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Jun 29, 2014 10:30:05 GMT -5
Post by Let It🩸 on Jun 29, 2014 10:30:05 GMT -5
i'm sure Carmelo will eventually tear apart the Bulls if he does go to Chicago like he does with every team he's on but it'll be entertaining til then. ------ just saw on SportsCenter that in Lebron's 11 year career he's never been the highest paid player on any team he's been on, with the Cavs - Ben Wallace, Shaq and Larry Hughes made more money than him and the last four years in Miami, he and Chris Bosh have been tied with the highest salary. God bless. Does it matter when he made $53m off the court last year, not including the $30m he reportedly netted in the Beats sale to Apple? His net worth is about $250m if he's that concerned about being the highest player on the team give home a few bucks more than Bosh to make him happy. the more amazing part of that is he wasn't the highest paid player on the Cavs, wow. God bless. |
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Jun 29, 2014 10:53:06 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jun 29, 2014 10:53:06 GMT -5
Does it matter when he made $53m off the court last year, not including the $30m he reportedly netted in the Beats sale to Apple? His net worth is about $250m if he's that concerned about being the highest player on the team give home a few bucks more than Bosh to make him happy. the more amazing part of that is he wasn't the highest paid player on the Cavs, wow. God bless. That's because the first four years he was on his rookie contract. The next three he made the max that a player with four years could make. So he made less than Ben Wallace for two years and then Shaq who made $20m. I appreciate what Shaq did here in Miami but they unloaded him and that monster contract at the right time. |
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Jun 29, 2014 11:31:22 GMT -5
Post by Let It🩸 on Jun 29, 2014 11:31:22 GMT -5
the more amazing part of that is he wasn't the highest paid player on the Cavs, wow. God bless. That's because the first four years he was on his rookie contract. The next three he made the max that a player with four years could make. So he made less than Ben Wallace for two years and then Shaq who made $20m. I appreciate what Shaq did here in Miami but they unloaded him and that monster contract at the right time. that makes sense... between Ben Wallace and Shaq, they'd make about one free throw out of 100, that's really annoying. supposedly, the taller players are, the harder it is to shoot but i don't buy that, on a lowered rim i find it a lot easier. God bless. |
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Jun 30, 2014 13:22:59 GMT -5
Post by Cast on Jun 30, 2014 13:22:59 GMT -5
I think Melo and the Bulls are the best fit but it would be interesting to see him with the Rockets. Him and Harden just jacking up shots everywhere would be decently entertaining before it would collapse.
Golden State needs to make moves on Kevin Love. Him and Curry running pick and rolls would be beautiful to watch. I think Thompson is a bit over rated. Yeah he does guard opposing teams PGs, and he does have a great shot but they still have Iguodala and they can pick up a nice defensive player. Love would more than make up for the scoring that Klay does. I would just worry about the defensive holds/Curry's ankle falling apart like Grant Hill.
Reports are saying that LBJ wants a Max salary and I don't blame him. He's the best in the game he deserves his $ with or without endorsements. He already faces enough pressure smart of him to put some of that on the teams.
