liam says is the truth or not. And what's his problem with Andy? Seriously, Andy hasn't said a single bad word about Noel in public. NOT A SINGLE ONE. And now Noel is giving him a really hard time.. And what for? For not intervening in a discussion in between Gallaghers? I wouldn't do it either. I think no one would. Cause it's just them 2 fools having a major problem with each other and that's it. Well, I'm happy it's over. I hope they will never ever reunite. Why people who believe Noel's version have to be blind? Maybe you are the one who's blind... You don't know what happened for sure so you can't say Noel is ''full of shit'' cause maybe he's not. |
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Post by cushy on Jul 7, 2011 19:27:42 GMT -5
Is anyone else still upset by this press conference? I know I should be happy and excited by the fact that Noel is putting out 2 albums at once (one of which with 18 (!) songs!) BUT no, I'm not, the only thing I can think of is how messed up everything really is. Noel is full of bullshit. I don't get how people are just blindy believing what he's saying and taking his version of the story for a fact. Maybe there's truth in there but WE DON'T KNOW. And I'm not just bashing Noel cause neither do we know if what Liam says is the truth or not. And what's his problem with Andy? Seriously, Andy hasn't said a single bad word about Noel in public. NOT A SINGLE ONE. And now Noel is giving him a really hard time.. And what for? For not intervening in a discussion in between Gallaghers? I wouldn't do it either. I think no one would. Cause it's just them 2 fools having a major problem with each other and that's it. Well, I'm happy it's over. I hope they will never ever reunite. Why people who believe Noel's version have to be blind? Maybe you are the one who's blind... You don't know what happened for sure so you can't say Noel is ''full of shit'' cause maybe he's not. I think she meant that in general Noel is full of shit, which I have to agree with when he does interviews. |
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Post by masterplan200 on Jul 7, 2011 21:01:47 GMT -5
Is anyone else still upset by this press conference? I know I should be happy and excited by the fact that Noel is putting out 2 albums at once Not to troll, but is Noel aware the only person to succeed doing this is Devin Townsend? |
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Post by deasy on Jul 7, 2011 21:06:36 GMT -5
Is anyone else still upset by this press conference? I know I should be happy and excited by the fact that Noel is putting out 2 albums at once Not to troll, but is Noel aware the only person to succeed doing this is Devin Townsend? What? Many artists have done this. Some have even released 2 albums on the same day. Noel releasing 2 albums around 9 months apart isn't overly unusual. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 7, 2011 21:47:57 GMT -5
Right. That's it. I'm going to grab the nearest guitar now. I did warn you.
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Post by GIMH on Jul 8, 2011 6:53:23 GMT -5
Is anyone else still upset by this press conference? I know I should be happy and excited by the fact that Noel is putting out 2 albums at once Not to troll, but is Noel aware the only person to succeed doing this is Devin Townsend? Um heard of Use Your Illusion? Sold bucketloads, and was supported by a monsterous world tour? |
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Post by agnhi on Jul 8, 2011 7:28:04 GMT -5
It baffles me how someone could watch that press conference--where Noel was as measured, humble and funny as I can remember him being, and get all bent out of shape. I love the man I really do. But he's always had a way of sounding genuine and funny while only telling a half truth and slipping in remarks that are kind of unnecessarily and surely never contributed towards peaceful relationship between him and Liam. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Jul 8, 2011 12:35:16 GMT -5
It baffles me how someone could watch that press conference--where Noel was as measured, humble and funny as I can remember him being, and get all bent out of shape. I love the man I really do. But he's always had a way of sounding genuine and funny while only telling a half truth and slipping in remarks that are kind of unnecessarily and surely never contributed towards peaceful relationship between him and Liam. This is what I'm on about! I love the guy too (obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be here!) but I can't stand this. He's calling a fucking press conference to give his opinion. Why was this necessary? Now the whole world nows HIS opinion. Again. With the statement being the first one. Ofcourse almost all casual Oasis fans will put ALL blame on Liam. Just today I ment a friend of mine, who isn't a fan of Oasis but knows them through me. We went to see Beady Eye together last weekend on a festival. Today she came to me (she read something about noels solo stuff) and said "Hey, I like that other Oasis brother better. Cause the one we saw swinged with his guitar like an axe and tried to kill the other one". Just saying but that's how casual fans (which is 99% of the fans) get to hear the story. They don't listen to each single interview Liam gives to find out his side of the story. And that's what bothers me. |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 8, 2011 12:42:25 GMT -5
