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Post by worldsoutro on Mar 1, 2011 15:51:57 GMT -5
These are the casual fans that are being introduced to Beady Eye. Its free and unlike the people who are reviewing the album itself dont know anything about the band. This is a good indication of how well it'll be received in the US.
So far its so so. Some people dig it but others think the vocals are annoying and the guitar riff is repetitive
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Post by Rifles on Mar 1, 2011 15:57:51 GMT -5
Mind sharing? I loathe iTunes, but wouldn't mind getting an idea of how the general public feel about the song.
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Post by worldsoutro on Mar 1, 2011 16:09:13 GMT -5
The gist of the negative are: 60's sound, Beatles ripoff, Sounds like Karaoke, uninspiring
they arent all bad some middle of the road reviews and others you can tell are Oasis fans.
You can check it out by changing your country on Itunes to US
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Post by putthisin ® on Mar 1, 2011 16:26:44 GMT -5
At least the album is at no 6
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Post by doggboy10 on Mar 1, 2011 16:35:41 GMT -5
Adele is not only shitting on the competition in the UK....she's currently doing the same worldwide, latest top 3 US chart below (Mumford & sons are doing big things over there to???) LW TW artist / album label power index % change -- 1 ADELE 21 XL/COLUMBIA 353,129 1 2 JUSTIN BIEBER NEVER SAY NEVER - THE REMIXES ISLAND/IDJMG 98,691 -40% 2 3 MUMFORD & SONS SIGH NO MORE GLASSNOTE 62,454 -52% 3 4 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 37 CAPITOL/EMI 59,445 -36% I actually have a lot of time for Adele, great great voice and seems a fun down to earth sort of girl....good on her!
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Post by rmillis on Mar 1, 2011 17:38:25 GMT -5
I laughed at one review. They put for the title "Gay" and for description, "Eminem and Taylor Swift should do a duet and this song is garbage". That's what Americans like me have to put up with on a daily basis.
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Post by worldsoutro on Mar 1, 2011 17:48:05 GMT -5
I laughed at one review. They put for the title "Gay" and for description, "Eminem and Taylor Swift should do a duet and this song is garbage". That's what Americans like me have to put up with on a daily basis. hahah I saw that one!
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Post by worldsoutro on Mar 1, 2011 17:54:02 GMT -5
This aint going anywhere in the US
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Post by stillspeeding on Mar 1, 2011 18:36:52 GMT -5
is this only free in the US or will it be in Ireland too ?
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Post by Ltrain on Mar 1, 2011 18:37:02 GMT -5
Yeah, being an American and knowing how a lot of my fellow yanks operate and think when comes to music I don't think it was a good idea for TBGO to be a free one. The song that would do the best here is Four Letter Word without a doubt. I just don't get Beady Eye and Oasis's management sometimes. They don't ever promote here on the radio. Most of Oasis's songs were better than most of shit here on the radio. Stop Crying Your Heart Out would of been huge here if it got any damn airplay. I know its a ballad like TBGO but its a better tune with a better melody.
Seriously though, Four Letter word should be playing all over on US Radio if I had a say in Beady Eye.
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Post by worldsoutro on Mar 1, 2011 19:05:37 GMT -5
Yeah, being an American and knowing how a lot of my fellow yanks operate and think when comes to music I don't think it was a good idea for TBGO to be a free one. The song that would do the best here is Four Letter Word without a doubt. I just don't get Beady Eye and Oasis's management sometimes. They don't ever promote here on the radio. Most of Oasis's songs were better than most of shit here on the radio. Stop Crying Your Heart Out would of been huge here if it got any damn airplay. I know its a ballad like TBGO but its a better tune with a better melody. Seriously though, Four Letter word should be playing all over on US Radio if I had a say in Beady Eye. You hit it on the head about Stop Crying your heart out. I know alot of people who like that song at my college
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 1, 2011 19:33:04 GMT -5
TBGO may arguably be the best song on the album but it's not the best single material. ESPECIALLY IN THE U.S. i think a better choice would've been "STanding on the edge of the noise" i know a lot of you don't think much of the song but it's THE most radio friendly tune . that song could do some damage on alternative radio, i believe it would get a lot of airplay. Four Letter word wouldn't be as bad as TBGO but i don't think it'd get too many spin tbh. it has too much of a british sound. now don't get me wrong i like the song but it wouldn't do anything over here. KFAD is another song that has single potential. I am talking, of course, about songs that would do good on the radio HERE in the states.
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Post by worldsoutro on Mar 1, 2011 19:35:12 GMT -5
TBGO may arguably be the best song on the album but it's not the best single material. ESPECIALLY IN THE U.S. i think a better choice would've been "STanding on the edge of the noise" i know a lot of you don't think much of the song but it's THE most radio friendly tune . that song could do some damage on alternative radio, i believe it would get a lot of airplay. Four Letter word wouldn't be as bad as TBGO but i don't think it'd get too many spin tbh. it has too much of a british sound. now don't get me wrong i like the song but it wouldn't do anything over here. KFAD is another song that has single potential. I am talking, of course, about songs that would do good on the radio HERE in the states. The promotion here in the states has been a disaster so far!!