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Jun 30, 2014 14:05:11 GMT -5
Post by Rain on Jun 30, 2014 14:05:11 GMT -5
I think Melo and the Bulls are the best fit but it would be interesting to see him with the Rockets. Him and Harden just jacking up shots everywhere would be decently entertaining before it would collapse. Golden State needs to make moves on Kevin Love. Him and Curry running pick and rolls would be beautiful to watch. I think Thompson is a bit over rated. Yeah he does guard opposing teams PGs, and he does have a great shot but they still have Iguodala and they can pick up a nice defensive player. Love would more than make up for the scoring that Klay does. I would just worry about the defensive holds/Curry's ankle falling apart like Grant Hill. Reports are saying that LBJ wants a Max salary and I don't blame him. He's the best in the game he deserves his $ with or without endorsements. He already faces enough pressure smart of him to put some of that on the teams. LeBron won't win anymore championships because of the max salary he'll end up with. In the end Kobe on paper will be the better player than James. James could end up with the knicks and Melo end up with the Bulls. Phil Jackson wants to make a name for himself and Melo hasn't been the answer. Phil has never shy away from having the best player of the game near him. He had Shaq,kobe,Jordan and Pippen. James wanting max, because he's in his prime and wanting the most before his career is done. In history there's a point where Allen Iverson was the best of the game, but he was max salary player and most teams only can afford one max salary player with role players around. He did not win championships. Anymore a team has to have more than one superstar to win. |
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Jul 2, 2014 22:27:54 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jul 2, 2014 22:27:54 GMT -5
I think Melo and the Bulls are the best fit but it would be interesting to see him with the Rockets. Him and Harden just jacking up shots everywhere would be decently entertaining before it would collapse. Golden State needs to make moves on Kevin Love. Him and Curry running pick and rolls would be beautiful to watch. I think Thompson is a bit over rated. Yeah he does guard opposing teams PGs, and he does have a great shot but they still have Iguodala and they can pick up a nice defensive player. Love would more than make up for the scoring that Klay does. I would just worry about the defensive holds/Curry's ankle falling apart like Grant Hill. Reports are saying that LBJ wants a Max salary and I don't blame him. He's the best in the game he deserves his $ with or without endorsements. He already faces enough pressure smart of him to put some of that on the teams. It's just going to be difficult to make the math work. If LBJ wants the max and gets it, it makes it near impossible to sign young talent. Loul Deng has already said he won't lower his market value to sign with the Heat. They just missed out on Lowry and will continue to miss out because they just don't have the future cap space to give competitive offers to young stars and role players. It's going to be difficult for them to attract anyone but the aging player or bounce back from injury guy they've been attracting. Which makes sense because players like Lowry and Deng aren't Wade or Bosh or LBJ. The bulk of their money is made on the court, not in endorsement deals. They can't afford to take paycuts to win, unlike a bounce back player who's playing for a new contract or an aging vet who has already made his money. They'll need Bosh and Wade to not just take paycuts, but major paycuts. More, than they're probably willing to take in order to revamp the bench and keep LBJ. They essentially couldn't afford for either to make more than 12 mill. per year. Anything more than that and the math doesn't work....and even that is them scrapping by to have enough. Essentially, there aren't many people out there who present clear upgrade that can be got for bargain prices. That's the difficulty of trying to get clear upgrades, it requires money. Money, the Heat don't have. |
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Jul 2, 2014 22:44:35 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 2, 2014 22:44:35 GMT -5
All I have to say is.  |
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Jul 3, 2014 5:47:47 GMT -5
Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jul 3, 2014 5:47:47 GMT -5
Rondo leaving Boston rumours again. Think he will go to Miami or Brooklyn personally, just stop dragging it on.
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Jul 3, 2014 9:45:14 GMT -5
Post by Let It🩸 on Jul 3, 2014 9:45:14 GMT -5
New York.
God bless.
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Jul 4, 2014 7:32:48 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 4, 2014 7:32:48 GMT -5
Brian Whindbag and Chris Broussard are the worst reporters in sports per my sources.
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Jul 5, 2014 11:51:18 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jul 5, 2014 11:51:18 GMT -5
Some interesting points from Adrian Wojnarowski:
"Biggest issue for Miami could be this: How does it meet Bosh salary desires, and keep any real space for free agents? Crunch time for Riley."
"If LeBron James wants a short-term deal in Miami, why would Bosh commit long-term at a steep discount -- only to get left behind later?"
"For agents negotiating on free agents w/ Heat, so far impossible to get concrete offers b/c Riley doesn't have precise figures on Bosh-Wade."
"This is an unprecedented dynamic in free agency history. Heat's walking a wild tight-rope. If anyone can pull it off, it's Pat Riley."
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Jul 5, 2014 11:56:13 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 5, 2014 11:56:13 GMT -5
Some interesting points from Adrian Wojnarowski: "Biggest issue for Miami could be this: How does it meet Bosh salary desires, and keep any real space for free agents? Crunch time for Riley." "If LeBron James wants a short-term deal in Miami, why would Bosh commit long-term at a steep discount -- only to get left behind later?" "For agents negotiating on free agents w/ Heat, so far impossible to get concrete offers b/c Riley doesn't have precise figures on Bosh-Wade." You forgot the most important one |
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Jul 5, 2014 11:56:36 GMT -5
Post by Let It🩸 on Jul 5, 2014 11:56:36 GMT -5
this is the plan i've heard: Carmelo re-signs with the Knicks, Lebron re-signs with the Heat for a two-year contract with a player option after one year. if the Heat don't win the championship next year, Lebron goes to New York.
