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Post by spaneli on May 8, 2011 13:43:15 GMT -5
I have not and did not say that the quality of the video is dependent on Noel being in it or not. If I have said that, then please point that out.
Secondly, I'll I'm arguing is that its just protocol for a person to be in their debut video. If he's not going to be in the video, and as some have said that a video is almost use less for promotion, then don't do a video. Which is what I said from the beginong, but apparently no one on this forum reads previous posts in a thread.
Of course Noel being in there or not does not count toward the quality of the video. But protocol is that this is his debut video, hence he should probably be in it. If he's not in it, and there's no promotional value, then don't do the video.
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Post by bluemagpie on May 8, 2011 13:55:10 GMT -5
As long as he's in it, I don't care if he's front and center. And of course the other issue here is when we can hear the damn song -- anyone know how long after filming these things are normally released? It was pretty quick with BTL.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on May 8, 2011 14:01:53 GMT -5
I found it very weird that he would record a video without even announcing that he is, in fact, releasing a solo album.
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Post by spaneli on May 8, 2011 14:09:10 GMT -5
Its usually no more than 2 months. Which is weird of this is true. Because of course, non of this has been confirmed. Though we have been hearing about a single in maybe early August, with an album in mid-September. So that does come pretty close to the timeline that we think he'll follow.
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Post by kenneth on May 8, 2011 14:20:05 GMT -5
Noel would have to dress up in bra and thong with his arse cheeks hanging out whilst beating up a priest for it to have any kind of impact these days. Just look at Lady Gaga or Rihanna, if your prancing around in pants with your gash hanging out the sides then the kids might just actually watch it. Lol lol lol!!! With Quentin Tarantino directing it of course xD No but seriousley, if this is true, they might actually go for a Stop Crying Your Heart Out type video. Film some parts with actors out in the desert, and they can film Noel sit drinking coffee in his living room. It's real easy! |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on May 8, 2011 14:24:44 GMT -5
I found it very weird that he would record a video without even announcing that he is, in fact, releasing a solo album. Good point...BDI set up their official website in May (?), 9 months before the album. Then again Liam always had a big mouth...I bet Noel's going to surprise us all by making the first official announcement a month before the album release ;D |
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Post by songbirdsally on May 8, 2011 14:55:26 GMT -5
I found it very weird that he would record a video without even announcing that he is, in fact, releasing a solo album. Good point...BDI set up their official website in May (?), 9 months before the album. Then again Liam always had a big mouth...I bet Noel's going to surprise us all by making the first official announcement a month before the album release ;D Not that it would really surprise us cause we all know it's going to happen  It's just a matter of 'when'. And even then, if you think logically you can quite predict that it would have to be late summer or fall.. |
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Post by shoofee on May 8, 2011 16:31:43 GMT -5
I have not and did not say that the quality of the video is dependent on Noel being in it or not. If I have said that, then please point that out. Nor was I or anyone else arguing against or for his inclusion in it physically in regards to quality. live4ever.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=factsandfiction&thread=66369&post=851026Your exact quote: And again live4ever.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=factsandfiction&thread=66369&post=851028For the 17th time, he does not "have to" be in it. There is no protocol for a video of a relatively known commodity. Again, Noel's biggest market is the UK, where he is ubiquitous. The American market is secondary to him, just as it is to Beady Eye, so this formal introduction you are seemingly crowing about is irrelevant to Noel Gallagher. I'm not saying he should or shouldnt be in it which is besides the point. The only aspect I'm arguing against is your insistence that he NEEDS to. Its not a necessity and isn't going to break him or make him commercially because he's in a 4 minute promotional video. Noel's demographic is older now. Its not teenagers like it was back in Oasis' hey day when they were mainstream. Does anyone here still watch videos regularly and make a music purchasing decision off of one aside from rare chances you run into something randomly? For me, the only time I watch videos is when Im looking up an act. I dont care about even my favorite artists' videos anymore because they're purely commercials and nothing more aside from rare instances when they're elevated to their own artform. The only videos that matter anymore are for acts with albums near the top of the charts. Gaga's videos are a big deal. Noel's won't be. Your entire argument for this singular point is subjective and is no way indicative of a success or failure. There's not even a historical or prior instance where someone being in a video did them any harm or good. The song is what will lure new listeners in or bring casuals back to this particular (Oasis fans) circle. The more likely chance of a success with a video is something which is unique that can go viral. It doesnt mean Noel shouldnt be in it, it just means that he doesnt have to, which you seem to be insistent upon. |
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Post by discworld on May 8, 2011 16:46:15 GMT -5
If the video is done, when are we going to know the title of his first single ?
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Post by King Blougaredoc on May 8, 2011 17:18:01 GMT -5
Looks like Noel´s video is imminent
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Post by spaneli on May 8, 2011 17:20:18 GMT -5
If the video is done, when are we going to know the title of his first single ? We would probably know the name of the single, I would guess a month before the release. So if we go by the concieved timeline, I would guess early-late July. Can't really see it being any sooner. Unless we get someone like theriddler to fill us in somewhat. Like with Bring The Light. |
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Post by Bellboy on May 8, 2011 18:45:03 GMT -5
Good news!
I am more interested in what the song is like, no doubt there will be a mix of styles on the album. It's not going to be all Noel playing acoustic songs and I doubt the video will be based around him, he will feature but around the theme of the song/video story line probably.