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 1, 2011 19:55:42 GMT -5
Beady Eye are an indie band(in every sense of the word) over here. Indie bands don't get much airplay but i just think "standing" would've been a much better song to release as a free download.
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Post by Ltrain on Mar 1, 2011 20:35:58 GMT -5
I disagree with Standing. It would get slagged off for being a "get back" rip off and you don't have to listen too deep to hear that. Four Letter Word would of been better In my opinion but both are better than TBGO or KFAD as a single in the States. Also TRC would do okay here I think.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 1, 2011 20:42:12 GMT -5
Wow, TBGO is getting ripped on at times on US iTunes.
I personally think For Anyone would have been the best release. It's different from Oasis, and there's no immediate Beatles hallmarks, either.
But then again, most of those who criticize on that iTunes page would rather listen to Lady Gaga and the like, so let's take it with a grain of salt, eh?
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Post by Ltrain on Mar 1, 2011 20:48:11 GMT -5
I agree NL4E with taking it as a grain of salt. But with For anyone it would of been "oh, this is there she goes". And people there wouldn't even of known it was the La's. They would of said "by that band with the female singer". I can't remember their name but they did a cover of it back in the late 90's I think.
But you can clearly sing "there she goes" in tune with the verses of For anyone. I know people would of ripped it for that.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 1, 2011 21:03:05 GMT -5
I agree NL4E with taking it as a grain of salt. But with For anyone it would of been "oh, this is there she goes". And people there wouldn't even of known it was the La's. They would of said "by that band with the female singer". I can't remember their name but they did a cover of it back in the late 90's I think. But you can clearly sing "there she goes" in tune with the verses of For anyone. I know people would of ripped it for that. Six Pence None The Richer
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 1, 2011 21:49:51 GMT -5
I disagree with Standing. It would get slagged off for being a "get back" rip off and you don't have to listen too deep to hear that. Four Letter Word would of been better In my opinion but both are better than TBGO or KFAD as a single in the States. Also TRC would do okay here I think. KFAD wouldn't be so bad imo. As for "Standing". you're giving the causal US iTunes user too much credit if you think they'd recognize it as a Beatles rip-off. If you read arefully, the reviews for TBGO saying it sounds too much like the beatles can't even make out what song it resembles, they just know it sounds a hell of a lot like the Fab4 which it does. "Standing on the edge of the noise" is an upbeat song that sounds modern, way more so than any other of the tracks on the album. It would really fit well within Alternative stations playlists. that's my opinion anywyas. and for the person who "For Anyone" doesn't sound much like OAsis, let's get real here, it's basically "Songbird part 2". That song wouldn't get a single spin here in the states and for the record, Sonbird never did either.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2011 22:01:26 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, there is really no song on here which would appeal to any mass U.S. audience, or even an indie one. I think it was lgfaver was taking about this album maybe getting a Grammy nod, and this is one of the reasons that I disagreed with him.
There really is not that 1 knock out single on this album. And quite frankly, I don't think that BDI are capable of that. They can make pretty good songs, but they can't really make great songs that have knock out potential. For all the crap that Noel takes for not being able to write songs that have the quality of his older stuff, his greatest talent is the fact that his songs appeal to a wide audience. And also have commercial viability.
For all the crap that LYLA, and TSOTL gets, that kind of stuff has commercial viability in the U.S.. There is really nothing on this DGSS that even comes close to approaching that viability, where it can get to a wide audience. This might speak to what BDI are: a band that will be recommended by a random Oasis fan, which will then get a casual listen, which will then be liked some what, and then after a couple of weeks will be basically forgotten.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 1, 2011 22:08:30 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, there is really no song on here which would appeal to any mass U.S. audience, or even an indie one. I think it was lgfaver was taking about this album maybe getting a Grammy nod, and this is one of the reasons that I disagreed with him. There really is not that 1 knock out single on this album. And quite frankly, I don't think that BDI are capable of that. They can make pretty good songs, but they can't really make great songs that have knock out potential. For all the crap that Noel takes for not being able to write songs that have the quality of his older stuff, his greatest talent is the fact that his songs appeal to a wide audience. And also have commercial viability. For all the crap that LYLA, and TSOTL gets, that kind of stuff has commercial viability in the U.S.. There is really nothing on this DGSS that even comes close to approaching that viability, where it can get to a wide audience. This might speak to what BDI are: a band that will be recommended by a random Oasis fan, which will then get a casual listen, which will then be liked some what, and then after a couple of weeks will be basically forgotten. nonononono... i never said anything about a grammy, i referenced the grammys because i was talking about the album being a contender for rock album of the year. i wasn't talking about it winning the grammy for rock album of the year lol. maybe there was some confusion there. anyways, what you're saying about having that "killer single" is the same thing you said the last time, to which i replied that albums that get nominated for grammies gotta have some commercial success(killer single) but that doesn't mean the album is good. i mentioned Muse and the last Green Day album which imo sucked ass big time. As for Noel songs being more comercial and appealing to wider audiences, i call bullshit on that as well. those songs were introduced to the market as OASIS SONGS and were backed by a big time label( SONY or WB) which is why they got the airplay they got. don't make it seem like "oh see how Noel's songs got more airplay, his songs are much more this or that". i don't buy that. and i will continue to say this, SOTEOTN is very much single(for the US market) material. It would do rather good methinks.
