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Post by gdforever on Mar 6, 2011 17:59:22 GMT -5
I think we should wait and see how Noel's album does before accusing those that didn't buy is being Noel dickjumpers. And even then Noel's project will probably have more name recognition from Oasis fans than BDI.
It's very possible that some casual Oasis fans that don't keep track of the Gallaghers in the music press could actually not realize what BDI is...they might have benefited from putting the band of the cover for that reason.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Mar 6, 2011 18:22:07 GMT -5
So, what am i saying? im saying not every oasis fan bought the album. this only points to Noel dickriders making up their minds that they're not gonna help this band out(even if it 4/5 of Oasis) just because Noel is absent. shame on them and i swear to god i hope the Liam fans do the same thing when Noel's album comes out. Having that said, i will buy Noel's record when it comes out just because im not an idiot and i am an objective person. I will support both of them. Pretty much all of that is the most pathetic thing I have ever read on this forum and that's saying something. Bravo. I assume I'm one of those Noel "dickriders" as I've been critical of Beady Eye so far and have stated that I have much higher hopes for Noel's record, yet I still bought the Beady Eye album the day it came out. Some people on here need a reality check. The album is good but it's not that good. It isn't a classic Rock and Roll album and it certainly isn't the kind of album that sells shit loads. It sold (a lot) less than DOYS because it isn't as good as it. DOYS had TSOTL has it's lead single there's not a single song on DGSS that even reaches that level of brilliance. Get over it. [/rant] Done.  |
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Post by lucahelvetica on Mar 6, 2011 18:45:58 GMT -5
To be honest its not that bad a result when you look at the state of the charts. Foo Fighters new single only charted at 22, I would be surprised if their other lead single weren't all top 10.
Beady Eye also has a lot of stigma attached to them because of Liam's image. If you search for the term Beady Eye on twitter you can see people will say its shit without hearing any of it. Then there are the ones who thought Noel was the only talented one in Oasis. You also see people who say they like Beady Eye thinking they have to justify themselves with it, or saying they are not as shit as they thought they'd be, or that they didn't think they would like the album but they do. Everyone has a preconceived idea of the band, or a preconceived notion that it would be shit (that goes for some Oasis fans as well).
In that respect the News of the World cd could be good as it has got a variety of good tracks on there and may encourage people to check out the album and a second single could help. Sale figures for the album in the summer will be interesting to see how much they have grown by.
An example of people having an inherent bias towards one member of the band to the others is above. I would not expect someone with Team Noel everywhere to say that any of the songs on DGSS is better than a Noel song as the bias has been made clear. Not a dig but a fact that most people have a bias when listening to the record or when choosing not to. For some it won't be there cup of tea, but there are a lot out there that refuse to listen to it as they have made up their minds without hearing a note!
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Post by gdforever on Mar 6, 2011 18:52:59 GMT -5
I think they did great. #3 behind who they are behind is pretty damn good.
I said before that I'd be happy if they got a top 5 album.
@ # 3 it's still high enough to ensure them some visiblilty.
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Post by lucahelvetica on Mar 6, 2011 18:56:20 GMT -5
That is true, think they could do with being on something like Jools Holland as the shows they have been on so far only fans would tune in for.
Be interesting to see the effect the festivals have on sales as some people who wouldn't give them a chance may wander over to see what they like. Also there will be a lot of T in the Park coverage on BBC
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Post by oasisfanboy on Mar 6, 2011 18:56:24 GMT -5
So, what am i saying? im saying not every oasis fan bought the album. this only points to Noel dickriders making up their minds that they're not gonna help this band out(even if it 4/5 of Oasis) just because Noel is absent. shame on them and i swear to god i hope the Liam fans do the same thing when Noel's album comes out. Having that said, i will buy Noel's record when it comes out just because im not an idiot and i am an objective person. I will support both of them. Pretty much all of that is the most pathetic thing I have ever read on this forum and that's saying something. Bravo. I assume I'm one of those Noel "dickriders" as I've been critical of Beady Eye so far and have stated that I have much higher hopes for Noel's record, yet I still bought the Beady Eye album the day it came out. Some people on here need a reality check. The album is good but it's not that good. It isn't a classic Rock and Roll album and it certainly isn't the kind of album that sells shit loads. It sold (a lot) less than DOYS because it isn't as good as it. DOYS had TSOTL has it's lead single there's not a single song on DGSS that even reaches that level of brilliance. Get over it. [/rant] Done. Please stop posting opinions as absolutes. Especially when you're wrong! |
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Post by grantmac on Mar 6, 2011 19:04:34 GMT -5