I love the man I really do. But he's always had a way of sounding genuine and funny while only telling a half truth and slipping in remarks that are kind of unnecessarily and surely never contributed towards peaceful relationship between him and Liam. This is what I'm on about! I love the guy too (obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be here!) but I can't stand this. He's calling a fucking press conference to give his opinion. Why was this necessary? Now the whole world nows HIS opinion. Again. With the statement being the first one. Ofcourse almost all casual Oasis fans will put ALL blame on Liam. Just today I ment a friend of mine, who isn't a fan of Oasis but knows them through me. We went to see Beady Eye together last weekend on a festival. Today she came to me (she read something about noels solo stuff) and said "Hey, I like that other Oasis brother better. Cause the one we saw swinged with his guitar like an axe and tried to kill the other one". Just saying but that's how casual fans (which is 99% of the fans) get to hear the story. They don't listen to each single interview Liam gives to find out his side of the story. And that's what bothers me. No matter if he did it in a press conference or released a statement or in an interview, others would have pick if on it. Including casual Oasis fans. Either way he would have been criticized. If he had released a statement like earlier, then most would have complained about him not answering questions. If he had slated Liam in an interview then people still would have been disappointed in it. As a matter of fact, if he had not talked about it at all, many would have questioned. Including those who for a long time thought that because Noel wouldn't answer questions, that that proved his guilt. Was there really any good way he could have handled this. I don't know. But I do know that whatever way he handled it, it would have had its own consequences. So to say that Noel holding a press conference has caused regular Oasis fans against Liam, is being to simplistic. Especially, when the same result could have happened if he had not held a press conference. I think it just irks that he had a press conference. And I personally don't think that it would have mattered what setting he divulged his information. Either way, there would have been consequences and people questioning him. |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 8, 2011 12:56:18 GMT -5
Just to sum up that book that I wrote up there.
The presentation of the information doesn't matter. It's the information. If Noel had said the same thing that he said in that press conference in statement or interview form, it would have became big news anyways. All Noel did was make the transfer information easier. But it's not like he said something that wouldn't have been up by major papers anyways. To complain about having a press conference is a moot point.
The presentation of information doesn't matter. It's the information.
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Post by gefe on Jul 8, 2011 12:59:33 GMT -5
but Noel never called a press conference to give his opinion, he did it to talk about his album!!!
if the journalists never asked about it, im sure he would never have said a thing until another interview or something....although it was obvious they were going to ask about the incident.
so what was he supposed to do??? answer: "I do not want to talk about it, Im here to talk about my new record" ? Everbody would have crtiticized him for not saying a word, call him a coward, that he may be a liar or whatever.
probably he saw a chance of maybe saying it ONCE at a press conference and luckily he wont be ask again about it, or at least not as much
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Post by spaneli on Jul 8, 2011 13:09:21 GMT -5
Like I said, whether he had a press conference or not doesn't matter. Did anyone really care about the idea of a press conference. No. People wanted info. The info made the press conference important, not the other way around. If Noel had only talked about album info, I don't think anyone would have cared that there was a press conference to announce it. But because information about the breakup, then the event gained importance. Without the info, not many people would have cared about the actual event.
The information about the album and the breakup made the event important, not the event.
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Espescially when they get unexpected company of Aunt Flo and cousin Red... 
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