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Post by idledreamer on Jan 16, 2011 1:51:53 GMT -5
from dbtt? no... at least, not the ones we've heard anyway  That's why I am inclined to think it was intended as a b-side instead. Originally Lyla wasn't gonna be a single, right? Maybe Noel was planning on MF to be a single before he was convinced about Lyla... yes, but lyla was the lead-off single. now,, if it were to be mucky fingers instead: i can't imagine having a lead off oasis single with noel vox. i.i.r.c. you are correct: noel didn't want lyla to be a single, but was pigeon-holed into releasing it by the record suits now, was noel against including lyla on the record all together? |
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Post by manualex on Jan 16, 2011 1:53:31 GMT -5
from dbtt? no... at least, not the ones we've heard anyway That's why I am inclined to think it was intended as a b-side instead. Originally Lyla wasn't gonna be a single, right? Maybe Noel was planning on MF to be a single before he was convinced about Lyla... MF was going to the lead single(and TSHB a B-side; i have seen that STC was also after or before POTQ dont remember it quite well) until the band met with sony and they told to noel to rework on a demo that they throught had potential. The song was lyla and the rest is history. Edit.: MF was to be re-recorded(like most of the album) but since it wasnt going to be the lead single noel kept it like that |
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Post by idledreamer on Jan 16, 2011 1:56:15 GMT -5
That's why I am inclined to think it was intended as a b-side instead. Originally Lyla wasn't gonna be a single, right? Maybe Noel was planning on MF to be a single before he was convinced about Lyla... (and TSHB a B-side; i have seen that STC was also after or before POTQ dont remember it quite well) until the band met with sony and they told to noel to rework on a demo that they throught had potential. The song was lyla and the rest is history. Edit.: MF was to be re-recorded(like most of the album) but since it wasnt going to be the lead single noel kept it like that a lead single w/ noel vox? are you sure? |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 16, 2011 1:56:51 GMT -5
That's why I am inclined to think it was intended as a b-side instead. Originally Lyla wasn't gonna be a single, right? Maybe Noel was planning on MF to be a single before he was convinced about Lyla... yes, but lyla was the lead-off single. now,, if it were to be mucky fingers instead: i can't imagine having a lead off oasis single with noel vox. i.i.r.c. you are correct: noel didn't want lyla to be a single, but was pigeon-holed into releasing it by the record suits now, was noel against including lyla on the record all together? He did say during the promo for STC that Lyla almost didn't make it onto DBTT let alone STC. He didn't realise how good it was until they went on tour. It would have been weird as well because then the 3 singles would have been TIOBI (Noel vox) MF (Noel vox) and LTBL (Liam and Noel vox) Entirely too much Noel... They scrapped the album twice...maybe the album was originally supposed to flow into eachother like DOYS did...but then it didn't work out so TSHB was binned. |
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Post by manualex on Jan 16, 2011 2:00:30 GMT -5
MF was going to the lead single(and TSHB a B-side; i have seen that STC was also after or before POTQ dont remember it quite well) until the band met with sony and they told to noel to rework on a demo that they throught had potential. The song was lyla and the rest is history. Edit.: MF was to be re-recorded(like most of the album) but since it wasnt going to be the lead single noel kept it like that a lead single w/ noel vox? are you sure? Nope, it was to be with liam(hence the re-record) at vox but since sony didnt liked the track noel didnt reworked the track. |
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Post by idledreamer on Jan 16, 2011 2:01:54 GMT -5
a lead single w/ noel vox? are you sure? Nope, it was to be with liam(hence the re-record) at vox but since sony didnt liked the track noel didnt reworked the track. wow, very interesting... i didn't know that |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 16, 2011 2:01:59 GMT -5
a lead single w/ noel vox? are you sure? Nope, it was to be with liam(hence the re-record) at vox but since sony didnt liked the track noel didnt reworked the track. I always thought that song would have sounded better with Liam! I didn't know that! He should have reworked it anyways...even if it was only gonna be an album track! |
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Post by Marcos on Jan 16, 2011 2:07:27 GMT -5
would you bother to explain why exactly you think it is so weak? come on, I know you would  Honestly...not really. Simple opinion simply stated...be grateful! I really never have heard anyone rave about TSHB though. I've never even seen it referred to by someone in relation to amazing b-sides. Fair enough. What is the point of it being or not up there with oasis' best b-sides? I think TSHB is great and enjoyable on its own way. |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 16, 2011 2:08:39 GMT -5
