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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jun 10, 2011 4:46:58 GMT -5
you won't find another "big" band on earth whose vocalist is so regularly (everyone has an off night here or there) torn apart (and rightfully so) by its own fans than oasis/bdi. the fact that some think this (3 ring) and for anyone is a great/amazing vocal speaks volumes in regards to some's dream-like critique of liam's ability to sing a 3 minute rock/pop song. parts of 3 ring are fkn dreadful- some of it's decent. nothing more. for anyone is 95% fucking abysmal. I for one have long given up on the notion of attending a liam-authored concert and not having him all-but butcher at least half the songs. as a well-tenured vocalist myself, it's an insult to a lot of beautiful voices out there who can actually do what's he's raping to death. it truly pains me to say it, but some of his moments are the most offensive sounds ever produced by a human voice. lyla anyone? truth hurts. |
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Post by wonderplan on Jun 10, 2011 7:21:47 GMT -5
some here just can't seem to enjoy things for what they are. I've never understood why ppl are so critical & over analyze liam's vocal performances. He isn't 21 anymore & neither are any of you who saw him back in the 90's so please stop comparing things to the glory days. IMHO he sounds good on these new songs & that's all that really matters. Come the 18th i will be in heaven seeing my new favorite band & singing along word for word just as I did in the Oasis days. It's rock n' roll not glee/x-factor/american idol
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 10, 2011 10:01:56 GMT -5
you won't find another "big" band on earth whose vocalist is so regularly (everyone has an off night here or there) torn apart (and rightfully so) by its own fans than oasis/bdi. the fact that some think this (3 ring) and for anyone is a great/amazing vocal speaks volumes in regards to some's dream-like critique of liam's ability to sing a 3 minute rock/pop song. parts of 3 ring are fkn dreadful- some of it's decent. nothing more. for anyone is 95% fucking abysmal. I for one have long given up on the notion of attending a liam-authored concert and not having him all-but butcher at least half the songs. as a well-tenured vocalist myself, it's an insult to a lot of beautiful voices out there who can actually do what's he's raping to death. it truly pains me to say it, but some of his moments are the most offensive sounds ever produced by a human voice. lyla anyone? truth hurts. With a seemingly high opinion of your own vocal talents, why don't you upload some of own stuff and we can put it under the same scrutiny Liam's voice is on a regular basis. If you have not been to any of the gigs then you can't really appreciate him not having 'all-but butcher at least half the songs'. As I said before, in general he has sang well this tour with a voice he seems far more at ease with and FA aside all of them are within his limits. Its a new voice but that doesn't mean its a bad one. For example would I swap Dylan singing 'Things Have Changed' with a 60 year old voice with the Dylan voice of the 1970's? Not a chance. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 10, 2011 11:32:33 GMT -5
He is sounding awesome there on KFAD in Russia from the other day, it has to be said
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 10, 2011 11:51:59 GMT -5
As for the vocal debate: Of course Liam isn't up to the standards of his peak performances, but we shouldn't expect that for reasons already addressed on here. He's sounding fine so far live with BDI, and did a solid enough job for most of the DOYS tour. His bad moments really came out on the DBTT tour when he channeled his inner Kermit.
Who can forget his performance at the iTunes Festival in 2009? That performance of CS is the best of recent memory.
And anyway, most people say that when you're actually at the gig you don't really notice if his voice is good or bad, and gig goers proclaim that it's not as bad as it may seem on video. Lets not forget that these are bootlegs, not high professional recordings.
I'm seeing them on June 25th. What matters to me is seeing them live and having a great experience. I couldn't care if Liam isn't sounding like he did in the 90s when I attend. Seeing a band live is multifaceted, and doesn't just solely depend on the lead singer's vocals. Give me good tunes, a meaningful connection with the band, and a great atmosphere, and a solid enough overall performance and I'd be pleased.