God bless.
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Jul 5, 2014 12:01:41 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jul 5, 2014 12:01:41 GMT -5
Some interesting points from Adrian Wojnarowski: "Biggest issue for Miami could be this: How does it meet Bosh salary desires, and keep any real space for free agents? Crunch time for Riley." "If LeBron James wants a short-term deal in Miami, why would Bosh commit long-term at a steep discount -- only to get left behind later?" "For agents negotiating on free agents w/ Heat, so far impossible to get concrete offers b/c Riley doesn't have precise figures on Bosh-Wade." You forgot the most important one No I didn't. Look at my above. He also just posted this: "Meanwhile, Rockets, Cavs pushing closer to creating max contract slots. Deals lined up for Jeremy Lin. Cavs shopping Jarrett Jack w/ a pick." |
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Jul 5, 2014 12:05:39 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jul 5, 2014 12:05:39 GMT -5
Mark Stein just posted:
"We've gotten to the point in free agency where some teams in pursuit think LeBron is more likely to leave than Melo. Stunning turn of events"
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Jul 5, 2014 12:09:34 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 5, 2014 12:09:34 GMT -5
You forgot the most important one No I didn't. Look at my above. He also just posted this: "Meanwhile, Rockets, Cavs pushing closer to creating max contract slots. Deals lined up for Jeremy Lin. Cavs shopping Jarrett Jack w/ a pick." You must have been editing your as I posted mine. Woj is the only NBA reporter that i take credence in what they say. Broussard, Whindworst, and Bucher are all about the clicks. They post rumors as facts. Until LBJ and Bosh sign else where I'm 100% confident they resign w/ Miami. |
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Jul 5, 2014 12:16:22 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jul 5, 2014 12:16:22 GMT -5
Woj:
"Chris Bosh's reps have made recent calls on market to reconfirm that max slots would be available to him, sources tell Yahoo. Answers: Yes."
I've been saying for sometime that Bosh is more of the wildcard than LeBron.
The only difference is I thought LeBron would be taking a pay-cut, so Bosh might not have to take too much of a cut. But if reports a true that Bosh isn't willing to take much of a cut, then the math really doesn't add up.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:19:22 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 5, 2014 22:19:22 GMT -5
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Jul 6, 2014 9:24:37 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 6, 2014 9:24:37 GMT -5
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Post by Sternumman on Jul 7, 2014 6:35:37 GMT -5
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Post by Cast on Jul 7, 2014 9:01:59 GMT -5
No I didn't. Look at my above. He also just posted this: "Meanwhile, Rockets, Cavs pushing closer to creating max contract slots. Deals lined up for Jeremy Lin. Cavs shopping Jarrett Jack w/ a pick." You must have been editing your as I posted mine. Woj is the only NBA reporter that i take credence in what they say. Broussard, Whindworst, and Bucher are all about the clicks. They post rumors as facts. Until LBJ and Bosh sign else where I'm 100% confident they resign w/ Miami. Agreed. They are all coattail riders of these superstars. Really horrible reporters. I can also believe Zach Lowe of Grantland. He is more of an analysis of the game itself but he knows a bit of stuff with regard to nba front offices at their motives/options. |
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Jul 7, 2014 10:51:33 GMT -5
Post by Let It🩸 on Jul 7, 2014 10:51:33 GMT -5
to be fair, i don't even think Lebron knows what he's doing yet. his agent is supposedly pushing for Cleveland, Dan Gilbert's open letter on the Cavs website after "the decision" has been taken down, he's meeting with Pat Riley in coming days, etc.
no solid info was released in 2010 prior to Lebron signing with the Heat til the morning of the announcement. i'm sure some of the reporters know more than they're saying but they probably don't wanna lose the trust of the players by releasing info.
personally, i think Lebron will resign with the Heat. the Cavs are too much of question mark at this point... and if the Heat don't win the championship next year then Lebron will probably go back to Cleveland, depending on the Cavs progress this coming year or maybe go to New York.
God bless.