Honestly...not really. Simple opinion simply stated...be grateful! I really never have heard anyone rave about TSHB though. I've never even seen it referred to by someone in relation to amazing b-sides. Fair enough. What is the point of it being or not up there with oasis' best b-sides? I think TSHB is great and enjoyable on its own way. Fair enough. |
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Post by Marcos on Jan 16, 2011 2:17:43 GMT -5
Nope, it was to be with liam(hence the re-record) at vox but since sony didnt liked the track noel didnt reworked the track. wow, very interesting... i didn't know that Didn't know that either. Mucky Fingers would've been a lot better with Liam on vocals. Used to hate it until I heard it live. But I think if they had released it as DBTT's first single (even if was the Liam version) this would've been one of oasis biggest mistakes. |
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Post by manualex on Jan 16, 2011 2:26:21 GMT -5
wow, very interesting... i didn't know that Didn't know that either. Mucky Fingers would've been a lot better with Liam on vocals. Used to hate it until I heard it live. But I think if they had released it as DBTT's first single (even if was the Liam version) this would've been one of oasis biggest mistakes. Yeah, Sony were right about Lyla(It was on Fifa 06 the way i rediscovered oasis ) but i wonder what if the whole single was going to be like a little ep of songs that segues into another or it was just going to be two songs that segues and another b-side. |
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Post by idledreamer on Jan 16, 2011 3:18:13 GMT -5
17-12 now, tshb is making a comeback ;D
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Post by LlAM on Jan 16, 2011 4:00:00 GMT -5
World Outside My Room takes a major dump on Swollen Hand Blues from a great distance.
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Post by cheerfuljamie on Jan 16, 2011 5:33:28 GMT -5
TSHB sounds unfinished to me. WOMR for me
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Post by supernovadragon on Jan 16, 2011 5:41:45 GMT -5
Let's put it this way, can't stop listening to WOMR and I can't remember last time I listened to TSHB
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 16, 2011 9:40:14 GMT -5
TWOMR
As already pointed out, TSHB sounds way too unfinished.
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Post by spaneli on Jan 16, 2011 9:45:03 GMT -5
ahahahaha, thats pretty sad. The only way we can compare BDI to Noel is if we take maybe the worst song Noel ever wrote, next to I Can See A Liar. Shows how great Noel is.
I'll take TWOMR, just because there's no way TSHB can really compete. Its just really one of Noel's bottom something songs.
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Post by caats19 on Jan 16, 2011 9:52:57 GMT -5
Nope, it was to be with liam(hence the re-record) at vox but since sony didnt liked the track noel didnt reworked the track. I always thought that song would have sounded better with Liam! I didn't know that! He should have reworked it anyways...even if it was only gonna be an album track! i'll disagree there. I don't think liam would have pulled off the "fed up with life in the city" money moment. Plus liam couldn't have sung it live very well. and that tune takes off live. one of the best on the album. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 16, 2011 10:08:04 GMT -5
I really like TSHB so I went for that but maybe after time I'll prefer WOMR. I just think the production on the new song is a bit weak but nice vocal and the lyrics are really good.
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Post by Marcos on Jan 16, 2011 10:32:13 GMT -5
27 against 16 is not bad at all to TSHB (being so shit eh?)
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Post by kenneth on Jan 16, 2011 11:08:31 GMT -5
I went with World Outside My Room. I kinda like that mellow chilled out feel of the whole song. Not a classic by any means, but a good tune none the less  Don't mind Those Swollen Hand Blues either to be honest. For some strange reason, I find myself singing to that song once in a while. |
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Post by caats19 on Jan 16, 2011 11:15:55 GMT -5
TWOMR As already pointed out, TSHB sounds way too unfinished. where the hell are you getting that TSHB sounds unfinished? |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 16, 2011 11:26:04 GMT -5
TWOMR As already pointed out, TSHB sounds way too unfinished. where the hell are you getting that TSHB sounds unfinished? TSHB sounds unfinished to me. WOMR for me |
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Post by caats19 on Jan 16, 2011 11:42:58 GMT -5
where the hell are you getting that TSHB sounds unfinished? TSHB sounds unfinished to me. WOMR for me yeah i'm asking why you think it's unfinished. unless you think it's unfinished cause cheerfuljamie said so? |
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Post by thuperthonic on Jan 16, 2011 15:16:25 GMT -5
I love TSHB and would go so far as to say it should've closed DOYS. Sub Liam for Noel, make the lyrics more psychedelic, give it the Sardy treatment, and I think we'd have a winner. A much, much harder song to write than TWOMR.
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