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Post by mark17188 on Jun 10, 2011 12:43:18 GMT -5
It's not that he can't sing for anyone, but for some reason he chooses to sing reallt loudly with that ridiculous style that he has of singing. It worked in the 90's until his vocal cords began shedding away thanks to it. You can tell he doesn't put half as much throat power into his singing as he used to do, which is good and you can see the benefits.
Try singing like liam; if you can sing you'll notice that you might sound great, but your throat will be hurting within the hour.
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Post by rcknrollstar on Jun 10, 2011 15:23:34 GMT -5
Like NL4E says, if you're there, you don't really notice if he's singing well or not. When I watched so me footage of the Paradiso gig back, that's when I heard it wasn't all that great, but didn't really notice it live, because I was going nuts all over.
Obviously you can go and remain at the back, enjoying the music. But you just can't expect mindblowing vocals from Liam. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. You're just gonna have to accept that.
Rock 'n' Roll doesn't fit nicely sung vocals anyway. It needs to be a bit rough.
Here's a couple of clips of the best band of the Netherlands at this moment. The singer can't really sing that well, but it's a brilliant live experience. Great lead guitarist. They're called Go Back To The Zoo. Check them out.
Street Fighting Man (Stones cover)
Beam Me Up
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Post by start at the end on Jun 14, 2011 7:20:13 GMT -5
"Like NL4E says, if you're there, you don't really notice if he's singing well or not."
Unfuckingbelievable...you cannot make this shit up.
The fact that you agree with it is nearly as side-splitting as the statement itself.
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Post by start at the end on Jun 14, 2011 7:27:42 GMT -5
you won't find another "big" band on earth whose vocalist is so regularly (everyone has an off night here or there) torn apart (and rightfully so) by its own fans than oasis/bdi. the fact that some think this (3 ring) and for anyone is a great/amazing vocal speaks volumes in regards to some's dream-like critique of liam's ability to sing a 3 minute rock/pop song. parts of 3 ring are fkn dreadful- some of it's decent. nothing more. for anyone is 95% fucking abysmal. I for one have long given up on the notion of attending a liam-authored concert and not having him all-but butcher at least half the songs. as a well-tenured vocalist myself, it's an insult to a lot of beautiful voices out there who can actually do what's he's raping to death. it truly pains me to say it, but some of his moments are the most offensive sounds ever produced by a human voice. lyla anyone? truth hurts. With a seemingly high opinion of your own vocal talents, why don't you upload some of own stuff and we can put it under the same scrutiny Liam's voice is on a regular basis. If you have not been to any of the gigs then you can't really appreciate him not having 'all-but butcher at least half the songs'. As I said before, in general he has sang well this tour with a voice he seems far more at ease with and FA aside all of them are within his limits. Its a new voice but that doesn't mean its a bad one. For example would I swap Dylan singing 'Things Have Changed' with a 60 year old voice with the Dylan voice of the 1970's? Not a chance. How much bullshit can you squeeze into one post? I can sing. I can sing live. End of dialogue. No, I'm not going to post a clip of me to the world wide web for some dipshit I don't know...not solely because it's daft, but more importatnly, becasue it's pointless. In the end, my own singing abilities have nothing to do with Liam Gallagher. I simply made reference to my own (and others) chops as I believe Liam's bleating may be even more painful for us to absorb. And sure, I haven't been to any concerts in the last 5 yrs where Liam has butchered half the setlist. Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'd post all the known clips of his "singing" from this tour to have you pick out how he has "generally" sung well, but (again) what's the point...it's like telling a brick to drive a car. |
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Post by start at the end on Jun 14, 2011 7:37:46 GMT -5
Agreed with Start at the End. Having said that though, I know from personal experience that the tone of his vocals are the last thing you think of when you're actually at the gig itself. His voice is what it is. Lets not try and dress it up as something its not, as most of the videos posted are horrendous. Why pay attention to the evidence though? We all know: a. it's the "shitty" youtube video/audio quality that's the culprit b. when you're at the concert you're not really listening to the singer of the band anyway. And last: I really don't tend to go on a Liam vocal soapbox. It's only after I hear/read a load of bullshit that I feel inclined to comment. I for one have never believed Liam to be much more than an average singer at any point in the last 17 years. Great voice? Absolutely. But as far a solid, live, vocalist? No way. Was much better earlier, but still very spotty, very often. I was at those concerts too. Now, go ahead and post 3 vids of medicore to good performances to prove me wrong.  |
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Post by gdforever on Jun 14, 2011 9:44:53 GMT -5
I'd just like to point out that all this crap about "Liam only sounds bad because it's a YouTube clip" is a bit suspect. Not saying that the quality is the best...but the idea that the videos all being universally fair to middling at the best doesn't really point to the fact that it's just that everyone just happened to get a really crap audio.