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Jul 7, 2014 19:55:09 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 7, 2014 19:55:09 GMT -5
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Jul 7, 2014 21:30:17 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jul 7, 2014 21:30:17 GMT -5
Can't remember a player falling off the map as quickly as Granger. Heat probably hoping he can find his magic again playing around great players, but I know when he was with the Los Angeles Clippers he looked like a guy whose career was done (and that was around Blake Griffin and Chris Paul). It seems like Riley will go after guys like Granger and and a solid big man like McRoberts. I don't know if Granger presents a significant upgrade, I don't know if he's better at this point in his career than Ray Allen (that's saying something). However, I think McRoberts is a nice addition over Battier and Oden. However, with these contracts, I still wonder how much Bosh specifically is willing to cut his salary because that's the only way the money works. The McRoberts deal is essentially their mid-level exception. That eliminates them from someone like Pau Gasol or Luol Deng, Gasol especially. With the mid-level gone, the Heat having Napier (1 mill. cap hit) and Norris Cole (2 mill. for this season) under contract, and Granger agreeing to a 2-year 4.2 mill deal, there's not much room for Riley to upgrade without asking players to take the minimum, which to fill his bench he's going to have to ask two players to do. All of that is with the hope that LeBron likes what he sees, signs his max deal, and Wade takes less enough so it placates Bosh. The issue right now is I think McRoberts and Granger are the best Riley can get before he hits up vets looking for rings who are willing to sign for the minimum. I still believe Bosh might be the likeliest to leave, especially now that he just received a max offer from Houston. Wade is stuck where he's at. LeBron can really only go to a couple of places. Nevertheless, Bosh is probably the Heat player with the most options at this point and the most to lose in terms of dollars. |
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Jul 8, 2014 3:27:11 GMT -5
Post by Sternumman on Jul 8, 2014 3:27:11 GMT -5
Can't remember a player falling off the map as quickly as Granger. Heat probably hoping he can find his magic again playing around great players, but I know when he was with the Los Angeles Clippers he looked like a guy whose career was done (and that was around Blake Griffin and Chris Paul). It seems like Riley will go after guys like Granger and and a solid big man like McRoberts. I don't know if Granger presents a significant upgrade, I don't know if he's better at this point in his career than Ray Allen (that's saying something). However, I think McRoberts is a nice addition over Battier and Oden. However, with these contracts, I still wonder how much Bosh specifically is willing to cut his salary because that's the only way the money works. The McRoberts deal is essentially their mid-level exception. That eliminates them from someone like Pau Gasol or Luol Deng, Gasol especially. With the mid-level gone, the Heat having Napier (1 mill. cap hit) and Norris Cole (2 mill. for this season) under contract, and Granger agreeing to a 2-year 4.2 mill deal, there's not much room for Riley to upgrade without asking players to take the minimum, which to fill his bench he's going to have to ask two players to do. All of that is with the hope that LeBron likes what he sees, signs his max deal, and Wade takes less enough so it placates Bosh. The issue right now is I think McRoberts and Granger are the best Riley can get before he hits up vets looking for rings who are willing to sign for the minimum. I still believe Bosh might be the likeliest to leave, especially now that he just received a max offer from Houston. Wade is stuck where he's at. LeBron can really only go to a couple of places. Nevertheless, Bosh is probably the Heat player with the most options at this point and the most to lose in terms of dollars. The Granger move surprised me because as you said he's fallen off signifigintly the last two years but he isn't there to replace Allen. Allen is going to resign once LeBron does. The granger move is to replace Battier a wing defender that can guard some of Lebron's assignments. Who can hopefully hit some open shots. He's never been a decent three pt shooter but his offensive game has always been better than Battier and IF he can regain some of his confidence could give them some offense off the bench with McRoberts which they have been missing the last four years. I was really hoping they could have figured away to get Gasol but that looks over now. Still sticking with what I've been saying all along and all three are coming back. Bosh does have the most to lose and he's already made a huge sacrifice to his game since he's been here. I'd have a hard time passing onthat "reported" deal from Houston but him above everyone else has said repeatedly he take a discount to stay here. The man is on a trip around the world right now and hasn't met with any teams, like LeBron, it doesn't seem he's that concerned about the free agency process this time around. |
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