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Post by thewalrus25 on Jan 8, 2011 14:19:18 GMT -5
he did in the 90's on The Roller. There are times like I'm Outta Time where he sounds like he did in the BHN days. One of the best studio vocal jobs of the last 10 years for him if you ask me.
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Post by wonderplan on Jan 8, 2011 14:46:03 GMT -5
he did in the 90's on The Roller. There are times like I'm Outta Time where he sounds like he did in the BHN days. One of the best studio vocal jobs of the last 10 years for him if you ask me. agreed Liam sounds fantastic!
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Post by gdforever on Jan 8, 2011 14:46:06 GMT -5
Nah. It's a pretty good vocal. Don't think it stands up to 90's Liam's voice though.
There are still those annoying nasally patches which weren't there in the 90's...but @ least he isn't biting off the lines @ the end.
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Post by putthisin ® on Jan 8, 2011 14:46:50 GMT -5
He's actually singing in the first verses, isn't he?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Jan 8, 2011 17:33:52 GMT -5
He does sound good on it, but it's definitely a mid-range type song. Not exactly a song to show off the high range or anything.
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Post by shedboy on Jan 8, 2011 17:54:20 GMT -5
Sorry but i really don't get the praise Liam is getting right now in terms of his singing - is it just me?? I think he sounds pretty bad from what we have heard of Beady Eye so far. He sounds good on a couple of tracks from the clips (e.g. for anyone) but apart from that i think he sounds very nasally and kermitty. To compare his voice to the 90's or even early 00 is beyond me. Like someone else has said aswell, the songs are not high so his range is not being tested much. Just my thoughts anyway.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 8, 2011 18:01:57 GMT -5
We can only judge Liam vocals in a live setting, to be honest.
DOYS tour was an improvement on the DBTT, let's hope the trend continues.
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Post by futchduck on Jan 8, 2011 18:25:25 GMT -5
is it me or does he sounds a lot like that bloke from the charlatans ?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Jan 8, 2011 18:38:20 GMT -5
Sorry but i really don't get the praise Liam is getting right now in terms of his singing - is it just me?? I think he sounds pretty bad from what we have heard of Beady Eye so far. He sounds good on a couple of tracks from the clips (e.g. for anyone) but apart from that i think he sounds very nasally and kermitty. To compare his voice to the 90's or even early 00 is beyond me. Like someone else has said aswell, the songs are not high so his range is not being tested much. Just my thoughts anyway. Well, I think everyone's expectations are REALLY lowered when it comes to Liam's voice nowadays. People don't want to hear that, but it's the truth. When people say he sounds "top" or "mega" it basically means he sounds good compared to his really bad days, but by no means better than he used to. Or even better than a lot of other professional singers in their mid to late 30s. I still like Liam's voice, but it's the truth.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 8, 2011 18:48:51 GMT -5
Sorry but i really don't get the praise Liam is getting right now in terms of his singing - is it just me?? I think he sounds pretty bad from what we have heard of Beady Eye so far. He sounds good on a couple of tracks from the clips (e.g. for anyone) but apart from that i think he sounds very nasally and kermitty. To compare his voice to the 90's or even early 00 is beyond me. Like someone else has said aswell, the songs are not high so his range is not being tested much. Just my thoughts anyway. Well, I think everyone's expectations are REALLY lowered when it comes to Liam's voice nowadays. People don't want to hear that, but it's the truth. When people say he sounds "top" or "mega" it basically means he sounds good compared to his really bad days, but by no means better than he used to. Or even better than a lot of other professional singers in their mid to late 30s. I still like Liam's voice, but it's the truth. You may or may not have a point. But I do suggest you listen again to the iTunes 2009 gig. On CS, Liam has sounded as good as ever during this decade on that one - and there's several other tunes were he has amazing vocals, too. The issue with Liam's voice will always rage on. While I do admit it's deteriorated through the years, I do think part of the problem was that the band was playing too loudly. Musically, the band has improved so much over the years - so have Noel's vocals, of course - but perhaps Liam shouting worsens his vocals even more. When he sings acoustically, he tends to be spot on (See GGTI, etc from 2005). His vocals may have worsened, but I don't think Kermit - that was ever to present in 2005 - is the normality. What bothers me the most is why he pulls back from the mic now. There's no reason for that, and it makes it sound even worse.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Jan 8, 2011 18:56:08 GMT -5
I have heard the iTunes gig. He sounded good, yes, but again, the standards are so lowered. There are singers out there who are better than that every single night. And I'm talking about hard touring bands as well. The garbled, gruff barking was just embarrassing. Any time a singer's voice is that bad he should just cancel the show and rest. I was astonished at how poor Liam's voice was when I saw them on the DBTT tour.