There are plenty of videos of people and band sounding great on crappy YouTube videos. For instance, Noel at the RAH in 2010. All crappy YouTube videos and he sounds just fine.
Maybe some don't notice what a singer sounds like when they go. But I know I notice...and all the people that I have gone to gigs with will always make a comment about the vocalists of the bands we see because it really is the easiest thing for people to judge. The vocals are pretty well front and center in BDI songs...there isn't that much going on outside of them that that get lost in the whirlwind of the music.
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Post by Rolo on Jul 3, 2011 19:36:45 GMT -5
This is even better than the Alan Carr version I think, from tonight's gig.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 3, 2011 20:28:21 GMT -5
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Post by Leezy on Jul 4, 2011 6:11:16 GMT -5
Liams never gonna be able to sing anywhere near as good as he used to back in the mid-late 90s, but really genuinely think, overall his singing on this Beady Eye tour has easily been his best of the past 10 years. Think he's finally realised his voice sounds better when he sings a bit softer and more controlled, always felt that was the problem before but Liam being Liam, he always wanted give it the bollocks and shout his head off when playing live.
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Post by sawdustrings on Jul 5, 2011 19:53:17 GMT -5
The WAAAAA at 5:02 is brilliance.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 5, 2011 20:36:04 GMT -5
Liam sounded great on Isle of Wight.
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Post by Rolo on Aug 17, 2011 18:02:06 GMT -5
Not amazing quality but it's a great version of Bring The Light at Summer Sonic Festival, Liam's voice seems to still be holding up well.
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Post by The Morning Son on Aug 17, 2011 19:02:42 GMT -5
He is singing the song slightly different, especially the 'come on' parts. Wonder if thats just that one night or if he has altered it slightly.
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Post by Rolo on Aug 18, 2011 7:40:57 GMT -5
They sure know how to go for it in Japan!
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Post by space75gr on Aug 23, 2011 13:59:43 GMT -5
Top this its almost better than the album version! |
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Post by starwillshine on Sept 3, 2011 5:12:38 GMT -5
Without a doubt the best live song they have, done just here. Seen them 3 times including this performance and it gets the place moving each time. Love the piano in this song, Old school rock n roll!
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 3, 2011 5:45:15 GMT -5
gotta admit i hate that song, but it's undeniable that it works live. gets people jumping.
their best live song imo is 4LW tho.
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Post by idledreamer on Sept 3, 2011 5:47:13 GMT -5
Top this its almost better than the album version! my favorite version of wigwam (so far) by a country mile  |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Sept 3, 2011 5:51:19 GMT -5
Without a doubt the best live song they have, done just here. Seen them 3 times including this performance and it gets the place moving each time. Love the piano in this song, Old school rock n roll! Don't like the song at all. Can't make it through the whole song on the record, but I managed it this time. Speaks for the live performance! And again, Gem looking great!  |
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Post by jakob61907 on Sept 4, 2011 1:49:57 GMT -5
Liams best For Anyone performance?? from couple of nights ago i think
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The whole gig he sounds friggin good. Guess thats a reason for his latest tweet
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