Why do people give a fuck?! I was interested, but people getitng upset about it...? Oasis fans are under no obligation to continue funding the band, oasis name or not. It's not a football team. Just enjoy it yourself. It's hardly bombed anyway.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 6, 2011 21:54:02 GMT -5
So, what am i saying? im saying not every oasis fan bought the album. this only points to Noel dickriders making up their minds that they're not gonna help this band out(even if it 4/5 of Oasis) just because Noel is absent. shame on them and i swear to god i hope the Liam fans do the same thing when Noel's album comes out. Having that said, i will buy Noel's record when it comes out just because im not an idiot and i am an objective person. I will support both of them. Pretty much all of that is the most pathetic thing I have ever read on this forum and that's saying something. Bravo. I assume I'm one of those Noel "dickriders" as I've been critical of Beady Eye so far and have stated that I have much higher hopes for Noel's record, yet I still bought the Beady Eye album the day it came out.) well no shit sherlock! lol you do realize you have the words "proud member of Team Noel" right below your avatar, don't you? lol anyways, still, i don't know if you're part of the group i was referring to since you did but BDI's album. you may be critical of the band and all but i don't believe you're on of those that's so far up Noel's ass that just wishes Liam and co would fail(so that it's clear to everyone that their lazy idol is the one with all the talent). THose are the people i was talking about, you know they're out there in bunches. fucking losers. |
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Post by psj3809 on Mar 7, 2011 3:35:39 GMT -5
You would think the majority of people who got a ticket for the gig would get the album but obviously not I'm pretty sure the TOTAL amount of tickets sold for their gigs is less than 66 thousand  Yeah sorry keep thinking theyre playing to arenas of 15-20k or so. I'm actually looking forward to seeing them at the Troxy, smaller venue, atmosphere should be brilliant. But okay then i'm just surprised only 66k people bought the album in the first week. Think how many Oasis fans in the past have seen gigs/got the albums, yeah we were gutted they split up but a new album by Liam and the rest, just thought most fans would get it. |
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Post by lucahelvetica on Mar 7, 2011 4:28:01 GMT -5
Saw this on twitter early not sure on the validity:
Email from Dangerbird: Beady Eye 'Different Gear, Still Speeding' - Album #'s: UK: #3 - 94,414 units - US: #36 - 15,603 units - WW: 281,890
If true would be claiming that it sold 94k in the UK
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Post by Leezy on Mar 7, 2011 8:03:08 GMT -5
Lets just face it, the kids of today would rather be listenin to shit like Jessie J, Lady Gaga n that woman beating Chris Brown than anything like Beady Eye.
Genuinely think that even if Oasis were still together n DGSS was an Oasis record, then it would have still done quite poor sale wise, not because its shit or nothing, its just the state of the music scene at the moment.
As much as I hate that new band Brother, if they actually made it quite big n kick started another wave of rock music then I'd be happy.
Its not Beady Eye's fault that rock music is so dead at the moment. Just looked through the UK Top 40 and I can't see even 1 proper rock band in sight, NOT A SINGLE 1!!!
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Post by lucahelvetica on Mar 7, 2011 8:06:42 GMT -5
Out of the two new releases think that Jessie J will be more disappointed to not get number one. She is the hot new thing and must have been expecting number one, especially as they moved the release date forward, I presume to try and guarantee the number one spot.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 7, 2011 10:23:17 GMT -5
I thought we were finished with taking sides post-split? Sure, you can say you prefer Noel's song writing, or you can say you prefer LAG's track decisions and freshness. But to continually take sides and write off either one of the Gallagher's just because of the split is petulant, childish, and stubborn.
After all, Oasis were both Liam and Noel. The combination of the two is what made Oasis magical. So of course they are better together rather than the sum of their parts. But when Oasis were together, this silly division between fans didn't exist, so why start now? The last thing I want to see is this Oasis/BDI/Noel Gallagher fan base erode because of the split.
What's admirable is that Oasis fans have stuck with the band through it's highs and lows. And therefore I disagree with grantmac. There are many similarities between supporting your favorite football or sports team and supporting Oasis and the remnants of the band.
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Post by suckermc on Mar 7, 2011 13:03:32 GMT -5
"Email from Dangerbird: Beady Eye 'Different Gear, Still Speeding' - Album #'s: UK: #3 - 94,414 units - US: #36 - 15,603 units - WW: 281,890
If true would be claiming that it sold 94k in the UK"
if this is true, they are much more auccessful than i thought. i thougt they would sellk not over 300k ww IN THE END. tese are damn good sales for 1st week for a band like beady eye. but its not very suprising. they got good reviews, a good fanbasis of oasisnerds....still curious what will happen with other radiosingles(or better to say:-hits)
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Post by gdforever on Mar 7, 2011 14:12:03 GMT -5
I can't imagine any fans perversely not buying the album because they like Noel better than Liam. They just won't buy it unheard like they might an Oasis album. I can imagine some Oasis fans not thinking this new band is worth their time or money though.
