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Post by thuperthonic on Feb 14, 2011 19:41:50 GMT -5
Noel's doing a much better job of avoiding the hype machine, that's for sure. If we hadn't heard a peep from Beady Eye other than the occasional tabloid rumor, then all of a sudden they announced they were putting an album out in a week, people would be far less likely to be underwhelmed.
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Post by beaverinthemanhat on Feb 14, 2011 19:49:37 GMT -5
I don't see how Noel can comete with them, musicianship and songwriting he has them hands down; but performace wise and vocally; no way. I think he is going to have a really hard time "cracking" the music world solo; I just think his voice is his curse. It's good mind you, but not good enough...here's hoping though...?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Feb 14, 2011 19:58:39 GMT -5
I don't see how Noel can comete with them, musicianship and songwriting he has them hands down; but performace wise and vocally; no way. I think he is going to have a really hard time "cracking" the music world solo; I just think his voice is his curse. It's good mind you, but not good enough...here's hoping though...? Thebeaverinthemanhat He's already sang on 3 number one singles. I think he'll be ok. Most people I know (non oasis fans) would prefer Noel's voice. |
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Feb 14, 2011 20:15:18 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll ever hear Noel's songs, like Slow, that were demos during 91-95, but ultimately both Noel and Owen agreed were not Oasis material. Their time may have passed, but I'm interested in these songs more than anything.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 14, 2011 20:17:27 GMT -5
I don't see how Noel can comete with them, musicianship and songwriting he has them hands down; but performace wise and vocally; no way. I think he is going to have a really hard time "cracking" the music world solo; I just think his voice is his curse. It's good mind you, but not good enough...here's hoping though...? Thebeaverinthemanhat He's already sang on 3 number one singles. I think he'll be ok. Most people I know (non oasis fans) would prefer Noel's voice. So what? I think the majority of fans would rather have Liam sing the majority. Most of the people I know prefer Liams voice. |
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Post by ToneBender on Feb 14, 2011 20:52:57 GMT -5
Musicianship wise Gem and Andy actually have Noel beat. They are far superior musicians to him from a technical standpoint. From a songwriting standpoint, Noel has the ability but after 15 years it'd be nice to hear him sing about something other than his soul and whether or not it will shine in the near future.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 14, 2011 21:01:53 GMT -5
I don't see how Noel can comete with them, musicianship and songwriting he has them hands down; but performace wise and vocally; no way. I think he is going to have a really hard time "cracking" the music world solo; I just think his voice is his curse. It's good mind you, but not good enough...here's hoping though...? Thebeaverinthemanhat You're right about Gem and Andy, but Noel's voice is more than fine. Noel's vocals have only gotten better as the years have progressed. As long as he writes songs that fit his voice - and since he's now a solo artist you'd imagine he would - I see no problem at all. And we've seen Noel perform semi-solo in recent years (with Gem), and did exceedingly well. Remember, he's going to have a backing band...... Noel will be fine. |
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Post by doco on Feb 14, 2011 21:04:52 GMT -5
From 2 listens I think the album is OK, not sure if it's as good as any Oasis album for me though. Yes I know Heathen Chemistry isn't great but it has great tracks. I prefer any tune, literally any tune on any Oasis album to SOTEOTN. I'm not gonna defend SOTEOTN, but I think you take another listen to things like TNOR and PYWYMI Who wrote The Nature of Reality again?? or Soldier On for that matter. People have said Noel's voice will be his undoing, I disagree and Neil Young is an obvious example that not having a good voice but being a good singer can work. |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 14, 2011 21:41:22 GMT -5
Where is this myth of Noel having a bad voice or being a bad singer coming from? I love the record and am a supporter of Beady Eye, but Noel's vocals > Liam's vocals in the modern era.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Feb 14, 2011 22:02:25 GMT -5
Where is this myth of Noel having a bad voice or being a bad singer coming from? I love the record and am a supporter of Beady Eye, but Noel's vocals > Liam's vocals in the modern era. Watch There & Then and him YELLING Morning Glory not singing it... Only in recent years did he learn to use his voice dynamically |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 14, 2011 22:30:01 GMT -5
^ read "modern era"
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 14, 2011 22:34:07 GMT -5
Yes, thank you. Performances like the one below make me so excited for a Noel solo record: |
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Post by NYR on Feb 15, 2011 0:28:03 GMT -5
this was the best part about the oasis split... we get more music. haven't heard dgss yet (waiting for the official release), but let's see what noel can do!
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Post by gdforever on Feb 15, 2011 0:39:55 GMT -5
Maybe I am weird...but I love when Noel whistles a solo...like when Noel does TIOBI without Gem or in Flashbax...I want a whistled solo on Noel's solo album! Oasis never had a whistled solo on an album!  |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 15, 2011 0:42:04 GMT -5
Maybe I am weird...but I love when Noel whistles a solo...like when Noel does TIOBI without Gem or in Flashbax...I want a whistled solo on Noel's solo album! Oasis never had a whistled solo on an album! I agree. I love when Noel whistles in his tunes. Flashbax, especially. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Feb 15, 2011 1:27:21 GMT -5
but after 15 years it'd be nice to hear him sing about something other than his soul and whether or not it will shine in the near future. this actually made me lol  And we've seen Noel perform semi-solo in recent years (with Gem), and did exceedingly well. I agree, but I think it has much to do with the songs he sung. Those were Oasis classics mixed with the best B-sides, and every Oasis fan knows those songs from start to finish. If he will only play solo material, it would be something totally different. I do think it could get 'boring'. I hope he does only play solo material, to prove himself (just like BE are doing now) but I don't think he will, for this reason. Anyways, I love Noel, and its time for him to come back into our lives! Give us something! Now that I've heard the BE album, I can't wait any longer! |
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Post by lastfanstanding on Feb 15, 2011 1:39:12 GMT -5
hopefully thats the cover art.