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 1, 2011 22:10:52 GMT -5
I agree about TBGO. Its a beautiful song but its not the one to use as a single, especially US single. Standing on the Edge woudl have been a much better choice, or even Millionaire.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 1, 2011 22:16:49 GMT -5
I agree about TBGO. Its a beautiful song but its not the one to use as a single, especially US single. Standing on the Edge woudl have been a much better choice, or even Millionaire. yeah, eventho Millionaire sounds a bit corny, it is a very good song, one of my faves in fact. not sure how it'd be received. For instance, i read a bunch of comments on various spanish forums that said FOr Anyone and Millionaire sounded too**how do i translate this.. lol** it sounded... well, they basically said Liam sounded like a pussy lol i like both songs, for the record.
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Post by manualex on Mar 1, 2011 22:19:07 GMT -5
I agree about TBGO. Its a beautiful song but its not the one to use as a single, especially US single. Standing on the Edge woudl have been a much better choice, or even Millionaire. yeah, eventho Millionaire sounds a bit corny, it is a very good song, one of my faves in fact. not sure how it'd be received. For instance, i read a bunch of comments on various spanish forums that said FOr Anyone and Millionaire sounded too**how do i translate this.. lol** it sounded... well, they basically said Liam sounded like a pussy lol i like both songs, for the record. lmao link me in pm xD
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2011 22:21:41 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, there is really no song on here which would appeal to any mass U.S. audience, or even an indie one. I think it was lgfaver was taking about this album maybe getting a Grammy nod, and this is one of the reasons that I disagreed with him. There really is not that 1 knock out single on this album. And quite frankly, I don't think that BDI are capable of that. They can make pretty good songs, but they can't really make great songs that have knock out potential. For all the crap that Noel takes for not being able to write songs that have the quality of his older stuff, his greatest talent is the fact that his songs appeal to a wide audience. And also have commercial viability. For all the crap that LYLA, and TSOTL gets, that kind of stuff has commercial viability in the U.S.. There is really nothing on this DGSS that even comes close to approaching that viability, where it can get to a wide audience. This might speak to what BDI are: a band that will be recommended by a random Oasis fan, which will then get a casual listen, which will then be liked some what, and then after a couple of weeks will be basically forgotten. nonononono... i never said anything about a grammy, i referenced the grammys because i was talking about the album being a contender for rock album of the year. i wasn't talking about it winning the grammy for rock album of the year lol. maybe there was some confusion there. anyways, what you're saying about having that "killer single" is the same thing you said the last time, to which i replied that albums that get nominated for grammies gotta have some commercial success(killer single) but that doesn't mean the album is good. i mentioned Muse and the last Green Day album which imo sucked ass big time. As for Noel songs being more comercial and appealing to wider audiences, i call bullshit on that as well. those songs were introduced to the market as OASIS SONGS and were backed by a big time label( SONY or WB) which is why they got the airplay they got. don't make it seem like "oh see how Noel's songs got more airplay, his songs are much more this or that". i don't buy that. and i will continue to say this, SOTEOTN is very much single(for the US market) material. It would do rather good methinks. There was a bit of confusion. sorry. But to the point about it being commercially great. I also do not think that there is just 1 knock out great song (not a single, just a great song). DGSS imo is an album that just has a collection of songs with a qualities of okay, to some what good. There really is not a "great" song on this album. Song good ones, but not really amazing, or even great. On Noel, you could say that he had the full backing of the "Oasis" brand, but let's not act like Oasis got a shit load of airplay in America, even when a new single came out. Noel's songs do have a great commercial appeal than anything that's on DGSS, sorry but that's just my opinion. Noel had the "Oasis" brand to get his foot in the door, but that doesn't mean people have to listen to it. If you put any song on DGSS on the radio today, I don't think people would be calling back in to listen to it. But they do, do that with Noel's Oasis material. I mean all you have to do is look at the chart performance of TSOTL, it started somewhere at about 20 something, but almost rose to the top 10 on the Modern Rock chart. That takes people liking the song and actually calling back and wanting to hear more. (which is amazing when it comes to Oasis in America) . I don't think a BDI single could do that. I really don't think it could rise up the charts even if they got their foot in the door. edit: let me put it this way, if any song from DGSS were released under the "Oasis" brand, I don't think that it would be a hit. I think would meander somewhere in the bottom 30 of the Modern Rock charts or something, and stay there.
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