LAG wanted to be seen as a new band...which means that they have to work @ getting people to listen and buy their album. They don't get the freebie sales that Oasis got because they haven't earned it.
They've gotten more sales with less work than any other new act would. They will need to work hard to get people to buy into this new band the way they had fans that bought into Oasis.
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Post by LlAM on Mar 7, 2011 14:21:59 GMT -5
imo it's not really about what else is "in" or "hot" at the moment. A band like Oasis doesn't rely on that kind of crap, they rely on their fanbase to get their asses to the shops and buy the damn thing. i am extremely upset about this result because even though i an an american and the UK market technically shouldn't even matter to me, i can't help but to think that if this album had the word OASIS instead of BEADY EYE on the front cover, it would've sold at least 180 thousand copies. So, what am i saying? im saying not every oasis fan bought the album. this only points to Noel dickriders making up their minds that they're not gonna help this band out(even if it 4/5 of Oasis) just because Noel is absent. shame on them and i swear to god i hope the Liam fans do the same thing when Noel's album comes out. Having that said, i will buy Noel's record when it comes out just because im not an idiot and i am an objective person. I will support both of them. You my friend, are a complete and utter idiot. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 7, 2011 14:50:22 GMT -5
I can't imagine any fans perversely not buying the album because they like Noel better than Liam. They just won't buy it unheard like they might an Oasis album. I can imagine some Oasis fans not thinking this new band is worth their time or money though. LAG wanted to be seen as a new band...which means that they have to work @ getting people to listen and buy their album. They don't get the freebie sales that Oasis got because they haven't earned it. They've gotten more sales with less work than any other new act would. They will need to work hard to get people to buy into this new band the way they had fans that bought into Oasis. oh believe me, they're out there. not only in the UK but in the US, Argentina, Mexico, etc.... i know cos i read the message boards and i see what people are saying. |
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Post by gdforever on Mar 7, 2011 16:01:53 GMT -5
I can't imagine any fans perversely not buying the album because they like Noel better than Liam. They just won't buy it unheard like they might an Oasis album. I can imagine some Oasis fans not thinking this new band is worth their time or money though. LAG wanted to be seen as a new band...which means that they have to work @ getting people to listen and buy their album. They don't get the freebie sales that Oasis got because they haven't earned it. They've gotten more sales with less work than any other new act would. They will need to work hard to get people to buy into this new band the way they had fans that bought into Oasis. oh believe me, they're out there. not only in the UK but in the US, Argentina, Mexico, etc.... i know cos i read the message boards and i see what people are saying. What morons then. But there can't be THAT many that are actively not going to buy it because they like Noel better. It's gotta just be a few loudmouths on the internet. I can imagine some having a think about whether it's worth it after listening to a single or two...I wouldn't think less of anyone deciding it was worth it. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Mar 7, 2011 21:37:40 GMT -5
Number 3 is pretty good anyway. I would have rather it had gone to no 1 but it doesnt really matter. # is great, they dont have the oasis name so it would have never sold quite as much.
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Post by oneeye on Mar 10, 2011 7:32:49 GMT -5
anyone seen the midweek charts yet?
Also noticed Time Flies is up to no.100, so it's obviously having a small affect on Oasis sales.
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Post by space75gr on Mar 10, 2011 8:02:45 GMT -5
i think its still top 10 even if we ll see many new releases in it (Elbow,REM etc)
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Post by Mad4it on Mar 10, 2011 9:17:52 GMT -5
anyone seen the midweek charts yet? Also noticed Time Flies is up to no.100, so it's obviously having a small affect on Oasis sales. #10 currently after wednesday sales |
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Post by deasy on Mar 13, 2011 13:10:52 GMT -5
Officially #10 this week.
1. (1) 21 (Adele) 7 wks
2. (NEW) BUILD A ROCKET BOYS! (Elbow) 1 wk
3. (2) WHO YOU ARE (Jessie J) 2 wks
4. (4) 19 (Adele) 77 wks
5. (NEW) COLLAPSE INTO NOW (REM) 1 wk
6. (5) LOUD (Rihanna) 17 wks
7. (6) DOO WOPS & HOOLIGANS (Bruno Mars) 8 wks
8. (NEW) LAST NIGHT ON EARTH (Noah & The Whale) 1 wk
9. (NEW) GOODBYE LULLABY (Avril Lavigne) 1 wk
10. (3) DIFFERENT GEAR, STILL SPEEDING (Beady Eye ) 2 wks
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Post by lucahelvetica on Mar 13, 2011 13:14:12 GMT -5
Do you know how many it sold this week to be number 10?
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Post by deasy on Mar 13, 2011 13:20:07 GMT -5
Do you know how many it sold this week to be number 10? Not yet but last weeks #10 sold 13,733.......... |
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