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Post by bradhorse on Jan 8, 2011 19:05:19 GMT -5
I have heard the iTunes gig. He sounded good, yes, but again, the standards are so lowered. There are singers out there who are better than that every single night. And I'm talking about hard touring bands as well. The garbled, gruff barking was just embarrassing. Any time a singer's voice is that bad he should just cancel the show and rest. I was astonished at how poor Liam's voice was when I saw them on the DBTT tour. Totally agree with you mate. When Liam's voice is hailed as good, it's always good by comparisonIn the mid-to-late 90's he had a phenomenal voice, truely phenomenal in every sense of the word. He had range, rasp, energy, style and most of all a beautiful unique tone to his voice that he tried his very best to hide most of the time. These days his voice is all but gone live, there are very few other singers in big bands who get away with such bombscare performances... hell even McCartney and Gilmour/Waters etc can still hold a tune better than Liam. Recent turns in the studio such as Eyeball Tickler, Shock of the Lightning and even Four Letter Word show that he still has this great voice just itching to get through but he is too stubborn and set in his ways to just grow up and get his voice sorted for an album. I think also at some point either Gem, Andy or a producer need to tell him to stop singing through his fucking nose. As much as it's a trademark it's a bad one
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Post by gdforever on Jan 8, 2011 19:07:32 GMT -5
I agree with NL4E about the biting off of his phrases live. Very annoying habit he has developed. Hope he cuts that out.
I think that he hasn't sounds that great in any of the released tunes. He hasn't sounded that bad either. Just middling. Thing to like about each vocal for me but also things not to like. Particularly how nasally he is sometimes...you can hear it on all the tunes so far. I don't think he really sounds like Kermit on them so far though so that seems to be going a bit far. That was more of a live thing anyways.
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Post by importantlyidle on Jan 8, 2011 19:12:14 GMT -5
I have heard the iTunes gig. He sounded good, yes, but again, the standards are so lowered. There are singers out there who are better than that every single night. And I'm talking about hard touring bands as well. The garbled, gruff barking was just embarrassing. Any time a singer's voice is that bad he should just cancel the show and rest. I was astonished at how poor Liam's voice was when I saw them on the DBTT tour. He sounded a lot better in the early part of that tour, then it went shit round about the Electric Prom gig... started sounding decent again round Copenhagen, then in Brazil and Argentina it was by far the best he sounded for years...sadly went a bit off again by the time they got back over here.
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Post by gdforever on Jan 8, 2011 19:25:56 GMT -5
Anyone remember that quote from a few years back where Liam said that he didn't like his voice on the first albums. He said that he liked his voice better now.
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jan 8, 2011 19:35:44 GMT -5
Anyone remember that quote from a few years back where Liam said that he didn't like his voice on the first albums. He said that he liked his voice better now. Definitely Maybe is chock full of weak vocals though. Cigarettes and Alcohol, Rock and Roll Star for two. If he'd have recorded them in 1997, they'd have sounded brutal, but in a good way. There's a sliding scale of Liam's voice, from the boyish in the 92/92 demos, through to tougher about 1995. Headshrinker was the first one I think. Just tore into that one. That was the effects of the heavy touring through 1994.
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Post by bradhorse on Jan 8, 2011 19:50:29 GMT -5
Anyone remember that quote from a few years back where Liam said that he didn't like his voice on the first albums. He said that he liked his voice better now. Definitely Maybe is chock full of weak vocals though. Cigarettes and Alcohol, Rock and Roll Star for two. If he'd have recorded them in 1997, they'd have sounded brutal, but in a good way. There's a sliding scale of Liam's voice, from the boyish in the 92/92 demos, through to tougher about 1995. Headshrinker was the first one I think. Just tore into that one. That was the effects of the heavy touring through 1994. Definitely Maybe doesn't have a weak vocal on it, absolutely nowhere.