him stepping up to a plate of spaghetti and meatballs.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 15, 2011 1:42:01 GMT -5
but after 15 years it'd be nice to hear him sing about something other than his soul and whether or not it will shine in the near future. this actually made me lol And we've seen Noel perform semi-solo in recent years (with Gem), and did exceedingly well. I agree, but I think it has much to do with the songs he sung. Those were Oasis classics mixed with the best B-sides, and every Oasis fan knows those songs from start to finish. If he will only play solo material, it would be something totally different. I do think it could get 'boring'. I hope he does only play solo material, to prove himself (just like BE are doing now) but I don't think he will, for this reason. Anyways, I love Noel, and its time for him to come back into our lives! Give us something! Now that I've heard the BE album, I can't wait any longer! I share some of your worries about Noel's live show He's a sit down acoustic a few good natures verbal jabs @ the audience kind of preformer on his own thus far. I have a hard time seeing being an act that could convincingly headline anything larger than a sizeable theater. Before anyone yells @ me...yes I know he'll have a backing band...but one of 2 things I could imagine happening with that. 1. They do their thing and make Noel look a bit dull and old. 2. They all stand as still as Noel and the whole thing is really boring to watch without Liam prowling around on the instumental breaks and being generally magnetic. I can't imagine Noel starting to be a more active preformer...maybe he'll pull it out and surprise me... BUT I don't think it'll be the music that'll be the problem. I think musically it'll be excellent. Noel has always been great about spotting good people to play with. Andy, Gem, Alan, Zak, Chris. All great choices in their own way. I think he'll start modest and enough people will want to see Noel that are willing to seek out and learn all the tunes. Liam, on the other hand, if he can get the fans and the songs, could probably play venues as big as Oasis because is still a magnetic personality on a grand scale that Noel, with his wit, could never match. I think Noel will be better in studio...and Liam will be better live. Same as it always was really... |
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Post by mytwocents on Feb 15, 2011 6:12:13 GMT -5
Stop the Clocks crappy? Wow, I think that song, with a proper version, would be a classic.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 15, 2011 6:38:45 GMT -5
gdforever (don't want to quote that long post), I don't really agree with the conclusion. I only saw Oasis once live, but I really didn't have a desire to see them again because of how poor Liam was vocally and as a general stage presence. Contrast that with Noel, who provided a vivid memory every time he stepped up to the microphone to sing a song.
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Post by andycoleoasis on Feb 15, 2011 6:39:48 GMT -5
Whilst im sure Noel will write better songs, he will have the harder job, because everyone will be looking at his music saying "Imagine how good that would have been if Liam had sung it"
BEady eye don't have this problem, they weren't expected to make a good album, so the excellent DGSS has surpassed all expectations.
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Post by jlzoasis on Feb 15, 2011 8:51:41 GMT -5
Whilst im sure Noel will write better songs, he will have the harder job, because everyone will be looking at his music saying "Imagine how good that would have been if Liam had sung it" BEady eye don't have this problem, they weren't expected to make a good album, so the excellent DGSS has surpassed all expectations. THIS....! Its great to claim Noel's album will be better.....but the big question is...when will we actually get a album to compare BDI too? Remember it was always the rest of the band that was always anxious to go, it was Noel who was always saying "oh I could have waited five more years". Noel is a genius and yes his record might be better than BDI's but he is dead lazy... Personally I am not going to bother with worrying about Noel... I have music, GOOD music from 3/4 of a band I love...I'll take it... |
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Post by MasterplanMatt on Feb 15, 2011 9:04:46 GMT -5
Cannot wait to hear Noel's solo album! His voice is fucking brilliant.
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Post by chris18swash on Feb 15, 2011 10:23:42 GMT -5
And bat this Beady Eye shite into oblivion! Absolute wanker!! |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Feb 15, 2011 10:39:47 GMT -5
Whilst im sure Noel will write better songs, he will have the harder job, because everyone will be looking at his music saying "Imagine how good that would have been if Liam had sung it" BEady eye don't have this problem, they weren't expected to make a good album, so the excellent DGSS has surpassed all expectations. THIS....! Its great to claim Noel's album will be better.....but the big question is...when will we actually get a album to compare BDI too? Remember it was always the rest of the band that was always anxious to go, it was Noel who was always saying "oh I could have waited five more years". Noel is a genius and yes his record might be better than BDI's but he is dead lazy... Personally I am not going to bother with worrying about Noel... I have music, GOOD music from 3/4 of a band I love...I'll take it... i think another contributing factor to Noel not being in any hurry to release an album is financially based. he has far more money than any of the other former members of Oasis, and has no need to really work at this point. and he really has nothing left to prove. |
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