Looks good for a September release though if true :-)
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Post by gdforever on May 8, 2011 19:21:27 GMT -5
Another thing we need to remember is Noel is getting married this summer. I know he has been with Sara for a decade...but considering how much he loves a holiday I wouldn't put it past him to go on a honeymoon before the album hype really heats up.
I'm think late summer is a pretty good bet. I hope he does at least a couple singles before the album.
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Post by manualex on May 8, 2011 20:23:58 GMT -5
August 21 anyone?  |
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Post by gdforever on May 8, 2011 21:16:46 GMT -5
LOL...start laying wager everyone.
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Post by paranoidandroid on May 9, 2011 3:32:22 GMT -5
wet with excitement!
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Post by ashleigh on May 9, 2011 5:24:14 GMT -5
Not bothered in the slightest about the video it could be a blank screen for 3 and a half minutes for all i care just looking forward to hearing the tune if this is true
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Post by wrbush31 on May 9, 2011 9:56:38 GMT -5
I don't know any details around this, but I do know that Marcus Russell says he's been spending more of his time working on Noel's solo project than he has on Beady Eye and Satin Peaches. I don't know about the video, but I do know that the "machine" is well in motion for Noel so it's entirely possible that there's video work going on.
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Post by oneeye on May 9, 2011 10:43:48 GMT -5
Looks like Noel´s video is imminent still could easily be 2-3 months away - which is probably a good gues-timate ;D |
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Post by Heebeejeebies on May 9, 2011 11:36:27 GMT -5
I think you are a bit confused. Spaneli is the one saying that he is going to have to be front and center in the video. He is saying that he can't just do a tiny part. I suggested that probably he could do a smaller cameo appearance or a video small snippet while something else takes the main focus.
No, you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not saying what I think Noel COULD do, I am saying what I think he WILL do. I said "I tend to agree with Spaneli, though", which means I don't agree with him completely.
As for the power of the Internet. That is the point...and artist doesn't make a massive impact on the internet because he has a name. A big artist used to be able to get airtime and people WOULD see their videos because they played on a TV station. The Internet is viewer driven. If nobody thinks it's interesting, people that aren't already fans won't make a point to watch it. The Internet could really work in Noel's favor if something he did went viral...and Noel's simply preforming isn't going to go viral.
You're making a false assumption here. You're assuming that Noel's video will be uninteresting to everyone except his hardcore fans, which I very much doubt will be true. He is a brilliant musician, and I have yet to meet a person who has heard some of his music and hated it. People are capable of linking their friends to things they like, which is how videos are spread on the internet. If Noel's music interests people, they will share it... and they (the sharers) may very well be people who are new to his music, especially if the video is featured prominently on music websites. The internet has advertising too, and can put things in people's faces just like TV, only on the net people have more options as to what they will allow the "station" to play for them.
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Post by gdforever on May 9, 2011 11:58:52 GMT -5
I think you are a bit confused. Spaneli is the one saying that he is going to have to be front and center in the video. He is saying that he can't just do a tiny part. I suggested that probably he could do a smaller cameo appearance or a video small snippet while something else takes the main focus.No, you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not saying what I think Noel COULD do, I am saying what I think he WILL do. I said "I tend to agree with Spaneli, though", which means I don't agree with him completely. As for the power of the Internet. That is the point...and artist doesn't make a massive impact on the internet because he has a name. A big artist used to be able to get airtime and people WOULD see their videos because they played on a TV station. The Internet is viewer driven. If nobody thinks it's interesting, people that aren't already fans won't make a point to watch it. The Internet could really work in Noel's favor if something he did went viral...and Noel's simply preforming isn't going to go viral.You're making a false assumption here. You're assuming that Noel's video will be uninteresting to everyone except his hardcore fans, which I very much doubt will be true. He is a brilliant musician, and I have yet to meet a person who has heard some of his music and hated it. People are capable of linking their friends to things they like, which is how videos are spread on the internet. If Noel's music interests people, they will share it... and they (the sharers) may very well be people who are new to his music, especially if the video is featured prominently on music websites. The internet has advertising too, and can put things in people's faces just like TV, only on the net people have more options as to what they will allow the "station" to play for them. Read the rest of the thread. I just think that the success of the video will depending very little on whether or not Noel is front and center. The music will sell itself to a certain extent...but a striking visual can't hurt. If people show it to others because it looks awesome or cool as well as just because the song is good the more successful promotional video will have been. If Noel is prominent in the striking visual fine...but I doubt he will be. He's never liked featuring in videos...I think he'll have pick the concept presented to him that requires the least amount of his presence/effort. No one is arguing that people won't listen to the song or watch the video if the video isn't amazing. But a visually stunning video is good marketing IMO. The only thing I disagree with spaneli about is that Noel NEEDS to be present prominently in the video. Maybe he will, may he won't, but neither will make that much a difference IMO |
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Post by bonkers on May 9, 2011 12:54:25 GMT -5
nito serna has now deleted his twitter account, too many requests sent me thinks!!!
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Post by deasy on May 9, 2011 13:42:50 GMT -5
nito serna has now deleted his twitter account, too many requests sent me thinks!!! Couldn't hack the fame. Just like I couldn't hack his twitter  |
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Post by bluemagpie on May 9, 2011 14:30:19 GMT -5
Just read the actual message again -- I'm intrigued by his mention of "epic camera" and "technocrane". As a technocrane is one of these, this could be a pretty impressive video. |
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Post by aaronon on May 9, 2011 14:45:29 GMT -5
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It's just a matter of 'when'. And even then, if you think logically you can quite predict that it would have to be late summer or fall..
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