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Post by Rolo on Jan 8, 2011 20:12:13 GMT -5
I agree with Mono on the part where if Liam would of recorded Cigs and alcohol and RnRS in 97 they would of sounded even better!
As far as this topic goes, Liam's vocals so far to me have sounded top notch, he seems to sound even better than DOYS to me on the four songs we have heard so far, The Roller being the best one, sounds like a vocal from around the SOTSOG era but with a bit of a changed style which I love.
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Post by mkoasis on Jan 8, 2011 20:26:51 GMT -5
I think a lot of it also depends on what song he's singing...an old DM standard or TBWTL or IOT for example. And if its an acoustic number like Songbird or full band arena rocker like C&A, which always makes him sound much worse than he is.
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Post by revolver909 on Jan 8, 2011 20:46:20 GMT -5
his vocals are about a certain feeling only he can give i like his vocals and always have
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Post by worldsoutro on Jan 8, 2011 21:36:49 GMT -5
Anyone remember that quote from a few years back where Liam said that he didn't like his voice on the first albums. He said that he liked his voice better now. Definitely Maybe is chock full of weak vocals though. Cigarettes and Alcohol, Rock and Roll Star for two. If he'd have recorded them in 1997, they'd have sounded brutal, but in a good way. There's a sliding scale of Liam's voice, from the boyish in the 92/92 demos, through to tougher about 1995. Headshrinker was the first one I think. Just tore into that one. That was the effects of the heavy touring through 1994. Agreed as long as he recorded it far far away from the BHN session...awful voice...
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Post by spaneli on Jan 8, 2011 23:47:22 GMT -5
I think a lot of it also depends on what song he's singing...an old DM standard or TBWTL or IOT for example. And if its an acoustic number like Songbird or full band arena rocker like C&A, which always makes him sound much worse than he is. It does. Liam's best vocals now, always seem to come wit songs like Wonderwall and CS. Songs where he can give himself a good pace and not have to jump quickly to the next line of verse. His weakest stuff is RnRs, because thats an example of a vocal where there's a lot of quick line of verse changes. During songs like that, he really cant catch his breath and pace himself. I think Liam's voice has sounded alright. I really love his vocal on The Roller. Its the only thing that I like on the Roller. He does have his nasally spots, but its still a really good and clean vocal. His vocal takes that song from being a slightly below average slow boring ballad, to be a slightly above average song. His voice is best in the choruses. His Roller performance is one of his 3 best of the last 10 years. And also, like I said before Liam does best when he can pace himself and the Roller is def. track in which he can do that in.
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Post by oasis6 on Jan 9, 2011 0:30:25 GMT -5
his vocals are about a certain feeling only he can give i like his vocals and always have This. His voice hooked me in in 1995 as a 7 year old and its been like that since.
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Post by psufan43 on Jan 9, 2011 0:43:28 GMT -5
his voice will never sound the same as it did mid 90's up until the bhn tour or the recording of giants. he established him self as one of the great lead singers of all time. all the smoking and drinking of course took a toll on his voice not to mention the constant touring they used do, plus we all know how he used to strain his voice with his stance and mic. bottom line is he still sounds good on record and is better then almost any rock singer out there now. its hard to compare his voice to mid 90's cause your tryng to compare one of the greatest voices of all time. i think from the sonds and clips so far he sounds just as most post giants stuff baring scyho which i still think is one of his finest efforts.
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Post by sultrysummer on Jan 9, 2011 1:27:31 GMT -5
Anyone remember that quote from a few years back where Liam said that he didn't like his voice on the first albums. He said that he liked his voice better now. The quote seems to be from The Sun but maybe Liam really said those things... Liam Gallagher as claimed he thinks he sounds like Tweetie-Pie on some of Oasis's early records. The singer admitted recently that he "hates" his voice on the early material, including Live Forever and Whatever.
Although fans clearly loved the vocals on what were some of Oasis's biggest hits, Liam is not so sure. He told the Sun: "I hate my voice on all them records. I sound like fucking Tweetie Bird. I mean, they were good at the time, it's the best I could do, but I prefer it the way it is now."
He added that he thinks Slide Away and Supersonic were "all right", but certain songs were poor. "I was young. I hate that vocal on Whatever. I despise it. It's shit," he said.
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